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Section sizes Section size for Conservative Party (UK) (62 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 31,268 31,268 History 439 142,731 Origins 2,768 2,768 1867–1914: Conservatives and Unionists 4,592 4,592 First World War 1,980 1,980 1920–1945 2,086 2,086 1945–1975: Post-war consensus 81 8,115 Popular dissatisfaction 675 675 Modernising the party 5,332 5,332 1965–1975: Edward Heath 2,027 2,027 1975–1990: Margaret Thatcher 7,041 7,041 1990–1997: John Major 7,190 7,190 1997–2010: Political wilderness 6,772 6,772 2010–2024: Austerity, Brexit, and the pandemic 7,587 37,928 2010–2016: David Cameron 5,909 5,909 2016–2019: Theresa May 5,373 5,373 2019–2022: Boris Johnson 8,025 8,025 2022: Liz Truss 6,376 6,376 2022–2024: Rishi Sunak 4,658 4,658 Economic policy 3,813 3,813 Social policy 12,513 12,513 Foreign policy 11,669 11,669 Defence policy 5,070 5,070 Health and drug policy 3,426 3,426 Education and research 3,593 3,593 Family policy 3,274 3,274 Jobs and welfare policy 5,443 5,443 Energy and climate change policy 3,845 3,845 Justice, crime and security policy 1,622 1,622 Transport and infrastructure policy 4,743 4,743 European Union policy 2,574 2,574 Constitutional policy 2,235 2,235 Organisation 20 32,260 Party structure 2,970 2,970 Membership 5,336 5,336 Prospective parliamentary candidates 2,232 2,232 Young Conservatives 2,654 2,654 Conferences 252 252 Funding 4,855 11,204 Financial ties to Russian oligarchs 6,349 6,349 International organisations 3,121 3,121 Logo 4,471 4,471 Party factions 3,069 11,204 One-nation Conservatives 2,014 2,014 Free-market Conservatives 3,301 3,301 Traditionalist Conservatives 1,659 1,659 Relationships between the factions 1,161 1,161 Electoral performance and campaigns 2,050 20,661 UK general election results 18,611 18,611 Notes 1,075 1,075 Associated groups 106 2,798 Ideological groups 1,032 1,032 Interest groups 431 431 Think tanks 226 226 Alliances 467 467 Party structures 536 536 See also 409 409 Notes 74 74 References 33 33 Further reading 6,678 8,176 Historiography 1,498 1,498 External links 2,112 2,112 Total 252,801 252,801

Covid restrictions

I am so disappointed in your rules on this Virus, please consider the people that are Vulnerable and are frightened to go about their daily duties, l feel you not making more restrictions Means you are willing to risk our lives. I have been a conservative since l was eligible to vote, never again will l vote for your party.

Maria Cleaver — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.10.183.37 (talk) 21:12, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

This is like a whole new level of tweeting at the wrong celebrity. How do you find your way into a Wiki talk page and still not realise it's not an "official" page for the person you're addressing? Dyaluk08 (talk) 15:22, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Conservative Party (UK)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Buidhe (talk · contribs) 08:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this article is very far from meeting the GA criteria. There is significant unsourced content, and the content that is sourced relies far to heavily on news reports, when academic and historical analyses are available. (The issue of overuse of news sources as a POV issue for politics topics is discussed here). The length of this article is also an issue, because summary style is not employed and the party's recent history is given excessive space compared to past eras. Fixing these issues, realistically, would take weeks or months of work. (t · c) buidhe 08:50, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Centre-right?

I appreciate that the party is still considered centre-right, but there is no mention in the lead of the massive shift towards the right that the party has taken since 2010, and especially in the last two years. Why is this? Dyaluk08 (talk) 15:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Just realised this has been addressed above in the section #Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2021. I'll have a look into primary sources when I can. Dyaluk08 (talk) 15:24, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

I find it curious you think the party took a surge to the right since 2010 since they famously moved much closer to the centre under Cameron. — Czello 20:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm fairly sure that this has been discussed a dozen times already and that "center-right" is still considered to be appropriate. This seems to be a temporary shift, like in every other political party. It was more centrist under Cameron, although they have shifted back to the right during Johnson's leadership. Vacant0 (talk) 21:03, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

There is no reference to the party's ideological English Nationalism. This should be included in the InfoBox and in the intro.

See https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jul/04/conservatives.uk

https://nation.cymru/news/conservative-party-has-become-the-english-nationalist-party-says-former-welsh-mp/

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magazine/the-political-science-of-how-english-nationalism-is-becoming-entrenched

https://www.economist.com/britain/2021/03/20/the-disruptive-rise-of-english-nationalism

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/tory-talk-of-union-hides-soft-underbelly-of-english-nationalism-1.3025164

Marlarkey (talk) 21:50, 13 April 2022 (UTC)

Mayors and seats diagrams

Hi all. I think it would be better to separate 'regional' mayors and local authority mayors on the seats diagrams in the infobox, since they are very different positions. I've mocked up an improvement on the right. Let me know if you have any thoughts! I didn't include any references, but these can be added if necessary. I'll also link to this discussion on the Labour article. Thanks! FollowTheTortoise (talk) 19:08, 28 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done (with amendments). FollowTheTortoise (talk) 10:20, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

"Conservative Resident" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Conservate party are not "Centre" Right.

The Conservative and Union party of Great Britain are not a "Centre" Right party, they are a Right wing party. 78.145.65.76 (talk) 06:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Is Johnson still leader?

He is still listed as leader but media in my country claim (or report as if) his resignation as party leader came immediately into effect and that he remains Prime Minister only, for as long as a new party leader is elected. I thought there should be another, acting, party leader now. If not, what's the difference between his retreat as leader and his retreat as prime minister? Do they happen at the same time, with Johnson as acting leader of the party until the election of a new one? 2001:4BC9:A46:BF35:CD7A:6AC0:69B5:EAF1 (talk) 05:57, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

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