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It is very different to assert that Xi is implicitly following Han Fei's authoritarism (a fair statement, but asserted by an analyst) that to say that he is his favourite philosopher. It is very different to assert that Xi is implicitly following Han Fei's authoritarism (a fair statement, but asserted by an analyst) that to say that he is his favourite philosopher.

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young photo

there should be a photo of Xi as a youngster. I have seen some great photos online. Would be nice if one of the CPC editors here could release one into wikimedia and add it here. Thanks! Jtbobwaysf (talk) 10:07, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

commons:Category:Xi Jinping by year is a source of free photos.
Is 2008 young?
Xi Jinping with Dmitry Medvedev in China 23-24 May 2008-11
SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:24, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=xi+jinping+young returns some images.
—-SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:26, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
I was thinking of a photo of him in his young boy atire, but that might not yet be in commons. Certainly, 2008 is better than nothing just today. Misplaced Pages should be encyclopedic and my favorite thing about encyclopedia Britannica decades ago was looking at the interesting photos.

Image for his article

I have noticed that most of the edits involving in Xi's article includes the change of article image involving the images shown below. We need to establish a consensus on the main image of the article, because I see some minor disagreement on this. Should we choose First or Second? I request the editors to reach a conclusion on which should be the article image. Toadboy123 (talk) 14:56, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

  • First image (Current image) First image (Current image)
  • Second image Second image
@Toadboy123: Apologies for the late answer. Funny you should mention this, since a landmark decision for Vladimir Putin was made in March. Aside from MOS:LEADIMAGE, MOS:PORTRAIT, which recommends that the portrait be oriented towards the article text, should be considered. The two images you suggest look alright, but not amazing, as representations of the article's subject in my opinion. Both have a low resolution that I'm not a fan of personally. Image 1 has harsher lighting and looks away from the article but is clearer, while Image 2 has softer lighting and looks into the article but is lower-res.
Thus, based on a cursory search of Xi's Wikimedia category, I'd also like to add these images (they may or may not align with MOS:PORTRAIT, it's mostly a guideline after all). These images date from 2016:
  • New image (3) New image (3)
  • New image (4) New image (4)
  • New image (5) New image (5)
  • New image (6) New image (6)
  • New image (7) New image (7)
  • New image (8) New image (8)
My personal preference would go to the Second image (which has been a long-standing lead image for the article anyway) or New image (6) (for the latter, I'd adjust the crop to be slightly wider though). Ideally, the consensus here ought to apply to Xi's lead images in General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, President of the People's Republic of China, Chairman of the Central Military Commission (China), Paramount leader, Leader of the Chinese Communist Party and Template:CCP Politburo Standing Committee. However, I worry that this discussion may not receive enough attention. SuperWIKI (talk) 06:08, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Second image per MOS:PORTRAIT. I oppose First image (Current image) and New image (7) per SuperWIKI's harsher lighting argument. lol1VNIO (talk • contribs) 12:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
We need a photo of him as a boy. 2600:1700:151:ED0:21F5:72AA:3F2D:4639 (talk) 05:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
You mean for § Early life and education? I've found this one and this one; neither of them seem to be free content though. lol1VNIO (I made a mistake? talk to me • contribs) 12:04, 15 May 2022 (UTC); edited 12:10, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
New Image (6): Images 2 and 4 are too pixelated. The current image is not too terrible, but it has bad lighting along with the rest, except for Image 6. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rousillon (talkcontribs) 14:39, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
New Image (8?): This image fits the bill. There is a suitable background, and the subject is looking towards the centre. -- Ohc  14:20, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
Very droll, good sir. However, it would be appreciated if you have a choice from the actual selection. SuperWIKI (talk) 15:45, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
My preference is for images that make him look as much like a pug as possible, as such that means image 1 or 6; I kind of think images 2 and 4 are kind of cute as he looks a lot like WTP (which I simply cannot unsee). But in all seriousness, I think one without a distracting background would be best. New Image 2 or 8 fit this bill, but a real image 8 this time. -- Ohc  12:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

Wrong "favourite philosopher"

This article states that Xi Jinping's "favourite philosopher and political thinker is Han Fei" and put as a source a hit piece who talks about the authoritarianism of "China’s dictator, Xi Jinping", and says that pro-authoritarian Han Fei must be his favourite philosopher. That is not an academic source, and the article never gives any evidence (when or where Xi has stated that his favourite is Han Fei). Hong Kong free press is an openly anti Xi press (that's totally legit, I happen to agree in general with that spirit) but not a serious source.

It is very different to assert that Xi is implicitly following Han Fei's authoritarism (a fair statement, but asserted by an analyst) that to say that he is his favourite philosopher.

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