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October 2021

Hello, I'm FlightTime Phone. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, In Through the Out Door, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. - FlightTime Phone (open channel) 17:47, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I'm using a source that is already in the article - the Dave Lewis book "Led Zeppelin: A Celebration". It's in the list of sources at the bottom. The author is the one who states that the album went to #1 in the countries I added. Interestingly, he does not list Canada as one of those countries but I assume that's from another source maybe? So I didn't remove it.

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Edit Summary

Hey! So about your edit summary on Meidiawest*Con; It's not entirely true. ALthough it may as well be, looking through your edit I only found 2 sources in that entire section you removed, and they both appear to be unreliable primary sources. So I haven't undone your edit since it makes a lot of sense. THe majority of the section was unsourced except for the very end. ― Blaze The Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:48, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Yes, and I also noticed that the very end, the part that was sourced? That is also repeated in the History section, and I left it there.

Alright cool. Also, please remember to sign on talk pages with ~~~~. ― Blaze The Wolf_{Blaze Wolf#6545} 15:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Thank you !!!! Fred Zepelin (talk) 16:24, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

November 2021

Hello, I'm CuriousGolden. I noticed that you recently removed content from Donavon Warren without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Misplaced Pages with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. — curiousGolden 14:36, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Yes please see your talk page where I addressed this. Fred Zepelin (talk) 16:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for nabbing this we at Anti spam are grateful whenever UPE is nabbed. Keep up the good Job. Celestina007 (talk) 19:32, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I stumbled onto that because of another editor, really - Kuru spotted his paid editing on the movie Wheels and I kind of started exploring from that point. Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:43, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Kuru, Celestina007 - I nominated the Wheels (2014 film) article for deletion because I think the evidence is overwhelming that it was created by either a paid editor or the producer himself, it's not notable as zero reliable sources have reported on it, and the latest heavy editing to it was done by the Ugochukwu75 account. So I think the article was there purely as a promotional tool for the producer/writer/director of the movie. Fred Zepelin (talk) 22:34, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Kuru, Celestina007, Fred Zepelin - Hello all. I received an email from Misplaced Pages after all of these years regarding a deletion, I had a brain injury and Wiki was just too challenging for me. But now I am back and honestly, I am excited about getting back into it. Hopefully, I can handle it. I really got discouraged last time. Thank you Fred Zepelin for your time on cleaning it up. It seems like some of the sources were out of date and deleted. Some I don't understand, but I am learning. I have referenced articles from AFI, IndieWire, Turner Classic Movies and Movie Insider. It also appears like there is a lot going on with this page. Really any help or mentorship would be greatly appriciated. I am going to get to work on some other pages in the meantime. Thank you for all your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Film Fanatical10069 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I don't know why you're even bothering. It's so painfully obvious that you're the same editor I burst out laughing when I read this. Appreciate the overdone politeness, though. I suppose that's the smarter tactic to take if you're still trying to collect your money for your paid editing gigs. Fred Zepelin (talk) 03:42, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Behavioural evidence

You provided sufficient behavioural evidence at Misplaced Pages:Sockpuppet investigations/Ugochukwu75 to justify a checkuser. But the checkuser result was "unrelated". If you still think that the user you reported is a sockpuppet, then try comparing editing styles, ways of wording things, mistakes that they both make in their English, etc. If you can find similarities between the user you suspect and Ugochukwu75/Binaza then provide diffs showing that both the suspected user and Ugochukwu75/Binaza behave the same way. The place to put this evidence is the SPI.-- Toddy1 (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy1: I did add all that evidence in the SPI. In the comments. Is it in the wrong place? Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:25, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy1: Just read this comment from @Celestina007:, they sum it up for me, and it's put better than I could put it. Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:28, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

It is in the right place.

What I was trying to say was:

• more behavioural evidence would be useful (and tried to describe what kinds I think are worth looking for).
• that if you can find more behavioural evidence, it goes in the SPI.

Do you have a diff showing Film Fanatical10069 referring to his/her sister?

-- Toddy1 (talk) 19:31, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy1: Here and here. I personally think that's small evidence in the face of the mountain of evidence elsewhere. Keep in mind - there is no sister. When Ugochukwu75 was first caught socking with the Bianaza account, he didn't mention a sister. That came later, when he admitted to socking AND paid editing. And by the way, the paid editing is what embroiled me here in the first place. The newly-awakened sleeper is desperately trying to save the Wheels article, a non-notable film, the same way Ugochukwu75 was. He voted Keep in the original deletion discussion in 2017 (along with another dormant sock account, Кость Лінивець)... and ask yourself why. And why this amazing timing. And why, despite him being able to create articles with tons of publicity/promo references back in 2015 on his first day editing, he's now pretending to be new at everything. Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:57, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

@Toddy1: Check these diffs out:

Film Fanatic: "Thank you for your long and detailed explanation. It seems well thought out and I appreciate your time."

Ugochukwu75: "Thank you so much for taking your time to give a detailed explanation."

Just more behavioral evidence. That only took me 5 minutes. I'm sure I'll find more. Fred Zepelin (talk) 20:32, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Good catch. Well done.-- Toddy1 (talk) 21:03, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

Well... I'm really glad it came out the way it did. At first I regretted posting the notice on the latest sock's talk page about my deletion nomination (which turned out was invalid anyway, I didn't know you couldn't speedy-delete an article that had already been nominated and survived), even though I was just following the advice on the deletion help page, because I thought, in hindsight, it gave him that cover story about a brain injury and getting an email to spur him back into Misplaced Pages, which was ridiculous but seemed to be taken seriously by at least some other editors. Looking back now, it did expose another sock account, so I guess that's good. I'm sure he has many more. Fred Zepelin (talk) 01:14, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

December 2021

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:Film Fanatical10069, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.-- Toddy1 (talk) 22:08, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I think you know full well that I didn't edit your comment, nor did I remove anything. I added my own comment in a relevant place. Nevertheless, since you seem intent on harassing me every time I introduce more evidence of Fanatic's sockpuppetry, I moved my comment to after your signature, in a overabundance of courtesy. I would apologize for my mistake, but you and I both know that you're on the side of the sockmaster in this situation, and I am most decidedly on the side of making sure he never edits again. I think I've made myself clear. Fred Zepelin (talk) 00:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Fred Zepelin, if you post at Film Fanatical10069's Talk page again, I will block you.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)