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e.g. Marlowe's Barabas, Shakespeare's Shylock pr Dickens's Fagin. Quite virulent antisemitic Stereotypes. - Is there a dedicated article about this already? Or shouldn't it be drafted? --] (]) 21:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Why is is is entry ignoring a key dynamic at the heart of the anti-Semitism debate in the UK?
There is no balance in this article to counter the false assumption made in it that arguments against actions by the government or military of Israel, or against Zionism, are automatically anti-Semitic. In this way the article is one sided and pushes a false narrative that can in itself be seen as anti-Semitic since it employs the very same tactic used by extremist anti-Semites who would blame all Jews for the actions of Israel or extreme Zionists. That assumption should not appear as a flat assumption in this article - it should be stated that in the debate about anti-Semitism in the UK, one side is trying to push that assumption and is being criticised for doing so as both an attempt to shut down criticism of Israel and extreme Zionism and as a dangerous use of the same conflation employed by extreme anti-Semites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.43.87.35 (talk • contribs) 07:54, May 11, 2018 (UTC)
Battle of Cable Street
The short section mentioning the Battle of Cable Street seems inconsistent with the Wiki page on the event.
It says
"The Board of Deputies of British Jews denounced the march as anti-semitic, and urged Jews to stay away".
and
"The BUF marchers were dispersed towards Hyde Park instead while the anti-fascists rioted with police".
(Although elsewhere I seem to recall reading that the BUF just decided to go home rather than being 'dispersed')
So it seems the resistance to Moseley and his fascists wasn't in any significant way led by Jews as implied in the text, nor was the BUF really 'repulsed' by anyone, since the actual 'battle' was between the objectors and the police who were trying to restore order.
Perhaps a small correction might be made to clarify things.
Cassandra. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassandrathesceptic (talk • contribs) 14:29, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
I've changed it to make it clear that the battle was with the police, not the fascists, who agreed to abandon their march. The defence was clearly a collaborative exercise between a number of groups; I've omitted any claim to leadership by any one group. Jontel (talk) 15:06, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
(Blogpost) Comparison of the Met Police and CST antisemitic crime figures for 2014
Mira Bar-Hillel - #Antisemitism: The Myths and the Maths, 29 August 2015. ← ZScarpia 21:58, 27 July 2019 (UTC)
Removal of text and sources
A new editor has removed text ("However, a number of academic studies have heavily disputed this assertion") and relevant sources (Kuper, R., 2020. A Reply to ‘Labour and Antisemitism: A Crisis Misunderstood’. The Political Quarterly, 91(4), pp.832-838; Gidley, B., McGeever, B. and Feldman, D., 2020. Labour and Antisemitism: a crisis misunderstood. The Political Quarterly, 91(2), pp.413-421) following the sentence "Contemporary antisemitism is also prevalent on the left"), with the justification that the sources are "specific to the Labour Party". Well, of course they are - any response to claims of antisemitism in the Labour Party is bound to relate to the Labour Party. After I reverted this edit, the editor re-reverted, saying in the edit summary "I don't give a pass on left wing antisemitism". The removal of this text and the sources which support it means that the article gives a misleading impression of academic support for the assertion, and combined with the edit summary suggests that the editor is here to right great wrongs, rather than to contribute constructively. Should the text cited above and supporting sources be included in this article? RolandR (talk) 15:55, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Then you are synthasising, while Labour is left of center, they are not all of them left. wp:v is clear, a source must explicitly support your text, not infer it. I can see their objection.Slatersteven (talk) 16:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- In that case, so are the sources supporting the text remaining. Currently, different standards appear to be applied to sources supporting the assertion of "left antisemitism" than to those disputing this. RolandR (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- No, feel free to remove them if they only cover the labour party.Slatersteven (talk) 17:20, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- In that case, so are the sources supporting the text remaining. Currently, different standards appear to be applied to sources supporting the assertion of "left antisemitism" than to those disputing this. RolandR (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Antisemitism in literature
e.g. Marlowe's Barabas, Shakespeare's Shylock pr Dickens's Fagin. Quite virulent antisemitic Stereotypes. - Is there a dedicated article about this already? Or shouldn't it be drafted? --2001:9E8:257:CD00:1DCC:F85E:ABA3:47AE (talk) 21:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
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