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Lynn Willis

You indicated in your edit summary that you would oppose the AfD, so I thought it would be polite to notify you.--Kchase T 07:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

You should probably enter your opposition at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Lynn Willis, so that others will see it. Easy enough to copy and paste. I'll do so if you don't in the next few minutes (if you've turned in for the night).--Kchase T 07:42, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks 1632-stub

Thanks for the heads up--Guess it doesn't pay to plan ahead. This will reach far more if anyone starts doing characters and such. Shrug- I'm on break. // FrankB 23:43, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Sandinistas - Carla's Song

Hi. Instead of deleting Carla's song, could we not mention both movies? Atavi 20:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Frankly, I thing it would be a bad idea. What grounds would there be for denying anyone else who wanted to add a film or documentary to that section? Or books, etc. In fact, I considered deleting Nicaraguan Sign Language while I was there, I think its connection to the Sandinistas is tangential. I also thought about whether Carlos Mejia Godoy should be there, but he at least has some merit as a troubador of the Revolution. --Groggy Dice 22:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I can't really say you are wrong. There would be no grounds to deny adding a film, documentary or book. In my opinion, that would not be a bad thing; I have seen several articles mention related films etc. But if you strongly disagree, I see no reason to push forward with it. Atavi 08:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

It occured to me that, as far as the "See also" part goes you are absolutely right. But, would you object if I created a special section about films, books, etc? Atavi 08:50, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think the best bet might be to create a new List page of such works, then link to the "List of..." page from See also. --Groggy Dice 09:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

OK. I might do that in time. Atavi 11:20, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

William Bradford AfD

I haven't been watching it very well. If you have no objections I would like to copy your comments from my talk page to the AfD talk page and leave a note for the closing admin. You've laid them out well and they shoud be somewhere that can be easily seen. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 07:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

My comments were not ironic. I know of these groups. It is possible that eventually, William Bradford will become notable, but I doubt it. I do not want to dissuade you from your decision to keep the article, that is, after all, your judgement of the situation. I based my decision to delete based on Anita Hill. She is completely non-notable, except for the Clarence Thomas hearings. What makes Anita Hill notable is that you can say her name, and people know who you are talking about. Bradford has nowhere near the name recognition of Hill, even among academics. There are certain people and groups who would like to change that, but it hasn't happened yet. I searched through The Chronicle of Higher Education, which is the best bet for real news about Bradford among academics. There have been 2 articles that mention him in passing, and one that is about him (two in 2005, one in 2004). In your opinion, if that is enough for notability, then he is notable. Within two years, noone will remember his name -- even in academic circles; unlike Anita Hill. As an aside, I had about the same coverage some time ago for a different (and more positive) reason. In no way did that make me notable, and people soon forgot my name. I expect the same for Bradford. I wish more people spent time with these AfDs, and I appreciate your digging as much as you have. In the same way, some of us have spent considerable time on this even if we come up with a different decision. Ted/_{Contributions} 20:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

On the basis of your excellent and successful attempt to provide reliable sources for the William Bradford article, proving his notability and substantiating the article's claims, I have changed my "vote" from a weak delete to a keep. I am seriously impressed by the quality and quantity of your work. I am still unwilling to consider FrontPageMag.com a reliable source in general, but for the purposes of this article is apropos. Captainktainer * Talk 21:01, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Just left you a double thanks

here. I'll see if being a good samaritan qualifies for a Barnstar. Best! // FrankB 05:31, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Liza Wright

Could you please take a look at the current version of the Liza Wright article and make any improvements that seem appropriate? I tried to expand it. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 04:17, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

PROD delete at William Guy Carr

Hi Groggy... you recently removed the prod at the above article, saying the subject was notable. That is fine, but I am curious as to why you find the subject notable? Blueboar 18:14, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

List of direct-to-video films

I've put it up on AFD, if you want to comment. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 04:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

AfD Nomination: Liza Wright

I've nominated the article Liza Wright for deletion under the Articles for deletion process. I am notifying you because of your previous involvement in the editing of this article. I do not feel that Liza Wright satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and I have explained why in the nomination space (see What Misplaced Pages is not and Deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Liza Wright. Don't forget to add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of each of your comments to sign them. You are free to edit the content of Liza Wright during the discussion, but please do not remove the "Articles for Deletion" template (the box at the top). Doing so will not end the discussion. GringoInChile 17:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Domai

I've restored it at your request. You might like to work on the article for WP:NPOV and WP:V. Tyrenius 21:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

About my RfA

Hello. I just saw your rationale for upgrading your support to strong on my RfA. I had just read the latest oppose votes and while I had thus far been taking the punches rather well, I felt today a strong tingle of discouragement at the absurdity of it all (I guess I'm just having a bad day). So your extra support was particularly appreciated. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 22:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello, this is Missy Apmann - my article is under proposed deletion which I strongly support, because it contains very misunderstood and incorrect information. Is there any update with this? Thanks so much!!

Using English

Hello - I'm contacting you because of your involvement with using English instead of foreign terms in articles. A few are trying to "Anglicise" French terms in Wiki articles according to current guidelines but there is some resistance (eg/: "Région => Region"; "Département => Departement"). Your input would be appreciated here page. Thankyou. --Bob 16:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Carr article and AfD

I think you can stop adding citations at the AfD - I have withdrawn it (for now)... what would help is to add material to the article itself. Thanks Blueboar 01:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Joachim AfD

I'd like to thank you for tactfully and civilly pointing out that I was talking complete bollocks. All the best! Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

PROD delete at Famous Muhajirs

Hey..you recently removed the prod at the above article saying the article has a "long history and several editors". I was wonder how edits by the same FEW people count has that. Additionally, if you don't want it deleted should you not write on the discussion and not just remove the prod?

PROD delete at List of Bahrainis

I perhaps should have noted in my PROD nomination that the category "Bahraini People" is a much better method of tracking Bahrainis that maintaining a list. It seems that many lists are going that way. Perhaps you may reconsider. Maustrauser 21:17, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Central America Assessments

GroggyDice: Thanks for your feedback; there is a more detailed response at the page. I was starting to wonder if anyone was paying attention.

I like your ideas regarding both the specific article revisions and the general changes to approach. Do you think is worth the effort to maintain a list of importance guidelines? I could create a subpage for that purpose so maintenance would not require editing a talk page (although editing talk pages is not explicitely against wiki-policy)?

Thanks again, and happy editing :-) SRICE_{13 (TALK | EDITS)} 00:16, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Jordan Hasay Entry

Groggy Dice,

No problem on editing out the article from Dyestat. Actually, that was already part of the Jordan Hasay entry when I started editing yesterday. All I did as far as the article was to put a link to the original. I was kind of surprised to find it here.

fizbin

Slightly disingenuous statement...

I read the article as an outside observer, and gave my opinion. Mine was not the only deletion vote, and the only reason it was "no consensus" was because the nomination was withdrawn. That's a very different story than the one you're telling now. MSJapan 20:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you think I misrepresented what happened in that AfD, it was not my intention to leave a misleading impression. I never claimed to have any special evidence that you were anything other than an outside observer. Yes, you were not the only deletion vote (or !vote), but the three of you accounted for three of the four original delete votes. And I did allude to the fact that Blueboar withdrew his nomination. I'm not sure how my "story" is "different" from this. --Groggy Dice T | C 22:27, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey Groggy... Nothing serious... but I just want to register a slight objection to your labeling ALR, MSJapan and me as "the Masonic Three" (or whatever it was you called us) It sounds as if we are in collusion or a voting cabal or something. I can assure you that we don't always edit in lock step.  :>)

That said, thank you for your kind words about my conduct at the Carr AfD. I do try to be reasonable in every dispute I am involved with... and since my major reason for puting that article up for AfD was the lack of sources, and a frustration over the lack of response to my repeated calls for such sources, it was only right to withdraw the nom to give you time to add some once you expressed an interest in doing so. Many contentious AfD's could be resolved amicably if more people were willing to compromise and discuss. What is sad is that it often takes an AfD to get people to that point. Blueboar 19:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Mgmbill

Deletion tag was removed by the original author, not an admin. I have put the tage back and suggest that it stay in place until the discussion has completed as per Misplaced Pages:Proposed deletion. --Walter Görlitz 16:05, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Explain Tokkien

He was a professor right? Why did he need to make up a fake language for his book? Was he related to John Ruskin? Chivista 19:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

You're talking about JRR Tolkien? Despite my userbox, I'm afraid my Tolkien phase was many years ago, closer to the Rankin Bass era than the Peter Jackson era. He was a professor, but I don't know why he created original languages for Middle Earth. It may have something to do with his interest in linguistics, and his desire to flesh out the details of his setting. I don't know how or if he he might be related to John Ruskin. --Groggy Dice T | C 20:01, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Historical Eastern Germany

I think you'll be quite interested in this:Talk:Historical_Eastern_Germany#Requested_move. -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 04:26, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Please Vote YES for Category:Tamil_Americans

Hello,

I noticed that you have voted yes for the Category: Malayalee_Americans. There is now a vote started by Bakasuprman to delete and merge the Category: Tamil_Americans to Indian Americans and Sri Lankan Americans. This negative action will further divide the Tamils into either Indian or Sri Lankan. This is really uncalled for, and just a spitefull request by user Bakasuprman. So, please vote YES to keep the Category: Tamil Americans here:

Also, if you could get others to vote yes, it would be appreciated. Thank you.

Wiki Raja