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:::::::I think a conclusion in support of an infobox is much more likely if we provide a demonstrative infobox like I did at Mackenzie’s article. I can’t work on that tonight but I’ll try to get to it tomorrow…and if you guys beat me to it, I’ll help when I get back. <b><span style="color:#0080FB">Invading</span><span style="color:#0668E1">Invader</span></b> (], ]) 02:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC) :::::::I think a conclusion in support of an infobox is much more likely if we provide a demonstrative infobox like I did at Mackenzie’s article. I can’t work on that tonight but I’ll try to get to it tomorrow…and if you guys beat me to it, I’ll help when I get back. <b><span style="color:#0080FB">Invading</span><span style="color:#0668E1">Invader</span></b> (], ]) 02:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
:::::::According to , the editor has been blocked multiple times for edit warring and personal attacks. I'm getting a bad feeling about this tbh.... <b><span style="color:#0080FB">Invading</span><span style="color:#0668E1">Invader</span></b> (], ]) 07:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC) :::::::According to , the editor has been blocked multiple times for edit warring and personal attacks. I'm getting a bad feeling about this tbh.... <b><span style="color:#0080FB">Invading</span><span style="color:#0668E1">Invader</span></b> (], ]) 07:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

*Nice little batch of personal attacks and untruths here. {{u|EnPassant}}, if you're going to accuse people of doing something, get your facts straight: I have not edited the Sophie Dahl page, so feel free to strike that lie. (Look at the Geolocate details and you'll see that it's a different ISP to me - not everyone in London editing from an IP6 IP address is me, so if you can't be bothered to check, perhaps you should ] before accusing others.) ] (]) 15:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC)

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Carlos Ruiz Source

Hello, Here is Carlos Ruiz's baseball reference page where you can see how many games he played for each team. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/r/ruizca01.shtml Zhokam (talk) 19:23, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! InvadingInvader (talk) 19:25, 19 September 2022 (UTC)

Better template choice

Thanks for that latest warning on User talk:24.134.47.53. I did not know of that choice for a template warning. Are you using Twinkle, and if so, which warning template is that? I will use that in the future. TY. — Moops 18:52, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

I'm using RedWarn...I just selected the Censorship template. Thanks for the kind words! :) InvadingInvader (talk) 18:53, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

the new 2023 in the United States

@InvadingInvader: hey you mind cleaning up the new 2023 in the United States article, as you're the one who mainly edits these pages. 4me689 (talk) 19:37, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

@4me689 sure…out today so I can’t get on it immediately, but I’ll put it it on my to do list InvadingInvader (talk) 19:42, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

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Kohler competitors

I have removed the original research tag for the list of competitors, since their competitors are well known throughout the industry. For toilets, their main competitors are American Standard and Toto. For faucets, their main competitors are Moen, Delta, American Standard, and Pfister. ANDROSTALK 22:52, 30 September 2022 (UTC)

Large edits can be difficult to review

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Nomination of Minor United States events in 2022 for deletion

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RFC occurring at WP:YEARS

Hello. Will you please stop re-adding the Collage images box at 2022 in the United States. We're waiting to see the results of the RFC at the related WP:YEARS project. This decision will occur, after the RFC tag has expired & a request for closure has been responded to. GoodDay (talk) 02:56, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

I left my response to the collage dispute on that discussion. InvadingInvader (talk) 03:43, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks

For creating Successors of Standard Oil! Was a bit surprised we didn't have such an article sooner; really appreciate the work you've done there. Elli (talk | contribs) 21:27, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 13:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Cesarina Ricci de Tingoli

Hi - just a heads up that I reverted your close of this AfD. Not sure why, but the close was formatted incorrectly, the title of the article should be within the archive header (see differences here). If you don't use it already, I'd recommend using Misplaced Pages:XFDcloser. Finally, I just want to emphasise I only reverted because of the formatting, but in general one shouldn't close one's own withdrawn AfDs, it's always best to let an uninvolved editor or admin do it. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 09:00, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks for the heads-up! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 13:54, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Massey Lake, Texas

Hi! I saw the information you added to Massey Lake, Texas. Thank you for improving the article and adding the information! Colman2000 (talk) 04:06, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks Colman! I find myself doing a lot of this stuff as of recent ;) InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 13:55, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
No problem! Please let me know about any future edits you make. Keep it up! You're doing great! Colman2000 (talk) 04:19, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages Library

Have you checked it out? I don't know what the rules are these days for access, but it strikes me that you definitely qualify based on the old requirements. One of the best library cards in the world. Cielquiparle (talk) 06:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Olympian articles

Hi, InvadingInvader! I notice you've recently PRODed some Olympians for deletion. Thanks for getting involved in tackling the enormous amount of these probably non-notable stubs!

I just wanted to make a couple of suggestions if you don't mind. First off, most articles for Olympians who only participated in one event can be boldly redirected as an alternative to deletion. All you need to do is follow the simple instructions at Misplaced Pages:Redirect. If the Olympian only competed in one event, you can normally redirect it to that specific event article. It saves a lot of time and allows for articles to be easily restored if better sources are found.

Also, it's probably best not to send a deletion template to Lugnuts as he is banned with TPA revoked, so can't do anything about the notices. Lugnuts created a huge proportion of these Olympian stubs, so you'll come across his name quite a lot.

Hope you didn't mind the suggestions! Thanks. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 20:38, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I was not previously aware that Lugnuts was banned with TPA revoked. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 20:40, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Booster (film)

I have deprodded. I'm too unconvinced that Video Libarian is WP:RS, but The Austin Chronicle ref is borderline WP:SIGCOV (and is also RS, independent, and secondary), whereas the Variety one certainly is. This is IMO borderline notable, needing a further discussion. Your PROD stated and for all intents and purposes, is an orphan. Only 2 redirects and a single category page links here. However, being an orphan has no relationships whatsoever with any WP:DELREASON, see also WP:NEXIST. VickKiang (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced?

Check again. I provided refs for each of my information and fixed wording according to the sources. 103.240.204.243 (talk) 17:53, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Checked again...looks sufficiently referenced. Thanks for letting me know, and sorry for the inconvenience! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:56, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
It seems like you have copy pasted the text twice here. Its repeating the next paragraph if you search "Wendy Doniger dates the Kalki Mythology containing". You can simply restore this version by me. Thanks. 103.240.204.243 (talk) 17:58, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Regarding A Recent Warning

I see that you issued the templated warning {{uw-unsourced2}} to an IP editor and reverted an edit they made to PDA.

While I agree the edit needed to be reverted, as the edit was not done properly, I'm afraid your handling of it was very bitey. Citing sources for adding items to a disambiguation page is in general not a thing unless perhaps the item might be challenged or has been challenged, looking at the IP's history and talk page there was no reason to use level 2 over level 1, and issuing a warning for good faith edits should only be done if it addresses the specific thing they did so as to help them (e.g {{uw-test1}}). A better approach here would have been to fix the edit for the IP and possibly given them {{welcome-anon-unconstructive}}, as I have done now.

I appreciate all that you do on Misplaced Pages, I just ask you be a bit more careful moving forward. Cheers, and happy editing! Sirdog (talk) 18:07, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Got it. Thanks! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 18:08, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Political infoboxes

Howdy, we no longer show the successors, until they've taken office. GoodDay (talk) 07:18, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of ExxonMobil

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GA for ExxonMobil

Hi, I'm curious about your interest in bringing ExxonMobil and Chevron to Good Article status. I have been watching some of the discussion at WP:Vital articles where they are trying to bring up the quality of high-level articles (like Exxon and Chevron). It occurs to me that this can be difficult when lower-level supporting articles are of poor quality. (As, for example the glaring omissions at Criticism of ExxonMobil.) In this case: when Cancer alley doesn't even mention Exxon except in a photo caption, when Criticism of ExxonMobil doesn't mention Cancer alley, and when ExxonMobil Nigeria is merely a stub, it indicates a lot of missing information, so it's hard for that information to be duly weighted in the higher-level articles.

I'm just sharing this so you have a sense of where I'm coming from with this review: I'd like to focus on the main article under consideration, but it's such a high-level (WP:vital) article that bringing it to GA may have implications for missing content in supporting articles. I don't intend to bog down the review with this, and I can support a little in filling in some of the bigger gaps. Anyway, I hope you'll be patient with that process, and I hope this makes sense! Larataguera (talk) 15:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. Much of my work is mirrored between both Exxon and Chevron, and much of what can be improved in the Exxon article (assuming that we're doing this first) can be mirrored on over to Chevron. Most of my work has been focusing on improving Exxon's operations, corporate structure, and history. My biggest concern with both articles is due weight with regards to criticism, which is part of my reason for the split into separate articles.
I absolutely agree in retrospect that while the split was a good move, more content should have been kept on the main article; this is one of the most widely criticized companies in the world. I appreciate the thorough review that you are taking into this article, and take your time by all means. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 19:16, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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Year in the United States pages

Will you PLEASE open an RFC on "Year in the United States" pages, instead continuing to force a college onto 'one' page. GoodDay (talk) 23:24, 1 December 2022 (UTC)

Look man, consensus was already established a LONG time ago to include the collage. You're the only one who really wants this off the article. What you're doing like borderline disruptive editing. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:29, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
No it wasn't. Not with only four editors involved. But, I will offer a compromise for all the "Year in United States" pages. Have the colleges, but reduce the size. GoodDay (talk) 23:31, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
The talk page for 2022 in the United States is notoriously one which is lacking frequent participation from personal experience. And I'm tired of everything having to go to an RFC; nearly all of the people who edit 2022 in the United States who have participated in that discussion are in favor of the collage. You're not an admin, and you have limited merit on how to dictate things on Misplaced Pages. Regardless, though, I think we can come to an agreement to make the collage on 2022 in the United States smaller, though I would like to ask whether you want it smaller in pixel size or amount of images present. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:36, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
I've restore the college, as I found its size to be acceptable. If you would agree to keep future colleges in the "Year in the United States" pages, to that size? I'll be content. GoodDay (talk) 23:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Could you clarify on pixel size or amount of content featured? And I'm not the person who wants to add collages to all years/pages; just this one. If you'd like to start discussions on the other individual years, go ahead. I'd be happy to offer my thoughts. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:42, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
I've no problem with it as is, if it's not expanded in any way. Not sure why you're only interested in this one page, when it's part of a series of pages. GoodDay (talk) 23:47, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
2022 in the United States is a page I've personally been mostly invested in, and I'm not a biggie on joining WP Years at this point. I'm mostly working on adding current events to 2022 in the US. If you want to talk about how to do collages, @4me689 is the editor who seems to be much more interested in collages, so I suggest you work with him/her/them. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:53, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
One little mistake. We want the International Year colleges downsized to fit the US 2022 page example. Not the other way around. It was cumbersome size of the International colleges, that was created most of the complaints. GoodDay (talk) 23:55, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 00:01, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Balboa Park station

While I appreciate your interest in the Balboa Park station article, I don't think trying to take it to FAC would be the best idea. For one, FAC is very demanding - it's generally considered the most difficult article review process to pass. It doesn't look like you have any experience bringing articles to DYK and GA; I highly recommend getting experience there before going to FAC. Second, it's not an article that you've worked on at all, nor a topic area that you have significant experience in. You'll be much better off going to FAC with an article that you've substantially worked on and know inside and out. Third, when an active editor has already done substantial work on an article such as bringing it to GA, it's both polite and sensible to consult with them before nominating the article. In this case, I would have been able to inform you that the article is not ready for FAC, as I need to update several sections. Thanks, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:10, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder; I shortly realized this after nominating and ultimately decided to remove this. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 23:11, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Great work on 2022 in the United States article

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for the great work updating/expanding/editing the 2022 in the United States article. TomCat4680 (talk) 08:09, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
Thanks man! I really appreciate it! InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 08:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

IP editor formally known as SchroCat

First of all... welcome to the infobox discussion. Who knew that something as inane as infoboxes would be the source of this much consternation. I left a similar comment at another editors talk about SchroCat. That editor is going to be hostile about infoboxes. After the RfC on Laurence Oliver they stonewalled adding marriages to the infobox under some kind of bizarre undue argument. So I had to open up another RfC. There's been a few ARB cases around infoboxes in the past. I guess it got heated a few years ago. I'm trying to avoid all of that because most editors who review this from the outside aren't going to object or get upset about it. It seems like the only way to stop infoboxes from being implemented is to just grind it up in red tape. Nemov (talk) 13:47, 9 December 2022 (UTC)

The anti-infobox editors for some reason has a problem with me…idk why. I saw Ssilvers engage in ownership behavior on Maddie’s article, and when I dropped a friendly reminder for her on her talk page asking her nicely to kind of keep it down from there, she deleted my comment and “banned” home from her talk page. Talk about a “positive constructive attitude”…anyways I’m prepared to open up an RFC if they keep stonewalling tbh. I wouldn’t mind if you open one up yourself earlier though. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:28, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I'd rather find a consensus solution instead of creating RfCs. Hopefully if these topics are settled in a civil manner and they see that infoboxes are going to be a standard part of the Misplaced Pages project they'll eventually WP:DROPTHESTICK. I hoped that would be the case after the Laurence Olivie RfC, but apparently that's not the case. Nemov (talk) 19:52, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
That editor will never drop the stick. See the history of Sophie Dahl for reference. EnPassant♟♙ (talk) 20:50, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
Yeah it might take an RFC to finally "Checkmate" (sorry for the bad pun) SchroCat. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 21:11, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
If someone else starts it (Village Pump?) I'll participate. EnPassant♟♙ (talk) 21:20, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
I extended the RfC in the other article and added it to a few other topic areas to increase visibility. If there's a clear consensus that should help on the related article. Thanks! Nemov (talk) 01:43, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
I think a conclusion in support of an infobox is much more likely if we provide a demonstrative infobox like I did at Mackenzie’s article. I can’t work on that tonight but I’ll try to get to it tomorrow…and if you guys beat me to it, I’ll help when I get back. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 02:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
According to SchroCat's block log, the editor has been blocked multiple times for edit warring and personal attacks. I'm getting a bad feeling about this tbh.... InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 07:50, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
  • Nice little batch of personal attacks and untruths here. EnPassant, if you're going to accuse people of doing something, get your facts straight: I have not edited the Sophie Dahl page, so feel free to strike that lie. (Look at the Geolocate details and you'll see that it's a different ISP to me - not everyone in London editing from an IP6 IP address is me, so if you can't be bothered to check, perhaps you should WP:AGF before accusing others.) 2A00:23C7:2B86:9801:F9F0:EEDB:4180:806C (talk) 15:06, 10 December 2022 (UTC)