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:: Would such a saying "tallest in western hemisphere" be often a reference to those skyscrapers or any other structures in the Americas? ] (]) 08:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC) | :: Would such a saying "tallest in western hemisphere" be often a reference to those skyscrapers or any other structures in the Americas? ] (]) 08:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
:::Colloquially, yes. While most of London, for example, is definitely in the Western hemisphere, "Western Hemisphere" is generally used in contexts where one wants to refer to the Americas. Since the prime meridian bisects Europe, people generally don't describe Europe in terms of hemispheres. But this isn't terribly scientific or precise. ] (]) 01:54, 30 December 2021 (UTC) | :::Colloquially, yes. While most of London, for example, is definitely in the Western hemisphere, "Western Hemisphere" is generally used in contexts where one wants to refer to the Americas. Since the prime meridian bisects Europe, people generally don't describe Europe in terms of hemispheres. But this isn't terribly scientific or precise. ] (]) 01:54, 30 December 2021 (UTC) | ||
== Ping An Finance Center == | |||
In the photo gallery location is shown as Guangdong. That is the province name. The city is Shenzhen and should be shown as such. At present it is rather like saying that the Willis Tower is in Illinois (a state) rather than in Chicago. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 18:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)</span> | |||
== India's tallest tower under construction isn't listed == | |||
World One will be the tallest tower in India. At 442m tall, it should be listed under Buildings under construction but it isn't. Please add the building <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 07:00, 17 January 2019 (UTC)</span> | |||
==List of tallest skyscrapers== | |||
It isn't correct "" because Telecom towers are buildings but they aren't in the list. It's needed to move It. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 11:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)</span> |
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Buildings under construction
Dubai Creek Tower is missing in "Buildings under construction"
https://www.guiding-architects.net/dubai-creek-tower-the-worlds-tallest-building/ MustafaRaza 09:12, 17 October 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrqd9 (talk • contribs)
- The Dubai Creek Tower is mentioned in the article List of tallest structures, which also describes the difference between 'buildings' (this article) and 'towers'. --Kallichore (talk) 14:55, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
Tallest building by continent (Africa)
Iconic tower in Cairo has topped out and it´s the tallest skyscraper in Africa (385 m / 1,263 ft). ¿Could someone update this sections? Thanks in advance https://dailynewsegypt.com/2021/06/19/china-built-tallest-skyscraper-in-africa-topped-out-in-egypts-new-capital/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.122.90.112 (talk) 16:29, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
Buildling
Which the Country 119.30.32.166 (talk) 04:59, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
Hong Kong, Macau, and other similar cases
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This is a follow-up to /Archive 4#Content dispute on "Hong Kong" vs. "Hong Kong, China" /Archive 5#Hong Kong and Macau, /Archive 5#Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2020 and /Archive 2#Hong Kong, China. Please fix the list according to the established consensus all along unless there is new consensus here superseding the existing, and repeated, conclusion. 219.76.24.215 (talk) 08:22, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Not only is it not clear what you want changed, but the only thing the links appear to make clear is that there ISN'T a clear consensus. PianoDan (talk) 20:57, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
- To replace China to Hong Kong or Macau for Hong Kong and Macau entries. 219.76.24.198 (talk) 10:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}}
template. OK. Having read carefully through all the linked threads, I can detect nothing even vaguely resembling a consensus. Absent that, an edit request is not the appropriate format for this change, as it is not likely to be uncontroversial. PianoDan (talk) 03:02, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- If even these couldn't be detected then may I know what you would expect? This isn't something controversial at all except among some Chinese or pro-Chinese editors. Thanks. 219.76.24.219 (talk) 11:54, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- This is controversial as the debate and article edits have been going on for years. Accusations about being Chinese or being pro-Chinese are irrelevant. I am neither and have repeatedly changed flags to China. It is the country and that's it. No other sub-national flags are used so neither Hong Kong nor Macau should be used. There are many special status sub-national (non-sovereign state) entities across the world. It is more logical, neutral and understandable for a lay reader to only have national flags included. Robynthehode (talk) 16:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- By doing so you are coincidentally sharing the same position with Beijing, which go so far to have fined foreign MNCs for showing what they called "non-countries" alongside "countries" according to their definition. This way of presentation, though just coincidental, may appear to be "more logical, neutral and understandable" to you but this is unlikely the established practice on Misplaced Pages and many other sources elsewhere. In entries of sport events or membership lists of international organisations on Misplaced Pages and elsewhere it is the common rule to list these countries alongside sovereign states. In other areas that's the rule too as long as these countries take care of those areas largely on their own or are nevertheless managed separately from those matters in their respective sovereign states. Encyclopaedias and all those publications aren't just for lay readers anyway. 219.76.24.207 (talk) 07:41, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
- For others reading this discussion, (as it seems unlikely that it will sway the anonymous contributor who made the initial request) I'll point out that there is an official Misplaced Pages policy on use of flags in articles: WP:SOVEREIGNFLAG. Hong Kong and Macau are not sovereign states , and therefore do not meet WP criteria for flag inclusion in lists in most cases. PianoDan (talk) 16:06, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- This is controversial as the debate and article edits have been going on for years. Accusations about being Chinese or being pro-Chinese are irrelevant. I am neither and have repeatedly changed flags to China. It is the country and that's it. No other sub-national flags are used so neither Hong Kong nor Macau should be used. There are many special status sub-national (non-sovereign state) entities across the world. It is more logical, neutral and understandable for a lay reader to only have national flags included. Robynthehode (talk) 16:01, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
- In practice flags of countries are routinely used, from lists of countries by HDI, GDP, forex reserves, life expectancy, to lists of visa requirements by country of any particular passports, and medal tables in Olympics or Commonwealth games. What ought to be excluded are, e.g., states, provinces, laenders, cantons, départements, and so on and so forth. 219.76.24.197 (talk) 13:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- And the many tables and lists about the Covid-19 disease. 219.76.24.193 (talk) 07:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- In practice flags of countries are routinely used, from lists of countries by HDI, GDP, forex reserves, life expectancy, to lists of visa requirements by country of any particular passports, and medal tables in Olympics or Commonwealth games. What ought to be excluded are, e.g., states, provinces, laenders, cantons, départements, and so on and so forth. 219.76.24.197 (talk) 13:12, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- No need to open this endless discussion again and again. Let's stick with the current consensus.--Jklamo (talk) 17:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
- Agree. This list is currently a lone exception. Let's stick with the consensus on Misplaced Pages (which is in line with the general practice in publications in general). 219.76.24.193 (talk) 07:33, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Deryck Chan, JohnBlackburne, Ks0stm, Nick2253, Reenem, Timsdad, Pyl, and EaglesFanInTampa: FYI. 219.76.24.194 (talk) 09:38, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- @StPeteRays: Thanks. 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Aquillion, BilledMammal, and Firefangledfeathers: FYI. 219.76.24.208 (talk) 13:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that editors have been canvassed to this discussion. Firefangledfeathers 16:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. Editors who have taken part in past discussions in the same topic or a very similar topic and who appear not to have gone inactive or retired are pinged, regardless of their stances. 219.76.24.195 (talk) 11:08, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Fongyun, Citobun, Mathglot, Jojalozzo, Mjroots, 1233, and Sanmosa: Thank you. 219.76.24.195 (talk) 11:08, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
- — Note: An editor has expressed a concern that editors have been canvassed to this discussion. Firefangledfeathers 16:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Aquillion, BilledMammal, and Firefangledfeathers: FYI. 219.76.24.208 (talk) 13:10, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Sorry but I agree with the consensus. We should stick with the flag of China to make it simpler for everyone. Hong Kong isn't a separate nation.--RM (Be my friend) 10:45, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- No worries it's important to listen to many people and take into consideration many different views. But the word "country/ies" certainly isn't about "separate nation(s)". 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- If you read across many different topics on Misplaced Pages you would probably find out countries which are sovereign states are in almost all cases listed on their own (unless that's something about very specific topics like the list of sovereign states). 219.76.24.216 (talk) 03:05, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- No worries it's important to listen to many people and take into consideration many different views. But the word "country/ies" certainly isn't about "separate nation(s)". 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- @StPeteRays: Thanks. 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Deryck Chan, JohnBlackburne, Ks0stm, Nick2253, Reenem, Timsdad, Pyl, and EaglesFanInTampa: FYI. 219.76.24.194 (talk) 09:38, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
- Some had suggested in the past keeping the word "city" for one of the columns, but to replace "country" with "location" for the next column. We may alternatively explore options like the one below.
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- 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see that changing the title from "Location" to "Country" actually makes any difference - if the administrative unit in that list is sovereign states for everything else, then it should be the sovereign state for buildings in Hong Kong and Macao as well for consistency. Frankly, I don't understand your assertion that the word "country" doesn't refer to "separate nations". Those are literally synonyms. PianoDan (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Cos they aren't. Apart from sovereign states there are countries like Bermuda, Curaçao, French Polynesia, Greenland, Puerto Rico. Sovereign states are a subset of countries. 219.76.24.216 (talk) 03:00, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see that changing the title from "Location" to "Country" actually makes any difference - if the administrative unit in that list is sovereign states for everything else, then it should be the sovereign state for buildings in Hong Kong and Macao as well for consistency. Frankly, I don't understand your assertion that the word "country" doesn't refer to "separate nations". Those are literally synonyms. PianoDan (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- 219.76.24.214 (talk) 13:52, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
- If you read many older materials (or have lived long enough) colonies are always regarded as something covered by the meaning of the word "countries". It's so happened that most of the remaining colonies are too insignificant in terms of area and population, and economically, and there are too few of them. 219.76.24.209 (talk) 12:41, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Logic behind "western" hemisphere
There's a building listed as "tallest in western henisphere" What's the logic behind that definition? Planet Earth rotates on a ~vertical axis so it makes sense to divide it that way from the poles. But where's the dividing line to separate "east" from "west" if it rotates continuosly that way? 5.171.237.82 (talk) 21:07, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- While it is, of course, arbitrary, the dividing line is the prime meridian, and the corresponding meridian at 180 degrees E/W. See also Hemispheres of Earth. PianoDan (talk) 21:10, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
- Would such a saying "tallest in western hemisphere" be often a reference to those skyscrapers or any other structures in the Americas? 219.76.24.207 (talk) 08:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
- Colloquially, yes. While most of London, for example, is definitely in the Western hemisphere, "Western Hemisphere" is generally used in contexts where one wants to refer to the Americas. Since the prime meridian bisects Europe, people generally don't describe Europe in terms of hemispheres. But this isn't terribly scientific or precise. PianoDan (talk) 01:54, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
- Would such a saying "tallest in western hemisphere" be often a reference to those skyscrapers or any other structures in the Americas? 219.76.24.207 (talk) 08:10, 26 December 2021 (UTC)
Ping An Finance Center
In the photo gallery location is shown as Guangdong. That is the province name. The city is Shenzhen and should be shown as such. At present it is rather like saying that the Willis Tower is in Illinois (a state) rather than in Chicago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.241.43.53 (talk • contribs) 18:31, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
India's tallest tower under construction isn't listed
World One will be the tallest tower in India. At 442m tall, it should be listed under Buildings under construction but it isn't. Please add the building — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robynthehode (talk • contribs) 07:00, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
List of tallest skyscrapers
It isn't correct "List of tallest buildings" because Telecom towers are buildings but they aren't in the list. It's needed to move It. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Migang2g (talk • contribs) 11:53, 6 November 2019 (UTC)