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This article was nominated for deletion on 18 June 2017. The result of the discussion was speedy keep.

Covfefe was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 7 June 2017 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Social media use by Donald Trump. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

SuspendThePres was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 30 July 2020 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Social media use by Donald Trump. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Section sizes Section size for Social media use by Donald Trump (96 sections) Section name Byte count Section total (Top) 20,792 20,792 Background 1,309 2,998 Trump's use of media 1,689 1,689 Twitter 3,689 294,572 Followers 3,587 3,587 Public opinion 2,347 2,347 Rate of tweets 3,480 3,480 Device security 7,079 7,079 Tweets as official statements 4,833 4,833 Timeline 8,276 8,276 Live-tweeting Fox & Friends 2,220 2,220 Insults 3,418 3,418 International threats 28 6,999 2017–2019 Qatar diplomatic crisis 3,812 3,812 Threat to destroy North Korea 1,987 1,987 Threat to destroy Iran's cultural sites 1,172 1,172 Sharing of violent, far-right, and extremist content 1,690 56,624 During campaign 6,867 6,867 CNN wrestling video 7,197 7,197 Britain First videos 20,139 20,139 South Africa 4,324 4,324 Katie Hopkins 2,842 2,842 Allusions to violence in May 2020 2,068 2,068 OANN conspiracy theory 8,372 8,372 "White power" video clip 3,125 3,125 Election claims and grievances 37 16,311 2016 campaign: Trump Tower wiretapping allegations 1,515 1,515 2016 campaign: Investigation into Russian influence 1,810 1,810 2020 campaign: Suggestion of delaying election 4,181 4,181 2020 election: Attempt to overturn results 8,768 8,768 Other controversial tweets 34 57,941 Comments on Sadiq Khan 5,474 5,474 Comments on Morning Joe hosts 7,179 7,179 Joe Scarborough smear 5,715 5,715 Attacks on federal judges, officials, departments and FBI 11,799 11,799 Comments on the Squad 11,841 11,841 Retweeting Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy theory 1,799 1,799 "Liberate" tweets 1,412 1,412 Retweeting unlicensed Linkin Park song 695 695 Calling Trending on Twitter section illegal 2,372 2,372 Tweets on illegal immigrants 4,360 4,360 Tweets about the American suburbs 1,794 1,794 Spread of COVID-19 misinformation 3,467 3,467 Other notable tweets 28 6,095 Announcing positive test for COVID 1,541 1,541 "Covfefe" 4,526 4,526 Tweets during first impeachment 335 11,842 "Civil War" tweet 3,408 3,408 Threats against Representative Adam Schiff and whistleblower 5,300 5,300 Lynching tweet 2,799 2,799 Blocking of Twitter users 8,663 8,663 Effects on litigation 4,564 4,564 Effects on the stock market 4,384 4,384 Deletion of tweets 5,181 5,181 Caution on tweets 1,784 19,044 "Get the facts about mail-in ballots" 5,200 5,200 "Glorifying violence" 8,801 8,801 "Manipulated media" 795 795 "Abusive behavior" 714 714 "Misleading health claims" 933 933 "Misleading about an election" 817 817 Suspensions and deactivations 70 21,588 2017 6,931 6,931 2021 8,370 8,370 Reactions to Trump's suspension 6,217 6,217 Satire and memes 2,287 2,287 Archival 2,821 2,821 Reactions and analysis 6,878 10,054 SuspendThePres 3,176 3,176 Permanent suspension 12,550 12,550 Reinstatement 5,137 5,137 Warrant 3,558 3,558 Other social media platforms 33 30,863 Facebook and Instagram 54 10,764 Banned from both platforms 4,664 4,664 Facebook 4,276 4,276 Instagram 1,770 1,770 Reddit 1,933 1,933 YouTube 3,015 3,015 Snapchat 2,432 2,432 Twitch 1,847 1,847 Triller 2,336 2,336 Parler 2,846 2,846 Gab 3,127 3,127 Rumble 941 941 Gettr 1,127 1,127 TikTok 462 462 Self-hosted media activity 1,827 6,409 45office.com 1,980 1,980 From the Desk of Donald J. Trump 2,602 2,602 Truth Social 6,749 6,749 See also 561 561 Notes 3,155 3,155 References 31,765 31,765 Further reading 340 340 External links 2,067 2,067 Total 400,271 400,271

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A lot of this article requires editing for conjecture. Second paragraph, first sentence "For most of Trump's presidency, his account on Twitter, where he often posted controversial and false statements," Misplaced Pages should not determine validity of statements made by political figures in public office but only state that said claims are disagreed upon and controversial. I find this excerpt and others like it in this article against the integrity of Misplaced Pages.

Statement should read: "For most of Trump's presidency, his account on Twitter, where he often posted controversial statements," Wid777 (talk) 05:56, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Have you got any policy based reasons for your suggestion? If you haven't, then nothing will be changed. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 06:01, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Frankly a lot of these citations point to not a specific issue on an external website. Furthermore, there are many disputing claims in public knowledge to the opinions held within these cited websites. I do not think Misplaced Pages should determine validity of statements made by public officials when there is a large amount of dissent present. Material should only have citations to specific matters. Wid777 (talk) 06:23, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

"Donald Trump and Twitter" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Donald Trump and Twitter and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 22#Donald Trump and Twitter until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 19:05, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

Subjective wording

Under the section about Trump's own social media network it says "Trump quietly incorporated..." etc. The word word"quietly" adds a narrative quality to the article and just makes it less objective. I can't edit this page for some reason. Can someone please remove this word from the sentence? 68.118.98.100 (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Have you checked the source to see if it really backs up the content? -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 05:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

The source is clearly reliable and backs up the sentence, but the wording is too subjective and doesn't mesh with Misplaced Pages's standards. 68.118.98.100 (talk) 21:01, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Update

Trump has recently been unbanned from Twitter. Can Misplaced Pages please update the article? 100.16.152.25 (talk) 01:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Number of Twitter followers

Right now, the 1st paragraph of the lede says: "When Twitter banned Trump from the platform in January 2021 during the final days of his term, his handle @realDonaldTrump had over 88.9 million followers." Trump was just unbanned, and when I checked his handle on Twitter just now, he has 72.3 million followers.

I'm guessing the drop over the last 2 years is because many accounts were bots and those handles no longer exist on the platform. The undesirability of bots was a big theme in Elon Musk's 2022 purchase of Twitter. Twitter may have deleted them, or else their operators got bored of them.

It seems that, if we state the old number of followers, we should also mention the new number. But does the number need to be interpreted? Tuckerlieberman (talk) 12:07, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

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