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:::I was about to finish it this weekend but I've already delayed it so much, so it's understandable. <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">] <sub>]</sub></span> 11:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC) | :::I was about to finish it this weekend but I've already delayed it so much, so it's understandable. <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">] <sub>]</sub></span> 11:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
::::I wanted to suggest that ], who has eight other reviews open, voluntarily release some of them. Only one of the eight has significant work done—three only have non-review comments, and four have been given copyvio checks, sometimes with a single comment or image checks. At the time of the previous discussion, they said {{tq|I'm fairly certain I can complete the rest before the end of the drive}}, but I can only see one that has been concluded, back on May 31, and two that have received a bit of attention in June: ] has since been taken over by Ovinus, and ] has been given an image check to go along with its copyvio check a month prior, leaving the vast bulk of its review still to be done. I would be happy to add the ones released to those listed needing new reviewers for the current backlog drive. Three—], ], and ]—would even be eligible for an extra half point because of the age of their nominations. ] (]) 16:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | ::::I wanted to suggest that ], who has eight other reviews open, voluntarily release some of them. Only one of the eight has significant work done—three only have non-review comments, and four have been given copyvio checks, sometimes with a single comment or image checks. At the time of the previous discussion, they said {{tq|I'm fairly certain I can complete the rest before the end of the drive}}, but I can only see one that has been concluded, back on May 31, and two that have received a bit of attention in June: ] has since been taken over by Ovinus, and ] has been given an image check to go along with its copyvio check a month prior, leaving the vast bulk of its review still to be done. I would be happy to add the ones released to those listed needing new reviewers for the current backlog drive. Three—], ], and ]—would even be eligible for an extra half point because of the age of their nominations. ] (]) 16:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | ||
:::::I'm open to releasing any of them. I'd suggest listing them for the drive, I'll try to finish them but if someone picks it up before I do so then that'll be that. <span style="background-color:#B2BEB5;padding:2px 12px 2px 12px;font-size:10px">] <sub>]</sub></span> 23:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
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New contribution-free reviewer bears watching
Fantoche Kugutsu (talk · contribs) has, as their first two contributions to anything, started two reviews at Talk:Kendari/GA1 and Talk:Double bubble theorem/GA1 (one of them is my nom). There's no actual content yet. And this is not against the rules, even the expanded rules of the June review drive. But, bearing WP:AGF in mind, I'm skeptical that someone who has done no editing at all (at least under this name) can be a competent GA reviewer. If this is going to be problematic, it would be good to figure it out sooner than later, so that the articles can be available for other review-drive reviewers (although mine, at least, is a recent nomination so it should not have priority in the drive). —David Eppstein (talk) 06:55, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
- Indeed. There seems to be a lot of new reviewers coming in due to the drive, which is perhaps nice for DYK, but not here. Could the coords put a note, perhaps even bolded, on the top of the backlog drive page that's just like, "If you are new to Misplaced Pages or unfamiliar with article writing, you are strongly encouraged to chime in on existing reviews by more-experienced editors, rather than beginning reviews yourself." Ultimately these newbie reviews are not only non-reviews, but also quite discouraging to reviewers—potentially long-term editors—who are upset by seeing their work voided. Ovinus (talk) 17:11, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- A week later, creating those two empty review pages remains this user's only two contributions. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- I have just marked both for speedy deletion; even if they should return, they aren't an appropriate reviewer. One of the two was nominated back in January, and thus quite likely to be chosen for review during the current backlog drive, but both should be made available. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- A week later, creating those two empty review pages remains this user's only two contributions. —David Eppstein (talk) 16:27, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Another bad review
Talk:Cyclotron/GA1 is not even a bad review, it's not a review. For physics topic as this, a lot can be said. Should probably be reverted, so admin is needed here. Artem.G (talk) 17:57, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
- David Eppstein maybe you can have a look? Artem.G (talk) 16:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- The review was pretty paltry compared to what I've been accustomed to, but I've been going over the article and haven't found any issues that would, I think, merit de-listing. The writing is as clear as can be expected for a physics topic, the sources are reliable and appear to have been used properly, etc. XOR'easter (talk) 18:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree that the article is not bad, but IMO such poor reviews make things unfair, when some articles got roasted for some minor problems and some just receive GA without any real review. Though ok, I wouldn't argue about it more, seems that Cyclotron is really ok. Artem.G (talk) 19:07, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- XOR'easter, nice to see you here again! Artem.G (talk) 19:08, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- The review was pretty paltry compared to what I've been accustomed to, but I've been going over the article and haven't found any issues that would, I think, merit de-listing. The writing is as clear as can be expected for a physics topic, the sources are reliable and appear to have been used properly, etc. XOR'easter (talk) 18:35, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
- I took a look at this for Template:Did you know nominations/Cyclotron. It is missing many citations required for DYK. If I were reviewing it for GA I would have also required them for that. I'm not sure they're egregious enough to re-open the review, nor to quick-fail the article if re-opened, though. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Script for closing
Hi! I've gotten Novem Linguae to do some work on a user script to help with GAN closures. There is only currently limited functionality, but it needs testing. If you are about to close a GAN, and are happy too, could you leave entries for Novem to close here. Lee Vilenski 09:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Novem Linguae: and @Lee Vilenski: the article Zombie pornography has passed GA review if you want to go ahead and test the script on it. Etriusus (Talk) 03:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
- Done. . Diffs for review, let me know if anyone sees anything problematic. Don't forget to add the article yourself to the appropriate section of WP:GA. –Novem Linguae (talk) 03:39, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
Requesting second reviewer
Please see this discussion. The reviewer Tayi Arajakate seems to be busy, so I am requesting that this reiew be taken up by someone else. Thanks, Kpddg 04:41, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- @Kpddg: I'll take it on. Ovinus (talk) 04:45, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you Kpddg 05:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- I was about to finish it this weekend but I've already delayed it so much, so it's understandable. Tayi Arajakate Talk 11:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- I wanted to suggest that Tayi Arajakate, who has eight other reviews open, voluntarily release some of them. Only one of the eight has significant work done—three only have non-review comments, and four have been given copyvio checks, sometimes with a single comment or image checks. At the time of the previous discussion, they said
I'm fairly certain I can complete the rest before the end of the drive
, but I can only see one that has been concluded, back on May 31, and two that have received a bit of attention in June: Bangalore has since been taken over by Ovinus, and Rosenkrieg has been given an image check to go along with its copyvio check a month prior, leaving the vast bulk of its review still to be done. I would be happy to add the ones released to those listed needing new reviewers for the current backlog drive. Three—Talk:Rosenkrieg/GA1, Talk:William Ketel/GA1, and Talk:John Ratcliff (bookbinder)/GA1—would even be eligible for an extra half point because of the age of their nominations. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:53, 17 June 2022 (UTC)- I'm open to releasing any of them. I'd suggest listing them for the drive, I'll try to finish them but if someone picks it up before I do so then that'll be that. Tayi Arajakate Talk 23:40, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
- I wanted to suggest that Tayi Arajakate, who has eight other reviews open, voluntarily release some of them. Only one of the eight has significant work done—three only have non-review comments, and four have been given copyvio checks, sometimes with a single comment or image checks. At the time of the previous discussion, they said
- I was about to finish it this weekend but I've already delayed it so much, so it's understandable. Tayi Arajakate Talk 11:23, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you Kpddg 05:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Deletion of my GAN
Hi! I accidentally started reviewing Talk:Paramylodon/GA1. Could somebody please delete it for me? Patachonica (talk) 13:19, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- Tagged. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 13:34, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- But then who's gonna review it after it's deleted? Patachonica (talk) 14:06, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
Anyone who wants to review it can, including you ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:13, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
- No, no they can't. They nominated it, they cannot also review it. Mr rnddude (talk) 15:10, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
GAN worked on by user that is not the nominator
Hello. I was wondering if it was alright what is happening at Talk:2022 Kentucky Derby/GA1. I started the GAN review on June 4th. During this time period, Jlvsclrk began replying to the comments on June 9th despite not being the nominator to this article. I placed the article on hold on June 9th after finishing the review. The user who nominated this article, GhostRiver has not left any comments between June 4th to June 9th, and has since been inactive.
Is it okay for Jlvsclrk to go through the review as GhostRiver is unavailable or would Jlvsclrk be considered a co-nominator? I have not received a reply from GhostRiver on Misplaced Pages:Discord to see if she is okay with Jlvsclrk working on the GAN or if Jlvsclrk could be a co-nominator. Also, if all of the comments are addressed by Jlvsclrk only, then who gets the credit for the GA if this article passes? Thanks! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
- Posting here rather than responding on Discord to maintain transparency among all parties. The reason I was inactive during the listed time period is mostly because I have been moving, which I informed some individuals but not all. I also typically do not start responding to comments left on my GANs until the review is placed on hold.
- My understanding is that there is no right or wrong when it comes to Jlvscirk responding to the comments. However, I have had no communication with them on the matter, and they have not pinged me to let me know that they were going to start addressing the listed comments. I do not want to get into WP:OWN territory by any means, but I am mildly irked that they went through the review without contacting me as the nominator, and I would like to do my own pass over the comments.
- With regards to the credit: at the end of the day, I was the one who did the labor-intensive work of bringing the article to GAN. If most of the comments were major (such as Talk:Beheading game/GA1, where the final article product was significantly different than what was nominated), then this would be a different story, but from my quick look-over (again, I have been moving and have not been at my laptop until tonight), it appears most of the edits are small tweaks to references and phrasing. — GhostRiver 03:00, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. There are parts of the GAN that have not been commented on if you wish to work through them (such as lead / infobox). Therefore, you'd be part of the GAN fixes as well. Pinging @Jlvsclrk: so they're aware of above as well. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- In short though, no, it doesn't matter who actually makes the changes, the GA review is about the article, not the nominator. Of course, that doesn't mean that you can just go to any open nom and fill in the changes... although, if anyone fancies fixing up all my noms, that wouldn't be against my rules Lee Vilenski 19:59, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reply. There are parts of the GAN that have not been commented on if you wish to work through them (such as lead / infobox). Therefore, you'd be part of the GAN fixes as well. Pinging @Jlvsclrk: so they're aware of above as well. MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:47, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
GANReviewTool
User:Novem Linguae/Scripts/GANReviewTool is ready for use. It automates the steps for passing or failing a GAN, including adding the GA to the appropriate section of WP:GA. Please consider installing the user script and trying it out. Please report any bugs or feature requests on one of my talk pages. Thanks. –Novem Linguae (talk) 10:35, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the tool, Novem Linguae, it works great! I used it twice now, no problems detected. Artem.G (talk) 16:59, 17 June 2022 (UTC)