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Belagavi ಬೆಳಗಾವಿ

Belagavi is Karnatakas biggest district in area. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djsourabh (talk • contribs) 10:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Requested move 11 August 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved as there is a consensus that Belgaum is still the WP:COMMONNAME. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bradv 22:21, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Belgaum → Belagavi – Belgaum was one of the 12 cities in Karnataka that had its name changed to a more faithful romanization of the local language name in October 2014. Unlike Bangalore, the new name has caught on since the last RM and its usage significantly outstrips the old one. The "News" tab of Google, which significantly favours newer sources, gives about 50,000 hits for "Belgaum", but over 200,000 hits for "Belagavi". This is also reflected in NewsBank, where a search for "Belgaum" with a date range of 1 August 2016 till this day gives about 900 results, but over 8,000 results for "Belagavi". Both names rarely feature in news outside of India, with results for all the continents (with Asia's total excluding India's, of course) are in single or low double digits. As per our policy of giving extra weight to reliable sources published after the name change, the article's name should be changed to "Belagavi". —Gazoth (talk) 05:03, 11 August 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 16:18, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Comment. Worldwide Google Trends, and for what it's worth, Google Trends for India and for Karnataka. Belgaum outpaces Belagavi in this data. Dekimasuよ! 05:35, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

With the caveat that it is search data, not reliable sources as preferred by WP:COMMONNAME. —Gazoth (talk) 08:41, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose. Belgaum appears to still be the commonest name. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:11, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose. The proposal includes the statement:-
  The "News" tab of Google, which significantly favours newer sources, gives about 50,000 hits for "Belgaum", but over 200,000 hits for "Belagavi"

I tried my own search, using Google's news tab, in English, as it is the common name in English that we follow.
Belgaum gave 49,500 matches, roughly the 50,000 mentioned above, whereas Belgavi gave just 1,540 hits, nowhere near the 200,000 claimed above.
Therefore, by the proposers own chosen criteria, Belgaum is 32 times more "common" than Belgavi, so should remain. - Arjayay (talk) 14:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Arjayay: There was a typo in your search term. It is supposed to be "Belagavi", not "Belgavi". —Gazoth (talk) 17:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for pointing out my mistake so politely, Belagavi does, indeed, have 212,000 results - I have struck my objection accordingly, and apologise for my mistake - Arjayay (talk) 19:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• Support both are still used, but it seems to me that Belagavi is slightly more common overall, and much more common among official sources. Interestingly, I find several sources that refer to Belgaum and Bengaluru ( ). power~enwiki (π, ν) 18:49, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose the old name is still most common in International media. In ictu oculi (talk) 20:54, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose excluding most govt/official sources, almost all the other sources using the new name are not WP:RS. Making the current name most common name in WP:RS. —usernamekiran(talk) 19:17, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name

It may be time for us to revisit this move discussion. Six months ago, we determined that the old name for this town was still the common name. Since then, there have been many anonymous editors who tried to rename the article, and it is now protected to prevent disruption. The search results now are fairly evenly split between the two names, but the newer media articles all seem to prefer the name Belagavi. The Times of India, for example, uses the term Belagavi almost exclusively, using Belgaum generally to refer to the district or organization that still use the former name. Bradv🍁 12:50, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

It appears only anonymous users want to change the name. Any as of March 23, 2019, the name dispute is still continuing, but this time, changing the name throughout the article, so it's inconsistent with the title. I've reverted the changes as a reviewer consistent with consensus here, thereby inadvertantly entering into the content dispute. Blah! It's a legitimate dispute, nobody's right or wrong here. When I googled 'Belagavi', it returned results for 'Belgaum'! We need stability, and I'm voting to leave the name as is. Sbalfour (talk) 21:20, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Belagavi Pramod123123 (talk) 12:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2021

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Please change the name to Belagavi 2409:4071:2390:10B2:147C:1428:4960:70BE (talk) 05:47, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: see previous requested move Interesting Geek (talk) 07:09, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2022

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27.97.197.220 (talk) 13:54, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: as you have not requested a change.
Please request your change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:13, 15 February 2022 (UTC)

May 2022

@More eminence: Do not use unreliable sources in the article. Go through WP:RS and WP:RSN, About Belgaum is not a reliable source. Secondly, do not put unsourced content, third do not falsify content like you did by replacing pop figures for Kannada with Marathi. This kind of POV is not entertained in WIkpedia. Discuss your concerns here and seek WP:CONSENSUS per WP:BRD. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Those are not just unreliable source but if come and ask any old age members of the city they would reply you the same . I myself born and brought up in the city , so I know much better about it than any one. Look like you are against the marathi voice!? More eminence (talk) 13:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

And about the MES article, whats the problem with you about the ideology they follow? They can follow any ideology who are u to stop them ? . Listen my dear friend you might be an expert in Misplaced Pages but I am an resident of the city so please I know what am I editing. You people just don't want marathi to be recognised by people and spread hatret More eminence (talk) 13:58, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: Misplaced Pages articles are properties of Misplaced Pages and not of any organisation or a person. Thus, the articles should follow the policies and guidelines laid by Misplaced Pages, including WP:V, usage of reliable sources WP:RS, no original research and maintenance of WP:NPOV, among others. In other words you are not a reliable source. Secondly, maintain WP:CIVILITY when conversing, comments like "Look like you are against the marathi voice", "You people just don't want marathi to be recognised by people and spread hatret", will get you into trouble.

Third as for the Maharashtra Ekikaran Samiti, per WP:NOINDICSCRIPT, Indian scripts are not allowed in article leads and infoboxes, This specific article is not a special case. It is done in every India-related article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:19, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: This falsification of source data is exactly the thing that can get you blocked. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:20, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok about the script of MES why are you editing the ideology? They can follow any ideology they want Why are you editing it ?

More eminence (talk) 14:46, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: If the 'Karnataka occupied Maharashtra' part you added here can be sourced then re add that with a citation. I removed it since it was unsourced and looked very much POV. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:08, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Is this an sufficient source to do so ?? More eminence (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/will-incorporate-karnataka-occupied-areas-into-maharashtra-uddhav/article33592882.ece More eminence (talk) 17:43, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: Yeah you can use the above source to add the 'Karnataka occupied Maharashtra' part in Maharashtra Ekikaran Samiti I believe. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Ok thanks brother! Can you please tell my why was image of Sambaji Maharaj removed from belgaum post ? More eminence (talk) 01:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Is the Sambhaji statue located in Belgaum? The image description didn't say anything like that. Previously, I removed a similar image of a statue of Sambhaji located in another city. Only images of locations, buildings, statues, institutions from the city of Belgaum should be added. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes ! Dharmaveer Chatrapati Sambhaji Maharaj chowk is the most important circle in the city . It's located at the centre of city and its a pride of city , I had uploaded an other photo just because it was clear You can check on Google maps (Dharmaveer Sambhaji Maharaj Chowk VG55+P6F, Kirloskar Rd, Raviwar Peth, Belagavi, Karnataka 590001) And one photo need to be uploaded is about the most famous garden in Belgaum which is an important landmark of the city ! With your all permission can I add that photo to ? Please verify on maps (Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaja Garden RGX8+2W3, Kapileswar Colony, Shahapur, Belagavi, Karnataka 590003,) Please guide me sir More eminence (talk) 14:09, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: The image you posted before is a statue of Sambhaji in Pune. The full image is this. We need an image of Statue in the Dharamveer Chowk in Belgaum with proper licensing / free licensing.

As for the garden, please link it here in the discussion. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:34, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

File:Dharmaveer Chatrapati Sambaji Maharaj Chowk , Belagav.jpg Will this be the required image?

And about garden you said I really didn't get what you meant, so please can u tell me once more! More eminence (talk) 16:40, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

The image is More eminence (talk) 16:46, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence: I have added the Dharamveer Chowk image you provided in the infobox with proper formatting. As for the garden, I was asking whether you have that uploaded in commons? IF yes link it here like you did with above image. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:28, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

First I really thank you brother for uploading that image and would like to say sorry also for being rude to you ! You have helped me understand Misplaced Pages in a better way and would always remember it

So about the Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden The images are And Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page). More eminence (talk) 18:24, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Image <ref>File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum 4.jpg<\ref> More eminence (talk) 18:26, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

@More eminence:I've added this one, since the venue is a garden and should a bit of the surroundings per my opinion. Are these pictures clicked by you? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:33, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank you sir ! Sir can this article of Deccan Herald be suitable for the edit of cuisine of belgaum . Like in Belgaum north karnataka food is not common,it's a mixture of Maharashtra,goa and karnataka. Also puran poli , vad pav etc which I had edited but you reversed it , please guide me whether those edits can be remade using this source? <red>Template:Https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html<\ref> More eminence (talk) 02:43, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

Sry this one <ref>Template:Https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html<\ref> More eminence (talk) 02:44, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

//www.google.com/amp/s/www.deccanherald.com/amp/melange-cuisines-717547.html More eminence (talk) 02:45, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

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2. File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden belgaum 2.jpg
3. File:Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj garden 3.jpg

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