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== Edit warring / tag-bombing / restoring challenged content ==

Please don't restore challenged content, as you did at the article ]. Your edit restored baseless tags without either talk-page discussion or any basis (there is zero reason, for example, to think that any COI issue is presented). Your edit also made unexplained deletions. Finally, your edit also added new content with problems. First, the content ] (like "Critics..." and "Some have described..."). Second, the new content had significant citation issues - you added 2 sentences with 6 citations, but it is completely unclear which citation is supposed to support which content. Third, there's also ] considerations involved with broad claims ("underhanded, meddling in internal affairs, paternalistic, and imperialist"). Given the challenge, ].

I explained all this in my edit summary, but you failed to engage on the article talk page, and instead immediately reverted to reinstate your entire edit. That is not consistent with encyclopedia policy and is also personally discourteous. Please don't do that again. ]<sup>]</sup> 15:00, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Neutrality}} You do not own the content of the Misplaced Pages page. Also, flagging issues clearly present in the article is not tag bombing. It is very clear from the sources section that the article is heavily dependent on primary sources and secondary sources closely associated with the subject. The content I deleted was text entirely dependent on primary sources that repeated NED talking points in order to downplay criticism. Each of the phrases "underhanded", "meddling", "paternalistic" and "imperialist" I added was ''verbatim'' in one or more of the sources I cited. If you wish to restore the bullet-pointed list of criticisms with counterclaims by NED, find some secondary sources. The content I added had far more sourcing than the content you insist on returning. (It should not be that hard to check a few pages of each book I cited) As for so-called Weasal wording, which is subjective, I would hardly consider "critics say" and such to be weasly in a section about criticism of said subject. As for COI, yes, I do think some editors of the page have a COI, given the intense amount of effort made into keeping a particular yet flawed version of said page. Also, I do not need permission from you, or anyone else, to add useful information supported by secondary sources to a page or point out an obvious problem with heavy dependence on primary sources.--] (]) 16:15, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

::{{u|PlanespotterA320}}: You don't need "permission," but you do need to follow ], so if you want to bring the issue to the talk page, I will happy engage there. ]<sup>]</sup> 16:20, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Neutrality}}I already brought up the issue on the talkpage. Also, I do NOT need to get a vote of opinion from a group of editors in order to state the obvious. Consensus or not, the article is heavily dependent on primary sources, and has various other problems in terms of content. Silence is a form of consensus, and unless there is an official referendum on the talkpage that officially votes against any mention of NED support of various pro-US governments in Latin America (both democratic and not), I will add said text with the support of secondary sources, both in English and Spanish. Your opinion is not more powerful than mine just because you are an administrator. The English version of the NED article is one of the worst (compared to the more balanced versions on other language wikis with more broad coverage of organization). It is ludicrious to assume that there is consensus for mentioning NED activities in Ukraine, the Arab Spring, and Western Europe, and China but against mentioning their activities everywhere else.--] (]) 16:30, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

== Canvassing and statements about other editors ==

Two points:

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Second, I would appreciate it if you did not make statements like "Seems like one admin is exerting page ownership." For one thing, I've never invoked my admin status at the NED article, nor do I plan to. For another, please don't make false statements, like the suggestion that I am "exerting page ownership." I challenged your initial edit, and then I went on to , to include new content from some of the very same sources that you first used, with better context, a fairer representation of what those sources say, and proper attribution (and without some of the very poor sources, like ], that were in your edit). In other words, I worked in good faith to both accommodate your concerns and my concerns. That is how the editing process is supposed to work (see, e.g. ]). Thanks. ]<sup>]</sup> 22:40, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Neutrality}} First of all, it was NOT "quintessential canvassing". It was not en-mass, it was open, and the message was neutral (asking for advice - maybe should I have found different sources, left a detailed edit summary, started off with a section header, or should your behavior be brought up with admins?). Please refrain from stalking my edits. Just because you have not invoked admin status at the article does not change the fact that you are an admin and are in a position of power over other editors and should be held to a high standard of behavior (that you haven't exactly upheld, by initially insisting on restoring content dependent on primary sources). I suggest that you refrain from knee-jerk reverting good-faith additions of useful information and removal of poorly sourced content in the future. Furthermore I also ask that you refrain spamming my talkpage with superfluous complaints and "warnings" and instead engage in more productive work (perhaps some copyright cleanup for a change?).--] (]) 23:14, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

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== Would you kindly... ==
I wonder what the motivation of Your edits. And in other articles (for example, Vasily Chuikov, Konstantin Gerchik and others) Will you also" edit " the texts? Please do not make any more edits to the article Arkady Ostashev. Hope for your understanding. ] (]) 16:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|Mixrunya}} My motivation is to enforce standards for basic english and wikiformatting. It is incredibly obvious that you copy-pasted google translated text into the mainspace without any typo of copyediting (as evidenced by the many instances of "A. I. Ostasheva" appearing in the article. It is also standard to use dmy dates for these types of articles and to not have award icons. You are clearly unfamiliar with the practices of English Misplaced Pages, so I must order you to refrain from any further significant editing activities. Failure to do so, such as reverting to the unedited machine-translated text, will result in administrator intervention.--] (]) 16:50, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
::Hailey-Likely, you think you're right, but you're not. I wrote this and other articles independently, I have a direct relationship to the topic and I really hope that my copyright will be respected regardless of the ownership of the 💕. I hope For your decency and ability to return the article to its original appearance. ] (]) 17:45, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
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== Flag of Syria ==

As has been discussed many times on the article talk page, removing the rebel flag should not follow immediately and directly from military victories and defeats, but rather from changes in the diplomatic situation. ] (]) 15:16, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
:{{ping|AnonMoos}} I brought up the diplomatic situation on the talkpage. As I've said, just because a government isn't 100% recognized by every state doesn't mean that equal footing should be given between it and a non-existant self-proclaiming government. ~20 countries have formal or informal relations with the rebel "gov" (some hostile negotion, not supportive diplomatic recognition), while the SAA is recognized and has positive relations with dozens more. Just because a few Global North countries don't recognize a defacto gov doesn't mean it is on equal footing with a ragtag group of disorganized rebels fighting each other that could hardly be called a government. In other news, Kosovo and Israel are not 100% recognized, but this nonsense isn't happening in the articles about their flags--] (]) 15:22, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Horse Eye&#39;s Back}} Two reverts is not an editwar. And prematuraly removing problem tags isn't good.--] (]) 03:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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== Self-immolation list ==

You're deleting other datas on the list just to put accidents as self-immolations. ] (]) 06:02, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

You don't even look at the sources, all are propaganda sites. ] (]) 06:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
:{{ping|LeticiaLL}} You have not sourced your assertion that those incidents on Norwuz were accidents. The claim that it was self-immolation is sourced, your claim that it was an accident isn't. There is a plethora of academic literature supporting the notion it was self-immolation. Now, get off my talkpage and stop pushing your cheap Turkish propaganda.--] (]) 12:56, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

I'm not even Turkish. ] (]) 14:04, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
::I don't care. Get off my talkpage.--] (]) 15:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello, hola PlanespotterA320, it´s already explicit in the article and in the cathegories that Rosales' hypothesis isn´t the standard, that's the interesting side of it. Deleting a so big part of the article makes the effort to translate it of JMabel ends in nothing. It seems an extreme decission, it may be discussed if you want but maybe we don´t have time for it. This user is going to undo the last change in Jurate Rosales' article. It´s nothing personal.] (]) 20:04, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
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:{{ping|Syphenta}} The article you cited notes that his birthplace was in the Russian Empire at the time and the place in question is part of present day Georgia. It does not do what you are trying to do and say he was born in Georgia before it existed. You are obviously a new editor and are clearly struggling with the basic formatting requirements of wikipedia. Please refrain from other major editing until otherwise, (])--] (]) 13:44, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

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{{unblock reviewed|reason=I did not have much opportunity to write in the admin noticeboard discussion since I was in class all morning. (Please read my comments in a <nowiki><!--- --></nowiki> note here I'm just too embarrassed to publish it prominently. <!---In my defense I was really drunk last night (hit with a pretty bad hangover this morning as evidenced by my lack of edits or even replies to the thread) and, as evidenced by my edits, made a series of edits that were obviously not my best to put it mildly. --> I cannot help but note it is quite ironic that I am being blocked for my "genocide denialist" notes about an ''ongoing event'' (meaning we lack the ability to judge it well by looking at post-event sources and consensus and view long-term trends) that are largely on talkpages and edit summaries while many an editor has denied the genocidal nature of events where genocidal intent is far more obvious (being accompanied by a population plummet, apartheid-like laws, derecognition as an ethnic group, etc). I would also like to point out that the vast majority of my work in the realm of minority and CIS subjects is indisputably productive and adds to the wiki (one editwar over a hyphen does not negate years of work researching, writing, expanding, and publishing a plethora of biographies on prominent peoples of national minorities, which I cannot finish from under a block.) Did I go too far editing some of the Xinjiang articles? Perhaps. Was I in a sleep-deprived rage that the situation in Xinjiang, envied by heavily marginalized (especially unrecognized and exiled peoples) is dubbed "genocide"? Yeah. However, most of my edits (which are over 20,000) remain to be objective improvements to the state of the wiki. Coverage of Eastern bloc aviation remains pretty bad and was absolutely abysmal before I joined wikipedia. Blocking me isn't going to help improve any of that. New Xinjiang skeptics will come and go until sufficient times passes to view these events through a historical lens, but I ''highly'' doubt anyone will bother to write the articles for Ishembai Abdraimov, Viktor Kolyadin, or Midat Selimov in English anytime soon or expand the stubs I just published (with intention of expanding them later this month, just wanting to make the wikilink not red) if I don't.--] (]) 21:07, 15 February 2022 (UTC)|decline=There is no way you are going to be unblocked to continue to edit about that topic. If that is all you are interested in doing, this is the end of the line. Accepting a topic ban from that topic is a must, and more than likely no unblock will be considered for at least six months, see ]. I am declining your request. ] (]) 11:08, 16 February 2022 (UTC)}}

{{unblock reviewed |1=In case it wasn't clear I am accepting of a topic ban for Xinjiang and am NOT asking for an unblock to edit that topic. I'll admit that I haven't been very diplomatic about my opinions here having very irate that the use of the g-word is treated as gospel in Xinjiang matters but treated as a controversial matter in far more dire events, and have no desire to continue editing in that shitstorm. But an indef ban stopping me from improving and revising the articles I've created, creating new articles, editing my sandbox, and expanding stubs on completely different topics isn't going to improve Misplaced Pages's content deficiencies in the many niche areas that I am almost single-handedly responsible for improving. I have to say that I am VERY concerned about the very real risk of an incompetent editor copy-pasting machine-translated text (]) into one of the many stub articles I've started off but not finished yet I will not even have the opportunity to improve. I have many VERY long to-do lists , , and over 100 stubs to expand. And that's not even counting for use in articles in numerous wikis, including English Misplaced Pages (meaning I certainly will find more PD photos to be added to articles in English Misplaced Pages but as long as I'm fully blocked I will be unable to add them to articles). Other note: it is worth noting that since English Misplaced Pages is one of the most commonly translated from wikis, and MANY of my articles have since been translated on other wikis complete with attribution via a "Translated page" tag, depriving me of the ability to edit and expand the article's I've written as well as create new ones not only harms English Misplaced Pages but the many other wikis that look to the content I work hard to create on English Misplaced Pages as a go-to source to start off their translated articles.--] (]) 14:50, 16 February 2022 (UTC) |decline = Given the discussion over at ], I believe any admin who unblocked you in the next six months would have their adminship revoked. On that basis, I decline your unblock request. I think your best bet is to go six months and then apply under ]. At that point, you'll need to suggest a topic ban, as you did here (though frankly, you may want to consider a substantially broader topic ban), and also address your belligerence, as this was a critical factor in your block. I'll warn you, I don't think I've '''ever''' seen someone who engaged in genocide denial unblocked. The Misplaced Pages community takes a very dim view of that. ] (]) 11:34, 17 February 2022 (UTC)}}
:{{ping|Yamla}} If genocide denial (or in this case, current-event based hesitancy to use the g-word because things can obviously get way worse ergo using it now is very premature) is grounds for an indef block...I think that will be news to a LOT of editors of other wikis who engage in blatant genocide apologetics of far clearer historic genocides (whose point isn't "There's no net population drop or derecognition as an ethnic group, so let's not use the g-word until then because if/when that happens nobody will realize the gravity of it" but "Yes, there was a huge population drop, but they deserved it/not enough were killed/assimilated"). Heck, First Nations genocide apologists still dominate the mainspace of American history articles. You may be interested to know that in the case of a genocide I have become wikipedia's subject matter go-to person on (the Surgun), the g-word wasn't even used in the first decade after a population plummet and the total ethnic cleansing from the peninsula, but only started being used by the activists in the 1960's after the notorious Ukaz 493 was made public and the confusion about the meaning died down, after which they realized they were officially not seen as a distinct ethnic group anymore and supposed to transform/assimilate into another to fit that perception. I would also like to point out that in the discussion (which I did not have the opportunity to participate in and respond to for most of due to being in class), there was hardly a strong consensus for a total block, even the nominator himself favored a topic ban, the total block seemed to be more the one admin's personal whim than a ruling out of a strong consensus. As for my beligerence on other topics, I'll admit to taking part in the occasional editwar over something very petty like a hyphen, and I'll certainly try to be less so, but that doesn't change the fact that my contributions in developing content related to national minority history has been overwhelmingly beneficial to the wiki - from expanding the biographies of numerous people (previously stubs) from ] to ] to publishing articles previously only available in other languages, such as ] and ]. And that doesn't even include all the articles I've written related to the Crimean Tatar movement (many of them unfinished, like the ] article, currently only a stub, which is why I am begging for an unblock) that have yet to be translated to other languages (but I hope that if/when they are, I will have gotten to expand/finish them first). If you are refering to a broader topic ban in mind as in China or Sino-American split related articles, I can understand that, but a ban on all national minority editing would be going WAAAYYY too far, and would impair my ability to make many productive and objectively beneficial edits to numerous stub articles tagged for improvement. I would also like to express concern about the potential for some of the articles on my watchlist that I have heavily contributed to being subject to vandalism/bad edits that I will not be able to revert unless I were to stoop low enough to sockpuppeting (after all, Amet-khan Sultan's article is protected on Russian wikipedia due to being the subject of nonstop attacks from anti-Tatar nationalists). And many Night Witches articles (which I am largely responsible for expanding and creating) have been subject to unproductive edits (albeit many of them in good faith, simply with poor grammar machine-translated content added)--] (]) 14:43, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
::No need to ping me, so please don't. You aren't trying to convince me, you are trying to convince the next admin who reviews your next unblock request. --] (]) 16:43, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Yamla}} Then would you AT LEAST protect a few articles that are high-risk of vandalism when I am away (Yes I saw that note about pinging, but pages need an admin to protect them): ] (He strongly identified as Crimean Tatar, not Dagestani, having serious daddy issues after all, but paternalist revisionists in various language wikis have repeatedly tried to disrespect his right to self-identification and painted him as a Dagestani or even a Lak "contaminated" by Crimean Tatar blood); ] - has had some very colorful (unsourced of course) edits by anti-Tatar nationalists; and ] (large sections removed unilaterally).--] (]) 17:02, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
::::No. '''Don't ping me again'''. And be warned, continued personal attacks will count against any further unblock request from you. --] (]) 17:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
:::::I did not say anything about you personally in that note. I merely indicated that article protection requires admin decision (and you happen to be an admin, ergo you are capable of protecting high-risk articles). As for the rest of the comment, I was merely describing the nature of vandalism that I have witnessed to those articles (both on enwiki and others). That has nothing to do with you and I was not insinuating that you were the ip editor involved in those cases (which I highly doubt is done by one single person). This is NOT personal. This is about the greater good of wikipedia.--] (]) 17:10, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
{{unblock reviewed |1=I still have a LOT of work to do here in wikipedia. I will not edit any Xinjiang-related articles, or even so much as editwar over a hypen. But there are edits that I NEED to make, such as in: * ] - currently a stub, which I created with the intention of expanding later * ] - same case. I even have some of the body paragraphs in progress in my sandbox * ] - only got started, didn't get a chance to add much * ] - rather famous researcher * ] ** ] ] ** ] (] * ] - just saw that this article on my to-do list is written, albeit VERY poorly (just look at the notable members list - some people are listed as surname-givenname-patronymic, others by givenname-patronymic-surname, with no consistency about it) * ] - never got around to expanding this one * ] - same thing * ] - been meaning to do this article for YEARS * cleanup ] - remove interlanguage links for ones with articles, change link names of ones where link is of wrong person of similar name * ] - stub I missed in the twice Heroes list * ] - borderline stub, but needs to be MUCH longer * Soviet Korean war pilots (bought a book JUST FOR this kind of article and haven't gotten around to citing it much yet): ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] *Photographers: ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] *Snipers ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ** ] ...and many, many more redlinked, stub, and badly written (machine-translation style) articles. Even the editor who NOMINATED me for the discussion (which I barely got to participate in) acknowledged that I do good work in this area. It isn't exactly a secret that there are many parts of wikipedia that will fall apart without my edit support (getting mass filled with unedited machine-translated nonsense, whilst I won't even have an opportunity to do fixes). I am even open to a very limited unblock just limited to my userpage and sandboxes so that I can provide resources (userpage updating the list of books and publications I have and am willing to do "page checks" for users research, and my sandbox for drafting of articles/article expansions for uncontroversial users to vet and republish).--] (]) 22:14, 18 February 2022 (UTC) |decline = Does not address the reason for the block, and no one needs to edit Misplaced Pages. ] ] 13:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)}}
:{{ping|Canterbury Tail}} Did you not see the part about "I will not edit any Xinjiang-related articles, or even so much as editwar over a hypen" and "I am even open to a very limited unblock" because you wrote that I did "not address the reason for the block" (very contrary to all that I have written on my talkpage acknowledging that the edits that I made that led to the block were not good.)--] (]) 17:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
::No I didn't miss it. You said what you wouldn't do, but you didn't actually address your edits and behaviour, why they are not acceptable, that lead to the institution of the block. You just said you would avoid a specific area and attempted to bargain which ignores and glosses over the actual reason for the block. For your behaviour, concerns from many members of the community, and the specific reasons for your block you will need to specifically address that. Just trying to bargain by saying you'll avoid something will not get you unblocked. You need to address all of your behavioural issues, show the community that you understand why they are not acceptable, and specify what you will do and how you will change to ensure that this kind of behaviour never happens again. ] ] 17:22, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
:::So you sent me an email. I will not be responding to that email and nothing you have said in it will be taken into consideration here (if I were to take it into consideration you should be outright banned and have all talk and email privileges removed for the contents of it as its clear you don't see Misplaced Pages as a collaborative project.) Unless you're willing to discuss it properly and make your case here nothing is going to be gained from sending such emails. And if you don't want the contents of emails to be made public and discussed, you shouldn't send them. ] ] 19:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

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I give up. If anyone vandalizes my articles I'll send the anti-vandalism squad after them.