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| :It's not a ]. But if disagree with me, you're welcome to propose adding back using the article's talk page. ] (]) 23:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC) | :It's not a ]. But if disagree with me, you're welcome to propose adding back using the article's talk page. ] (]) 23:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC) | ||
| == Ship pronouns == | |||
| According to ], "each article should be internally consistent and employ one or the other exclusively." The Chicago Manual of Style (16th edition), as well as the style books of the Associated Press and the New York Times, recommend using "it" or "its" to refer to ships. The first pronominal reference to the ship in the article, "It was the world's fastest submarine," uses "it" rather than "she". I am improving the article's consistency. | |||
| ] (]) 09:34, 1 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| :Other manuals of style are irrelevant. Since the majority of the article used female pronouns, that ought to be what is used in the article. ] (]) 09:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
| ::Please don't disengage from this conversation, dismissing me as "not listening anyway". As a matter of consistency, I think it's best to use the "it" pronouns both of those articles started with. I changed the articles to have consistent pronouns usage, in accordance with the policy you referenced. I believe you may be the one who is not listening or is biased in your apparent preference for "she", which is now considered anachronistic by most publishers. Sure, the style guides of other publishers don't dictate how Misplaced Pages writes, but the fact that most major publishers now appear to use "it" pronouns for ships is indicative of what may be the most encyclopedic tone and the most informative for readers. Converting entire articles into "she" pronouns is inappropriate, and I believe other editors will agree with me, which is why these discussions shouldn't be taken down or dismissed. You can move it from your user page to the respective talk pages, if you'd like. ] (]) 09:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
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Ronald Acuña Jr
Just saw that you rolled back the World Series champion thing from the Acuña Jr article. Is there an established rule of thumb on that? Does the player have to be on the playoff roster? In Acuña's case, he's on the 40 man roster and is inactive due to injury. He'll have a ring for sure as a member of the team. I'm just curious. Thanks! - Nemov (talk) 19:07, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure, I just know the Baseball project members usually revert it, like User:Yankees10 and User:Muboshgu. BilCat (talk) 19:27, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like it was covered here Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 34#WS champion in infobox. Player has to be on the postseason roster. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 21:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Nemov, yep, that's it, otherwise it's a slippery slope to including everyone who had a cup of coffee during the season. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:40, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Looks like it was covered here Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 34#WS champion in infobox. Player has to be on the postseason roster. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 21:06, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
Hey...
...just curious, is Talk:Her Majesty's Naval Service on your watchlist? I noticed you had a similar discussion a week or so ago... Cheers - wolf 06:17, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, I noticed that too. Not sure if its BKFIP or not, but I think its regular question-asker. Best to DNFT, probably. BilCat (talk) 06:33, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
- Well, I'm hoping my last post brought the thread to an end, but he might have a case of 'must-have-last-word-ism', so... we'll see. Cheers - wolf 09:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
British army strength
I thought the reference I used was relevant as it shows the averages for each century.
Is that not good enough for a reference? 82.19.42.13 (talk) 21:58, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
- It's not a reliable source. But if disagree with me, you're welcome to propose adding back using the article's talk page. BilCat (talk) 23:01, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Ship pronouns
According to WP:SHIPPRONOUN, "each article should be internally consistent and employ one or the other exclusively." The Chicago Manual of Style (16th edition), as well as the style books of the Associated Press and the New York Times, recommend using "it" or "its" to refer to ships. The first pronominal reference to the ship in the article, "It was the world's fastest submarine," uses "it" rather than "she". I am improving the article's consistency. Talib1101 (talk) 09:34, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Other manuals of style are irrelevant. Since the majority of the article used female pronouns, that ought to be what is used in the article. BilCat (talk) 09:37, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- Please don't disengage from this conversation, dismissing me as "not listening anyway". As a matter of consistency, I think it's best to use the "it" pronouns both of those articles started with. I changed the articles to have consistent pronouns usage, in accordance with the policy you referenced. I believe you may be the one who is not listening or is biased in your apparent preference for "she", which is now considered anachronistic by most publishers. Sure, the style guides of other publishers don't dictate how Misplaced Pages writes, but the fact that most major publishers now appear to use "it" pronouns for ships is indicative of what may be the most encyclopedic tone and the most informative for readers. Converting entire articles into "she" pronouns is inappropriate, and I believe other editors will agree with me, which is why these discussions shouldn't be taken down or dismissed. You can move it from your user page to the respective talk pages, if you'd like. Talib1101 (talk) 09:48, 1 March 2022 (UTC)