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Edits on Polyvinyl chloride page

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October 2021

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus. I explained to you that literally the meaning in english is One Supreme reality which has already been defined in the article. Om Maker is a non-literal meaning, therefore it cannot be considered literal. Nor was the source helpful with literal meaning.

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Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. MehmoodS (talk) 23:18, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Citation

You said "Two or three (citations) may be preferred for more controversial material or as a way of preventing linkrot for online sources."

This is fine but only if their is dispute on spurious grounds or against consensus with the first source among other editors which you had by Merriam Websters. Otherwise there is no need to clutter with extra sources. So that is why I mentioned that it becomes overkill, looks untidy and can be cause of edit warring like policy states that "One cause of "citation overkill" is edit warring". That is why one source is sufficient enough. Hope that helps. MehmoodS (talk) 03:36, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

I'll remove the citations from HDS and Encyclopedia of Sikh Religion and keep the Merriam citation up Suthasianhistorian8 (talk) 04:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

requested move

Hi, I just wanted to give you the heads up that I've had to remove the request you placed at requested moves because unfortunately you put it in the wrong place and it wasn't signed. You're welcome to place a request again, but may sure you copy the model line and put it in the section with all the other requests, instead of replacing the model line with your request. You can recover the text you wrote from the page's history, so you don't need to type it all again. Let me know if you need help. Dr. Vogel (talk) 12:59, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion 2

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Misplaced Pages's policy on edit warring. MehmoodS (talk) 18:12, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

November 2021

I apologize for my mistake

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{{unblock reviewed |1=If you look at the history, you'll see that I first reached out to MehmoodS on his talk page as well as the talk page on the article, after which he continued to revert my edits. He doesn't seem to understand the difference between literal translation and meaning, Onkar does not translate to God, it translates to Om Maker. I then went on to explain that the exposition of the phrase Ik Onkar as the monotheistic unity of God within my section before he revereted them. But to claim that Onkar TRANSLATES to God is incorrect. Like Al Rahman translates to "The Merciful" and is a synonym for God within Islamic tradition, hence a distinction between literal translation and meaning. Mehmood is incorrectly saying that Onkar translates to God in Punjabi. It is a synonym for God, it does not literally translate to God. I do apologize for not immediately going to talk page, which I will do in the future from now on. Whenever I have a disagreement with someone else, I will immediately discus it with them on the talk page of the article, and not revert/add anything to the article. I apologize. Also I will not add or delete anything on the "Ik Onkar" page and it will remain as is |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1=If you look at the history, you'll see that I first reached out to MehmoodS on his talk page as well as the talk page on the article, after which he continued to revert my edits. He doesn't seem to understand the difference between literal translation and meaning, Onkar does not translate to God, it translates to Om Maker. I then went on to explain that the exposition of the phrase Ik Onkar as the monotheistic unity of God within my section before he revereted them. But to claim that Onkar TRANSLATES to God is incorrect. Like Al Rahman translates to "The Merciful" and is a synonym for God within Islamic tradition, hence a distinction between literal translation and meaning. Mehmood is incorrectly saying that Onkar translates to God in Punjabi. It is a synonym for God, it does not literally translate to God. I do apologize for not immediately going to talk page, which I will do in the future from now on. Whenever I have a disagreement with someone else, I will immediately discus it with them on the talk page of the article, and not revert/add anything to the article. I apologize. Also I will not add or delete anything on the "Ik Onkar" page and it will remain as is |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

• Your promise to leave the article "as is" is not much of a promise given that the current version of the article is yours.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:34, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

No sir, it is actually MehmoodS' version of the article, the point of contention was the claim "that Onkar translates to Punjabi", it is currently like that on the article, nothing else was a point of contention. His additions to the section are currently there, and remained there while we were talking on the talk page. I also assure you that I have fully educated myself on edit warring/3rr rules on wikipedia, and it will not happen again. I will immediately try to discuss with another editor on the talk page and try to reach a consensus. Suthasianhistorian8 (talk) 19:37, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

You're correct, my apologies. One more question: what will you do if you can't reach a consensus?--Bbb23 (talk) 20:05, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I will first try to get a third person involved if the dispute is between me and someone else, if the third person agreed with the opposite party, I would leave it at that and concede and edit or revert the page. If he sides with me, and the other party doesn't accept it, I would post it on a dispute resolution noticeboard such as neutral pov noticeboard, or reliable source pov baord, I would accept whatever the decision is of the admins or the wikipedia community.Suthasianhistorian8 (talk) 20:11, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

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