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October 2020
Please do not add or change content, as you did at Love at first sight, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 00:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I added reliable, secondary sources, which you bald-facedly reverted. Don't come lecture me in editing, it's you who are at fault, talk. — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 00:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, but "His motivation is not supported by a verification of the actual content he's removing" doesn't make any sense. Motivations aren't usually supported, and the content I removed precisely lacked secondary verification. If you don't understand that content in Misplaced Pages needs secondary sourcing AND needs to be relevant, then please re-read our guidelines. Plus, the whole thing is ridiculous. Imagine adding a list to Beer of all the people in literature or the media or politics or whatever who drank a beer. Drmies (talk) 00:16, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I know very well what secondary sources are; the sources I used are secondary. The primary source for the Jonathan and David story would be the Bible. Secondary sources are those summarizing and discussing the primary source, which is what the two books and article I used as references did. What I said in reverting, and I think is clear enough, is that your description of the material you removed was false, talk. — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 00:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe these actually verify what you claim it verifies--but that doesn't mean a. it's noteworthy and b. the rest of the list is properly verified. It is not. Drmies (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- A. They're books and an article published by reputable publishers and a journal. I don't know what you mean by "noteworthy", but I don't think a book and an article need to be "noteworthy" to be included here; they need be reliable, which they are by the standards of the house. B. Then remove the other parts of the list, not the one I inserted; you never edited that article before my edit, so I don't buy that you were not taking aim at my edit. Do you object to all discussion of homosexual themes in the Bible? CC: User:Drmies — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 00:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Don't be silly: your last comment is ridiculous. No, I will be happy to stay a while and celebrate same-sex love with you, in the bible and elsewhere. But a. you reinstated a long and ridiculous list, and b. surely there are better places to put that paragraph than a silly little article on an idiomatic phrase. This content belongs in Samuel 1, or (obviously) in David and Jonathan. Drmies (talk) 00:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- One of the books I cited was by an author noteworthy to have merited an entry on Misplaced Pages, so I think that answers your first question. The sources I cited were not only reliable, published in reputable academic sources, but at least one is also of some celebrity. And as I cited, you never edited that article before; and your blanket deletion of content happened ONE MINUTE (or what felt to me like one minute) after my edit, giving the first example of love at first sight between people of the same sex in the entry. I couldn't but think you had a problem about my edit in particular, since you never intervened in the article before. CC: User:Drmies — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 00:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- I didn't have a problem specifically with your edit, but it alerted me to the article. Drmies (talk) 18:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- One of the books I cited was by an author noteworthy to have merited an entry on Misplaced Pages, so I think that answers your first question. The sources I cited were not only reliable, published in reputable academic sources, but at least one is also of some celebrity. And as I cited, you never edited that article before; and your blanket deletion of content happened ONE MINUTE (or what felt to me like one minute) after my edit, giving the first example of love at first sight between people of the same sex in the entry. I couldn't but think you had a problem about my edit in particular, since you never intervened in the article before. CC: User:Drmies — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 00:32, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
- Don't be silly: your last comment is ridiculous. No, I will be happy to stay a while and celebrate same-sex love with you, in the bible and elsewhere. But a. you reinstated a long and ridiculous list, and b. surely there are better places to put that paragraph than a silly little article on an idiomatic phrase. This content belongs in Samuel 1, or (obviously) in David and Jonathan. Drmies (talk) 00:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
You've been asked not to add information without reliable sources, but
this isn't just unsourced, it's not even mentioned in the article which is almost worse. You are clearly capable of sourcing but you seem to have ignored your discussion with User:Drmies - this doesn't bode well for you. Doug Weller talk 13:27, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- User:Doug Weller, when I came across the article, I wondered who the idiot is who still believes M269 has anything to do with Neolithic farming expansion. Your post answers my question. This thesis that you are defending is from the 2000s, which is almost prehistory when it comes to ancient DNA research. Ancient samples only began to be genotyped in the past decade, and from studies published since then, we know today that M269 does not exist among Anatolian farmers or among European farmers who descend from them. M269 was first found in the Yamnaya culture, located on the Pontic-Caspian steppe, and from cultures that are genetically linked to it, such as Corded Ware and Bell Beaker. This has been common knowledge since 2015. How is it that someone who apparently follows the subject has not yet learned this fact?
- Go to the entries of other subjects pertinent to this subject - for example, Yamnaya and R1b - and you'll see a multitude of sources attesting to each of the facts that I am teaching you here, that Western European R1b, which is entirely derived from M269, came from the Bronze Age steppe expansion and had not yet arrived in Europe in the Neolithic.
- I had not entered a reference because I was on the cell phone. I intended to remedy this situation later, when I got home, but now that I'm here, I have lost my will. Your presumptuous, ignorant and unnecessarily threatening message made me lose the will to collaborate in editing that shamefully outdated entry.
- Why mention here my discussion with User: Drmies, which was about another topic? Why being so needlessly confrontational?User: Drmies accused me of not using noteworthy secondary sources, but anyone who reads my replies to him or, better yet, the edit I made and that he removed, will see that this accusation was ridiculous and incorrect. To justify himself, he had to resort to the fact that, even if my edit complied with the standards, other items that he removed, inserted before my edit, were not up to Misplaced Pages's standards.
- Learn to read. Everything you've done towards me here - starting with removing my edit in R-M269 to your comments regarding my discussion with User: Drmies - proves that you don't read - you don't current research on subjects that you edit, and you don't read Misplaced Pages discussions between users that you needlessly dredge up later. — Peleio Aquiles (talk) 14:39, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yawn. You came to an article and replaced sourced text (you denied there was a source but it's right there in the article) with unsourced, and didn't even add an edit summary. The origin that you added isn't even mentioned in the article, so certainly didn't belong in the infobox. That's not the way to edit. There's no deadline for editing articles. If you absolutely had to do something immediately, you could have started a brief talk page discussion or tagged the article from your phone. Then I might have done what in fact I started to do last night at RSN, look for better sources. All you did was menton Haak again and point to two articles, one which seems to rely entirely on Haak et al for origin. Doug Weller talk 12:59, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
October 2020
Hello, I'm RegentsPark. I noticed that you made a comment on the page Talk:Yamnaya culture that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Misplaced Pages is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. RegentsPark (comment) 12:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. I removed your comment on the Yamnaya culture talk page. It is not helpful to accuse an editor of acting in bad faith. Far better to focus on the content you want to add and to bring reliable sources to the table. Please note that this is not a comment on your content issue. Best. --RegentsPark (comment) 12:46, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
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