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Please, don't do . ] has never had parishes in South-East Asia. By the way his surname in Chashin (Чашин), but not Chasin (Часин). ~ ] (]) 13:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
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:First, the background is a recap of the situation. I agree the AROCWE never had churches in SE Asia, but it still happened shortly before the PESEA was created and I thought it was a good idea to talk about it. Moreover, the background you put before to replace mine had no reference whatsoever. I agree that the current "Background" section fits the article better (especially since you put references this time). | |||
:Second, the ''title'' of primacy of the primate of the Patriarchal Exarchate in South-East Asia is "Archbishop of Singapore and South-East Asia",(https://mospat.ru/en/2018/12/28/news168464/) it is not "Metropolitan of Singapore and South-East Asia". That Sergius was elevated to a the rank of Metropolitan does not change that the title of the ''primate'' (i.e. regardless if it is Sergius) is "Archbishop of Singapore and South-East Asia" ] (]) 14:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:: The fact is that for a long time the Russian Orthodox Church did not create any structures on the territory of South-East Asia. This was done in order not to aggravate relations with the "Ecumenical" Patriarchate of Constantinople, which claims control over the entire Orthodox Diaspora. However, after the latter's invasion of Ukraine, Russian Orthodox Church broke of Eucharistic communication with Constantinople, and decided that it is free from any previous agreements with Constantinople. For this reason, 2 patriarchal exarchates were created now, but not earlier. ~ ] (]) 15:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:: On 26 Feburary 2019 the Internal regulation of the Patriarchal Exarchate of South-East Asia was adopted: "The supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Exarchate belongs to the Synod of the Patriarchal Exarchate in Southeast Asia (hereinafter referred to as the “Synod of the Exarchate”), headed by the '''Metropolitan''' of Singapore and Southeast Asia, the Patriarchal Exarch of South-East Asia (hereinafter “Exarch”), and consisting of diocesan bishops of the dioceses of the Exarchate. The vicar bishop of the Diocese of the Exarchate may, at the invitation of the Exarch, participate in the meeting of the Synod with the right of an advisory vote" (, ). ~ ] (]) 16:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::: You are right, I will change what has to be changed. ] (]) 16:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
::::{{Ping|Чръный человек}} Done. Thanks for your great help! ] (]) 17:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
Maybe it will be useful for you: "Мы всегда с уважением относились к Константинопольскому патриархату и закрывали глаза на его претензии на попечение над всеми православными диаспорами, - сказал отец Александр. - Но теперь этот подход имеет мало общего с действительностью, уже нет никаких оснований Константинопольскому патриархату считать себя правомочным брать под свое духовное покровительство вообще всю диаспору, как в Западной Европе, так и в других частях мира. Теперь приняты новые решения о том, как будет окормляться русскоязычная паства и те люди, которые относят себя к членам Русской православной церкви. Церковная жизнь для русских общин в Западной Европе теперь будет развиваться по другому руслу." (We have always respected the Patriarchate of Constantinople and turned a blind eye to its claims to the custody of all Orthodox diasporas, " father Alexander said. "- But now this approach has little in common with reality, there is no reason for the Patriarchate of Constantinople to consider itself competent to take under its spiritual protection the entire Diaspora, both in Western Europe and in other parts of the world. Now new decisions have been made on how the Russian-speaking flock and those people who consider themselves members of the Russian Orthodox Church will be pastoraly cared. Church life for Russian communities in Western Europe will now develop in a different direction.) ~ ] (]) 10:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC) | |||
:I have now added a small section about this in the articles of the PESEA, the DROCSP and the PEWE. ] (]) 11:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC) |
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- @Nicoljaus:Thank you for your kind words! Merry Christmas to you too! I hope you will have a good year and that fortune will be clement with you. Veverve (talk) 17:14, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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- @Calthinus: (I now see in December that I completly forgot to ping you back in January) Thanks a lot! I did not expect to get it for this article, given that it is Autocephaly of the Orthodox Church of Ukraine which made it Template:In the news recently. Thanks again! Veverve (talk) 17:43, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
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Patriarchal Exarchate in South-East Asia
Please, don't do such reverts. Archdiocese of Russian Orthodox churches in Western Europe has never had parishes in South-East Asia. By the way his surname in Chashin (Чашин), but not Chasin (Часин). ~ Чръный человек (talk) 13:54, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- Hello.
- First, the background is a recap of the situation. I agree the AROCWE never had churches in SE Asia, but it still happened shortly before the PESEA was created and I thought it was a good idea to talk about it. Moreover, the background you put before to replace mine had no reference whatsoever. I agree that the current "Background" section fits the article better (especially since you put references this time).
- Second, the title of primacy of the primate of the Patriarchal Exarchate in South-East Asia is "Archbishop of Singapore and South-East Asia",(https://mospat.ru/en/2018/12/28/news168464/) it is not "Metropolitan of Singapore and South-East Asia". That Sergius was elevated to a the rank of Metropolitan does not change that the title of the primate (i.e. regardless if it is Sergius) is "Archbishop of Singapore and South-East Asia" Veverve (talk) 14:58, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- The fact is that for a long time the Russian Orthodox Church did not create any structures on the territory of South-East Asia. This was done in order not to aggravate relations with the "Ecumenical" Patriarchate of Constantinople, which claims control over the entire Orthodox Diaspora. However, after the latter's invasion of Ukraine, Russian Orthodox Church broke of Eucharistic communication with Constantinople, and decided that it is free from any previous agreements with Constantinople. For this reason, 2 patriarchal exarchates were created now, but not earlier. ~ Чръный человек (talk) 15:59, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- On 26 Feburary 2019 the Internal regulation of the Patriarchal Exarchate of South-East Asia was adopted: "The supreme ecclesiastical authority in the Exarchate belongs to the Synod of the Patriarchal Exarchate in Southeast Asia (hereinafter referred to as the “Synod of the Exarchate”), headed by the Metropolitan of Singapore and Southeast Asia, the Patriarchal Exarch of South-East Asia (hereinafter “Exarch”), and consisting of diocesan bishops of the dioceses of the Exarchate. The vicar bishop of the Diocese of the Exarchate may, at the invitation of the Exarch, participate in the meeting of the Synod with the right of an advisory vote" (original, translation). ~ Чръный человек (talk) 16:10, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are right, I will change what has to be changed. Veverve (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- @Чръный человек: Done. Thanks for your great help! Veverve (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
- You are right, I will change what has to be changed. Veverve (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
Maybe it will be useful for you: "Мы всегда с уважением относились к Константинопольскому патриархату и закрывали глаза на его претензии на попечение над всеми православными диаспорами, - сказал отец Александр. - Но теперь этот подход имеет мало общего с действительностью, уже нет никаких оснований Константинопольскому патриархату считать себя правомочным брать под свое духовное покровительство вообще всю диаспору, как в Западной Европе, так и в других частях мира. Теперь приняты новые решения о том, как будет окормляться русскоязычная паства и те люди, которые относят себя к членам Русской православной церкви. Церковная жизнь для русских общин в Западной Европе теперь будет развиваться по другому руслу." (We have always respected the Patriarchate of Constantinople and turned a blind eye to its claims to the custody of all Orthodox diasporas, " father Alexander said. "- But now this approach has little in common with reality, there is no reason for the Patriarchate of Constantinople to consider itself competent to take under its spiritual protection the entire Diaspora, both in Western Europe and in other parts of the world. Now new decisions have been made on how the Russian-speaking flock and those people who consider themselves members of the Russian Orthodox Church will be pastoraly cared. Church life for Russian communities in Western Europe will now develop in a different direction.) ~ Чръный человек (talk) 10:31, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
- I have now added a small section about this in the articles of the PESEA, the DROCSP and the PEWE. Veverve (talk) 11:00, 4 March 2019 (UTC)