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wstitle parameter

With this edit (Revision as of 07:00, 27 March 2022) you broke the link to wikisource article. DNB articles on Wikisource use a dash not an ndash in dab extensions. This is why there is also a display= parameter to display the article name with an ndash on the Misplaced Pages page. Please fix you script not to alter templates with a wstitle= parameter. There is a category of pages where some helpful editors have made this change and broken the links to the Wikisource article. PBS (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

September music

September songs

Thank you for improving articles in September! Yesterday, we sang old music for two choirs at church, pictured, scroll to the image of the organ of the month of the Diocese of Limburg (my perspective), and if you have time, watch the video about it. And today I wrote an article about music premiered today, Like as the hart. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Jospeh Lister

Hi @Srich32977: I was wondering why you removed all publishing dates from the referenceing on the Joseph Lister article and replaced with Year properties? scope_creep 23:57, 25 September 2022 (UTC)

@Scope creep: – Thanks for your question. Knowing the particular day a book is published isn't helpful to readers. Libraries don't use them. (See WorldCat, etc.) The ISBN/Book sources links might produce such info if the reader peruses the listings. But if we just list the year of publication in our citations we cut out a bit of clutter and achieve consistency when books are cited. – S. Rich (talk) 00:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense. I've never used the year property, only the date entry and I've have created thousands of book entries references and so far, not once has any copyeditor come along and removed that information in the whole time I've been here, and I've worked with about 30-40 of them. Even the Gnomish folks don't take the info out, nor the AWB folk. It seems really odd and I plan to restore it back, as it serves no purpose to remove salient information. scope_creep 01:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm not sure that this Chapman Cite had such salient info. But your question leads me to Template:Cite book and I see that using "year" as a parameter is discouraged. IOW "date=2023" and "year=2023" both produce 2023. Okay – I want to learn – so I'll obey that word of discouragement. Future date of publication edits will stet the date markups. Thanks again! – S. Rich (talk) 01:46, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

October thanks

October songs

Thank you for improving articles in October! - Look for mine: two favourite concerts were on DYK, and too many on RD (three yesterday). -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

ISBNs

Thanks for the work you are doing tidying citations, but I do have some issues with how you are doing them. On the locations, I have no strong opinion on the style, but I think it saves trouble to stick to the practice preferred at FAC, of showing the state if the location is in the USA and the country elsewhere. On the isbns, I think that it is bad practice to show them as an unbroken string. Breaking them up with dashes or spaces is the universal practice in books, and it is much easier to copy an isbn correctly if it is broken up into blocks rather than being an unbroken string. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

@Dudley Miles: FAC doesn't say much about putting hyphens in the ISBNs. It does say "be consistent". When clicking an ISBN (how about ISBN 0861932293 for example) the Book sources page says "Spaces and dashes in the ISBN do not matter." You say "universal practice in books". This is a vague term, and it does not have much support. For example, in the WorldCat listing for OCLC 17298544 the ISBNs do not have hyphens. And we do not see hyphens in Good Reads listings (see: this example). "Copy an isbn" ??? – Readers are using computers to read articles. The "Command + C" function does copying quite nicely. And where is London? I think it is in London, England or London, UK, or London, Great Britain or somewhere in Europe. Common knowledge helps us avoid WP:Clutter. – S. Rich (talk) 18:46, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

Older books tend to use spaces rather than hyphens, but virtually all of my books use one or the other on the copyright page. I would ask you to respect hyphens or spaces if the majority of books in the article format them that way.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:10, 17 November 2022 (UTC)