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Conflicting sources for birth place

Sports-Reference.com lists Keller's birth place as Phoenix, Arizona; his U.S. Olympic committee profile says Las Vegas, Nevada. Can anyone reconcile this? Another source? Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 20:12, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Klete Keller/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

Last edited at 18:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC). Substituted at 21:19, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Can someone PLEASE find some photo under Fair Use that we can put on this page? It looks like his photo is printed on a sheet of sandpaper. Negrong502 (talk) 02:03, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@Negrong502: As he is not deceased, fair use images are not able to be used in this manner per WP:NFCI. SecretName101 (talk) 03:08, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: Crap. Okay. Negrong502 (talk) 14:28, 14 January 2021 (UTC) @SecretName101:@Negrong502: I feel like no picture at all would be better than the one that's currently there. Thoughts? Wes sideman (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

THE PICTURE THAT IS UP IS NOT KLETE KELLER. This is a picture of Mark Gangloff, a different member of the 2004/2008 Olympic teams! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hunter.hoj (talk • contribs) 17:09, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Check Swimswam.com to see if they have any free photos that can be used, but this photo should come down.Hunter.hoj (talk) 17:13, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: - you were the user that extracted the photo of Keller. How did you identify Keller in the larger photo? Is it possible a mistake was made? ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia 17:41, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Homeless category

The category says "People known to be homeless all or much of the time, or otherwise famously associated with past or present periods of homelessness". Keller was not famous for being homeless. There wasn't even any coverage of his homelessness at the time. He's famous for being a swimmer, and now, slightly famous for his role in the Capitol attack. His homeless period is a mere blip. That should be the end of it. Wes sideman (talk) 19:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

you state right here that he's famous for being a Swimmer and "slightly" famous for his role at the capitol. Sounds hypocritical to me. the only reason he is even "slightly" famous for the capitol is BECAUSE he's an Olympic champion, otherwise there wouldn't even be a wiki bio on him in the first place! Defeedme (talk) 02:18, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Recent changes to the lead

Another editor, Defeedme, has made some significant POV changes to the lead recently, and, so far, ignored my request to discuss here rather than their edit summaries. I did just look at their edit history, and they have not edited any articles since May 10, and previously appealed a block they were under by threatening to edit as a sockpuppet, as noted by Daniel Case. I really don't want to get into an online argument over this so I'm starting a discussion here myself in hopes of avoiding a report on edit warring. Wes sideman (talk) 14:14, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Long Standing? Have you ever been a competitive swimmer? his swimming career is a far more important fact in his life and the only reason he is in the news (which may or may not be reliable), Jan 6 does not define who he is as a person and his Olympic accomplishments. The correct term is competitive swimmer, not competition. See other swimmers wiki page like Michael Phelps and Mark Spitz, they use competitive swimmer. Additionally he has not been sentenced yet for over 1 year. Not sure what you have against this person. Defeedme (talk) 02:09, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Whether or not an editor has been a competitive swimmer has no bearing on the content of this article, unless the editor actually knows Klete Keller personally; in that case, WP:COI would come into play. As for level of importance - his swimming career was no doubt impressive in the world of swimming, as there are only 173 medals available to win at each Olympics in swimming and he did win 5 of those over 3 different Olympics, but in the big picture of notability, his medals were a mere blip in the news of the world. There has been far, far more coverage of his actions on Jan 6 and the subsequent legal proceedings - in fact, it's impossible to find an article about him since 2020 that DOESN'T mention Jan 6. Wes sideman (talk) 12:11, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

I don't know him personally and I disagree with you 100%. His Olympic champion level of notability is what really counts. The Olympics is a major International WORLD event, and he medalled in 3 of them! That is NOT a "blip". Jan 6 is a small local disruption in comparison. In the big picture, his Swimming career and Olympic medals including 2 gold far outweigh Jan 6. The fact you are arguing over a minor edit of putting "felon" after his Olympic Gold Medal accomplishments is curious. Especially since he has not even been sentenced yet (or is that not important to you). It's not like I'm trying to remove anything, it just comes second in the sentence. Defeedme (talk) 02:48, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

If you're the only one with this opinion, the current version will stand. Wes sideman (talk) 12:01, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

that's funny you are bringing up my past appeal when you have quite a few warnings about edit warring yourself. It appears you have something against this person when you have no idea what sacrifice someone must go through in life to be an Olympic champion, let alone in one of the hardest sports. His Olympic career is way more important in his life and you trying to put felon before his Olympic accomplishments is just plain wrong any way you look at it. Defeedme (talk) 02:13, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

as noted by —QuietMedian Defeedme (talk) 02:24, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

I see you're referring to this account, which popped into existence solely to revert edits of mine on Zeta Psi, was already well-versed in Misplaced Pages policies, and disappeared shortly thereafter. In other words, a sockpuppet or meatpuppet account. What a coincidence that you would bring that one up! Wes sideman (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

there must of been a reason he was reverting your edits... Defeedme (talk) 02:51, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

POV you mean point of view? It's not a point of view, it's facts. Defeedme (talk) 02:25, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

You'll have to be more specific. Wes sideman (talk) 13:35, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Pinging @Kuru:, @Ohnoitsjamie:, @Daniel Case:, @DanielRigal:, @CreecregofLife: as they have some experience dealing with this user. I just read this taunt and I believe this user is WP:NOTHERE to build an encyclopedia, so I'm done with them. Wes sideman (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

@Wes sideman: You need to stop now. When you point a finger at another, you point four at yourself. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:32, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

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