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A.Garnet, are any of Aristovoulos's additions not relevant to the Civil War? No, they all have something to do with it. What you're doing looks like you're trying to maintain a POV fork.--] 16:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC) A.Garnet, are any of Aristovoulos's additions not relevant to the Civil War? No, they all have something to do with it. What you're doing looks like you're trying to maintain a POV fork.--] 16:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

:I am deleting information which is of no relevance to Cyprus as an independent republic and the distinct and notable conflict which followed. This isnt a case of some villagers shooting each other, it is a case of complete governmental and constitutional collpase, the division of the two communities, the arming of paramilitaries and the intervention of foreign powers, all of it during the height of the cold war. Now tell me what timars in the 18th century under the Ottoman Empire have to do with any of this?

:Yes, there are some relevant edits which I was attempting to contextualise until you reverted. --] 16:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

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As one sided as it can get

Needs a lot of attention Aristovoul0s 13:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

That is not how it works. First you discuss what you find one sided, before you unilaterally decide to change the entire scope of the article. This article covers the period of violence between 1963-1974 and I intend to striclty keep it within that period. The rest of the information (some of them direct copy and paste jobs) can be moved to more relvant areas i.e. History of Cyprus. --A.Garnet 14:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Why does it have to be kept strictly within that period? Does selective writing, omitting the events which make the Greek side look bad and the present Turks as innocent victims sound neutral to you? Everything must be presented in the full context. To be honest I don't think this article is necessary and that it's a WP:POVFORK of other articles (in your version at least), the history of Cyprus article being one of them.--Domitius 14:38, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Because the period 1963-74 is a distinct and notable part of the Cyprus conflict and it had absoloutely no coverage on Misplaced Pages prior to this article, much like the official Republic of Cyprus version of events--A.Garnet 15:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
So why are you deleting it?--Domitius 16:51, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Also moved back to original title, Cypriot intercommunal conflict is deliberately vague. Sources for Cypriot civil war:On War Routledge companion to World History, International Conflict: A Chronological Encyclopedia of Conflicts and Their Management, 1945-1995, The Relations of Nations, Family in War and Conflict: Using Social Capital for Survival in War Torn Cyprus,From great hope to scapegoat - US support of the United Nations, The Meaning of Limited War, The Cyprus Question and the Turkish Position in International Law--A.Garnet 15:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

A.Garnet, are any of Aristovoulos's additions not relevant to the Civil War? No, they all have something to do with it. What you're doing looks like you're trying to maintain a POV fork.--Domitius 16:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I am deleting information which is of no relevance to Cyprus as an independent republic and the distinct and notable conflict which followed. This isnt a case of some villagers shooting each other, it is a case of complete governmental and constitutional collpase, the division of the two communities, the arming of paramilitaries and the intervention of foreign powers, all of it during the height of the cold war. Now tell me what timars in the 18th century under the Ottoman Empire have to do with any of this?
Yes, there are some relevant edits which I was attempting to contextualise until you reverted. --A.Garnet 16:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)