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2005 North India earthquake 8 Oct
2005 North India earthquake --pradeepsomani
Bengali Translation ---- Hi Raj, just checked your message. I would be more than happy to do this translation. I will let you know as soon as I am finished. Thanks, pompeez
Image
The image you are linking to has some major problems which are noted in the discussion, and which I repeat here
- The Cross pattée (centre) is rather oddly placed - referring possibly to the Knights templar - which no longer exists,
- The triple crescent of Diane de Poitiers is supposed to represent wicca or mother goddess type neopaganism which unfortunately bears a strong resemblance to the Biological hazard Symbol.
- Notably missing is any symbol for Buddhism - normally recognised as a major world religion.
The new image has none of these problems. -- Jeff3000 19:31, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- I suggest keeping the new image. It solves all the problems. No need to do any work when the perfect solution already exists. -- Jeff3000 19:38, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- I quote the discussion from the page:
- "The Cross pattée (centre) is rather oddly placed - referring possibly to the Knights templar - which no longer exists, so maybe represents gnostic Christians - most of which do not exist. Ayyavazhi (bottom centre) is a small (on the world stage) syncretic Hindu sect, and also seems rather out of place. Lastly, I am guessing that the triple crescent of Diane de Poitiers is supposed to represent wicca or mother goddess type neopaganism which unfortunately bears a strong resemblance to the Biological hazard Symbol. Notably missing is any symbol for Buddhism - normally recognised as a major world religion. In light of your question, I feel that it is correct to edit the picture somewhat. If we were to represent nine religions, it seems to make sense to use the top nine organized religions found on World religion - namely Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Sikhism, Judaism, Bahá'í, Jainism, Shinto. Notable absences would be those excluded by the 'organized religion' requirement - Chinese traditional, Primal Indigenous, African traditional, and Secular/Atheists.. I have amended the picture for uses where it is meant to be representative of different religions. This should better reflect what I mention above. There is no ordering used in the image - I merely replaced some symbols with symbols from more popular reliigions. Moreover, I have thickened the lines used in order to make it more visible for Template:User religious pluralism. See Major world religions for the choice - I restricted the set to organised religions."
- The current picture already covers the most populous distinct organized religions. -- Jeff3000 19:42, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- I quote the discussion from the page:
- Given that Ayyavazhi is considered a demonition of Hinduism, it would not really be appropriate to put it in (as discussion above). Then all other demonitions would want to have their own symbol, not only from Hinduism, but other religions, like the Shi'a and Sunni in Islam, and different Christian demonitions. Furthermore the Ayyavazhi symbol is already in the Religion article in bright colours, so it's not like it's being censored. -- Jeff3000 19:44, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've already quoted the discussion which I feel is exactly spot on. It covers the most number of distinct religious traditions. -- Jeff3000 19:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks :) -- Jeff3000 19:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
- I've already quoted the discussion which I feel is exactly spot on. It covers the most number of distinct religious traditions. -- Jeff3000 19:47, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi Templates
Vaikunda Raja, what you term 'vandalism' is in fact constructive editing and clarifying.
- What is the need to have two templates linking essentially to the same list of pages as seen in Template:Religion of Ayyavazhi and Template:Ayyavazhi? That is why the smaller template Template:Religion of Ayyavazhi was merged into Template:Ayyavazhi. Inserting multiple templates essentially pointint to the same list of pages is known as Forking and spamming.
- In the Template:Ayyavazhi, there are links to pages that are no more than a list of empty pages and two line stubs. It is misleading the users to have a grandiose template with numerous links to empty pages. It also borders on spamming. Links to Ekam, Vethan, Thirumal, Sivan, and The Trinity all point to Hinduism pages or disamb pages and are not specific to Ayyavazhi and so they were removed.
- The template was condensed further to make it more usable by removing links to empty pages or stubs. You can put these links back when the stubs are expanded. I have seen no activity on these pages in months. What is the point in keeping the links on this template. They were removed due to this reason.
- What is the need for the Template:Ayyavazhi large to practically list every stub article you have created on this subject? You have already listed the main topics in Template:Ayyavazhi. That is why this was redirected to the main template. I have reverted it back to a condensed version.
How is your Italian coming along?! Parthi 23:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Stop inserting Ayyavazhi in irrelevant places
Vaikunda Raja, stop inserting Ayyavazhi into places that have nothing even remotely to do with it. Ayyavazhi is a small, miniscule, unrecognised, not notable sect confined to a few districts of Tamil Nadu. Nothing more nothing less. - Parthi 22:48, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Vaikunda Raja, can you cite neutral (meaning not connected with Ayyavazhi) references for
- the current number of adherents
- the spread of Ayyavazhi in Tamil Nadu and elsewhere
- the number of places of worship
- Ayyavazhi does not belong in every page remotely related to religion. You may believe that Ayyavazhi is notable enough to be included everywhere, but as it is not a recognised religion, it fails the notability criteria. You may create hundreds of articles on this subject, as you have already done, but you cannot start inserting Ayyavazhi in all and sundry as you have done in the past. - Parthi 23:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
- Paul/Vaikunda, we have been through this numerous times. If Ayyavazhi is 'not known commonly' and ' received official recognition' (according to yourself), then by definition it is NN|non notable. Stop inserting links to Ayaavazhi in general articles such as Dharma etc. You have already spawned WP with hundreds of stubs and forks for this unknown, miniscule and isolated faith. If you continue to do that I will be continuously deleting them. - Parthi 22:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Talib 72
Don't ever touch my userboxes. I designed all of the userboxes with symbols not pictures. I don't care how interested in the religion you are, only symbols, not pictures, may be inserted. If you want to reason with me contact me on my user page. User:Talib 72
Signing on talk pages
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Using the second format will lead only to wikipedia mainspace pages rather than userpages. Cheers. -- Chez • 04:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Re: Ayyaavazhi
That specifically is the point. It lacks official recognition. That was the reason why a concensus was reached between wikipedia editors some time back on not to include Ayyavazhi on the page. I'm not saying that the religon lacks credibility. Rather, it is not notable enough to be mentioned in such detail on the Religion in India page. At present it is presented with even more prominence than Islam or Christianity. This leads to false impressions on readers unfamiliar with the Indian context. Since you seem to be very well versed with the religion, may I ask why it hasnt yet been declared (by the govt) as a religion seperate from Hindusim?--thunderboltz 14:15, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Very similar point, except more so, in regards to adding it to Misplaced Pages:Vital articles. It may or may not be a religion in India, but as a new, disputed, and not particularly famous religion is definitely not one of the 1000 most vital articles for an encyclopedia to have. AnonEMouse 18:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
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Ayyavazhi NPOV
I'm from Tamilnadu and visited most places in my 23 years and have not even heard of this so-called religion. I tried to google it, and didnt find much conclusive evidence, apart from pages caching WP. In the meanwhile, the article seems to be having a lot of unverfied claims and glorification on the sect, and all the proof seems to emanate from one person's book & a couple of other questionable missionary sources. It seems to me that, anyone with some knowledge of WP and two questionable books as citation could glorify any thing as a religion in the world. The article doesnt even seems to show that majority of Tamils even have no idea what this sect means, and I'm not convinced why this sect should be considered more than any other sects in Tamilnadu. I'm not sure this aspect is NPOV and wanted more discussion on that. Balajiviswanathan 23:27, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Can you provide me atleast two peer-reviewed papers. Non peer-reviewed articles that are not published in reputed publications cannot be considered. Anyone could write a paper, but unless they are peer-reviwed, it cannot be considered a concrete source. The book of G Patrick (if there exists such a person really) cannot be found in any of the major library references and searches and I sincerely doubt any such book even exists. If there exists a book really, it must be verified by atleast one of the admins and be certified that is indeed a worthy book for religious reference. There are thousands of books and pamphelts claiming everything in the world and we cannot take all of them to be true. Honestly, you cannot use an unknown book and sprinkle the world with some unknown grouping's principles. This thing has gotten to a point, where I need to request for neutral arbitrers and verify all the sources. Citing 70 sources of an unknown book, seems a very fishy deal to me. Balajiviswanathan 00:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to hurt you. But, without having a conclusive proof you have managed to get around doing too many things in Misplaced Pages. We need the proof for all the actions and also want to resolve the case whether you had been using the names Vaikunta Raja, Paul Raj and other anonymous IPs to get your point. However, I don't question your great writing talent and Misplaced Pages usage knowledge. My point is that a totally unknown group is blown totally out of context and we need to tear down a lot of articles, including the portal. If you want to avoid this, bring us concrete proof. Notable news paper articles, official government material or notable peer-reviewed articles and books. Your book reference and paper references in the wiki pages are unacceptble as a concrete souce. Balajiviswanathan 00:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Dude, do you know what you have done to Misplaced Pages? You have put this whole project into lacking credibility. Send me some of the papers, and details of where they have been published. Btw, what is an university paper? Does it mean some reputed university has taken this a department for pursuing studies on it and publishes papers on this or some university professors publishing papers? Also send references about this as appeared in local newspapers. If it had been declared as a holiday, surely atleast one of the local English newspapers should have reported - Hindu or Indian Express. Balajiviswanathan 00:53, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
- Good, atleast there is a possibility that Vaikundar might be a real person, and atleast one sentence in a newspaper corner says it:). Send us more info about the real links for your grouping - no personal websites and blogs and no site that is caching Misplaced Pages content. If there are no detailed news articles (this is eng wiki, so eng newspapers are needed and for tam articles there is always tam wiki), then nothing more than a cursory article be allowed and anyway all the family of articles and portal have to be remobed. So, if there is enough proof for the existance of the so called "Ayyavazhi", the article on it could be retained and whatever it is, all the rest should go. If there is no significant proof, even that has to be marked for speedy deletion. Balajiviswanathan 01:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
Community bulletin board
The Community bulletin board is NOT the place to have a discussion on religious portals. Take it to Misplaced Pages:Help desk --Tagishsimon (talk)
Misplaced Pages:Mediation
I strongly urge you two to take your dispute to Misplaced Pages:Mediation. You both care about the issue passionately; I cannot see how it will be resolved without damage other than by mediation. --Tagishsimon (talk)
- Okay, specifically, I would take it here: Misplaced Pages:Mediation Cabal and frame it as a question of what is and what is not a religion for wikipedia purposes with respect to portals and categories. Follow their process. --Tagishsimon (talk) 01:52, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
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3RR violation
You have now violated three reverts rule on Tamil people. I will be reporting you for appropriate action. - Parthi 10:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
User notice: temporary 3RR block
Regarding reversions made on December 7 2006 to Tamil people
3RR -- India page
You are in danger of violating the three-revert rule. Please cease further reverts or you may be blocked from editing. =Nichalp «Talk»= 19:09, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Re: Religion in India
I am reducing all of them. Working on Buddhism now. Will attend to the others in the next 24 hours. They are all supposed to be summaries, with the details in the main articles. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:20, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
3RR on India
Hi Paul, you've been reported for a 3RR violation on India and have been blocked for 24 hours. When you return, try to reach a compromise on talk, and please take the time to review the 3RR policy. Cheers, SlimVirgin 00:47, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Paul, did you make this edit? SlimVirgin 08:15, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, but why? When i browse to the article Ayyavazhi(not by signing in) I saw a NPOV tag there in the history section. see there each and every lines are cited with valid sources, but two lines left. So I cited those two lines also. No other edits are made. - Paul 18:08, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Also please see here before proceeding. I've made some comments. Are reverting undiscussed edits with discusiions considered 3RR violations? Also the fourth is not actually a revert, but just an edit as per the discussions - Paul 18:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi
First thing I'm going to do is submit the article for consideration at Misplaced Pages:Good articles/Candidates, and then we can get some formal indication as to what specific weaknesses the article might currently have. Then, once they are addressed, we can try to get the article up to FA status. Regretably, my time for the next day or so will be spent in creating assessment units for the various other religion projects, but I will help to improve the article to the degree that my own probably limited resources and knowledge can. Probably my best ability would be in copyediting (if required) and maybe finding some additional references. But the improvement of articles of this kind is the specific goal of WikiProject Religion, so I hope that the other members who are interested and able to contribute to the article will do so as well. Also, if you yourself know of any other editors who contribute to articles on the subject, we are specifically looking to create dedicated subgroups who might be able to focus their attention on individual faiths, including potentially Ayyavazhi. Like I said, I'm submitting the article for GA consideration now, and that'll let us know how it stands as is. We can tackle the problems that might arise as they come up. Badbilltucker 18:17, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- There might be a problem regarding the number of recent content-related edits, which might indicate that the article is not "stable". That I don't know about. I actually posted the article as a Good Article candidate and find that no one has taken it upon themselves to review it. Generally, that review, when it comes, will probably be better than anything I could do. I am myself still fixing some grammatical errors, but that shouldn't be a problem for consideration. Probably the best thing to do is to wait for the formal review when it does come, which should be at worst early next week. Badbilltucker 18:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Response to your comments on my talk page
Dear friend paul, I have responded to the comments you left for me on my talk page. Sincerely, --BostonMA 20:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Dear friend Paul, I would like to repeat my suggestion that you attempt to restate back to me your understanding of my position. Doing so would give me some hope that we can have a fruitful discussion. Sincerely, --BostonMA 21:00, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Response
Hey sorry, I just now read the previous revisions, you are right, I have reverted myself. Hopefully we can find sources to prove wether or not Ayyavazhi should be included. Sfacets 20:46, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi
Hi Paul, after reading the discussion on Ayyavazhi on your talk page, it seems like a concensus has not yet been reached. Sarayuparin 22:07, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Thangal
Hai I found your long experience in Ayyavazhi works here in wikipeida. I noticed that you are from Kanyakumari. Can you please give informations (list) about some important Thangals in the region west to Thacklay in Kanyakumari District?
I've asked to Vaikunda Raja also. ==> SaffronWhiteGreen 19:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, But presently, Iam concentrating on my studies. So I may have no time to write articles here. But in the midst I'll find time to do atleast something here. I asked the list of Thangals for doing a project in my college.
- Thanks. ==> SaffronWhiteGreen 21:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi article
I see a couple of references in the article that say this year, last year, and the like. These would almost certainly fail the article for GA or FA consideration. Unfortunately, I don't know myself which specific years should be put in. If you could, please place them there yourself. And, for what little it's worth, I have a printout on which I am making some copyedit changes, and look to be making the revisions in the article itself on Monday. Thanks for your patience and assistance. Badbilltucker 16:06, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi article
I removed the article from the good article page because I'm still working on some of the text corrections. With any luck, they'll be finished by Monday. However, I did earlier today note that there is now a kind of "quick dismissal" policy in place with some good article reviewers, and I didn't want the article to be summarily rejected on the basis of some grammatical errors, which I think some of the reviewers might cite as being cause for quick rejection. Sorry for any confusion or questions which it might cause you, but I have seen a few articles have received such speedy dismissal and I didn't want this to be another one. Again, my apologies. Luckily, given the comparatively short list, it should be returned to the list fairly quickly. Also, I think that the peer review process might work better, particularly if we receive a favorable peer review. If that is the case, then it might be possible to nominate it for FA directly, without going through the GA process. Given that a number of people respond to the FA proposals, while it only takes one reviewer to pass or fail a GA, I think our chances are probably more statistically successful with FA than GA. Sorry again for any confusion or distress my action may have caused you. I personally will hopefully have the revisions done by Monday (I work nights here and it's been slow lately; lots of free time available at work) and expect to nominate it for peer review at that time. Again, my apologies for any confusion or distress my action may have caused you. Badbilltucker 18:54, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry again. I too tend to prattle on a lot. And I mean a LOT. I lose track of what I'm saying occasionally myself. Badbilltucker 19:41, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Paul. As you may have already noticed, I've have also copyedited this article for clarity in the English language. For example, I've changed some words that really weren't words to their English counterparts. If this messes up what you are trying to say somehow, please don't hesitate to let me know.
- Truthfully, almost all of the articles that are linked to this one need to be copyedited (see Neetham, for example. I would appreciate it if you could look at the "list" in the morality section and see if you can expand some of the points so that I can turn them back into paragraphs again. Thank you so much for what you are doing. Sincerely, Nina Odell 21:26, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, Paul. I will try my best on all these articles:). have a safe and fun trip! Nina Odell 19:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
- Noted your response, sir. Have had electrical problems for three days which kept me offline, and had a bit of a backlog today to attend to. With any luck at all, further grammatical revisions to article will be done tomorrow afternoon. Badbilltucker 00:43, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response, Paul. I will try my best on all these articles:). have a safe and fun trip! Nina Odell 19:55, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
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You're invited to WikiProject Dravidian Civilizations
Hello and Vanakkam,
I see that you have created the Ayyavazhi marriage and would like to take the opportunity to invite you to join our group. WikiProject Dravidian Civilizations does not actually fall under a single country but several in South Asia. It will also cover everything from religions, ethnicities, history, arts, and more. Your contribution to the Ayyavazhi religion is needed and an important part of the different faiths practiced amongst different Dravidian civilizations. If you are interested in joining this group please log on to Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Dravidian civilizations and post your name under the Members section. I look forward to hearing from you. Much regards. Wiki Raja 09:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
RE: Iv'e joined
Thank you for joining. The answer two your question is that Dravidian is a term for a family of related ethnicities and languages. Just like Indo-Aryan is a term for a family of related ethnicities and languages. Also, regarding the term race, I prefer to use the term ethnicity in its place. Since, in my opinion, there is one race (species) which is the human race. Regards. Wiki Raja 20:16, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Also, comparing with European civilizations, we have the Italians, Spanish, French, etc. Once again, thanks for joining. Wiki Raja 20:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Undue Weight
Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Thank you for your contributions. As a member of the Misplaced Pages community, I would like to remind you of Misplaced Pages's neutral-point-of-view policy for editors which you appear to have violated at India. In particular, please read the section of the policy related to Undue Weight. "An article should not give undue weight to any aspects of the subject, but should strive to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject." In the meantime, please be bold and continue contributing to Misplaced Pages.
- Paul, in a list of religions of India, Ayyavazhi is not more notable than Jews or Zoroastrians. If you look at lists of religions of India, for example the census, or literally thousands of books on the religions of India, Ayyavazhi is rarely mentioned. Misplaced Pages gives weight according to the weight given by experts in the particular field of interest. Please do not continue to make contentious edits on the India page without consensus of other editors of the India page. It is disruptive. Sincerely, --BostonMA 22:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- What I am saying is that Misplaced Pages gives weight according to the weight given by experts in the particular field of interest. When making a list of religions of India, we give weight according to the weight given by experts in religions of India. Of the lists of the religions of India that have been drawn up by experts, the vast majority of these, and the most authoritative ones, do not list Ayyavazhi. --BostonMA 22:34, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Does your book even list the religions of India? If so, what religions does it list? If it does give a list of religions of India, and I don't mean merely mention various religions in separate places, then I would consider it to be one of the views of experts on the religions of India. However, we don't give weight according to what one expert might say, but give weight according to the weight found among all experts in the field of interest. --BostonMA 22:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
- Paul, we are not debating the factual existence of Ayyavazhi. We are discussing the notability of Ayyavazhi. So please stop repeating your arguments about the existence of Ayyavazhi. The census of India reports state that when individuals have been asked to identify their religion, they have given something close to 1500 different answers. An overview article on India should not contain a list of 1500 different beliefs. We must limit our list to the most notable and describe the remaining beliefs as "others". Which beliefs are the most notable? We decide that by looking at the reputable sources. All of the reputable sources, and not merely a single book. It is not even clear to me that that the single book upon which you place so much weight even lists the most notable religions of India. If so, the book even if completely factual, would not do us any good for determining which beliefs should be in the list of religions in the India article. Sincerely, --BostonMA 02:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
You placed a note on the administrators' noticeboard because you're not getting your way in a content dispute. If you have a reason for administrator action, let's hear it. At this point, I do not see any reason for an admin to get involved. Try dispute resolution if you're having trouble. | Mr. Darcy talk 20:39, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- The revert of your edit was completely appropriate. I don't see valid sources. You need to either find better sources, convince other editors that your sources are valid, or drop the matter entirely. | Mr. Darcy talk 22:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Blocked
I've blocked you 24 hours for your ceaseless edit-warring, and for the fact that you reverted India four times in just over 24 hours (24:11, to be precise). While that's not a technical vio, the purpose of the 3RR policy is to discourage edit-warring. You clearly aren't getting that message, so take a day to cool off and consider why so many users are opposed to your actions. | Mr. Darcy talk 22:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- The block is explained above. You were blocked for edit-warring, and for violating the spirit of 3RR if not the letter. Waiting until a few minutes after the 24-hour period has expired to revert again is still blatant edit-warring and will get you blocked. I hope that the time off has given you a chance to reconsider your editing strategy. | Mr. Darcy talk 23:30, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi article
I regret to say that I am still tied up in trying to as it were assign all the religion articles to the appropriate projects, if any, which is probably at this point a more pressing concern, as I am finding that most of the religion articles have yet to be "tagged" by any projects, so they don't even necessarily know that they are there. It is my hope that the League of Copyeditors who have been called in can assist more quickly. Badbilltucker 22:31, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Your edits to my user talk page
I have replied to your edits to my user talk page.--Indianstar 05:52, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Your edits to User Talk:Navou
I have replied. Navou 22:40, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
your request
I don't have time to take on another large project and do it justice. I looked at the article in question and, on first impression, feel that there are too many links in it to make it inviting to read -- especially in the introductory paragraph. If this aspect were worked on, I feel it would make the article more attractive. --JAXHERE | 13:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- Paul, there was no distubance. The article you have proposed might need a lot of time to do a good job and I don't want to make that kind of committment with all the other things I have pending. The suggestion I made was just a first impression as a result of a quick glance. Any how, good luck with your project. --JAXHERE | 13:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
My comments
Kindly address my comments on AV talk page. --Blacksun 14:53, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi as a separate religion
Do you have any web resources which states Ayyavazhi as a separate religion? Google search about Ayyavazhi returns only wikipedia and other wikimedia project resources.(Most of them were created by you.) Is there any large scale surveys taken in Tamilnadu states Ayyavazhi as a separate religion? Do you have access to such survey reports? (Apart from books and university papers) --Indianstar 16:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I have following suggestions to you. Please don't update about Ayyavazhi religion in non Ayyavazhi related articles till others get convinced that Ayyavazhi is a separate religion.(Till wikipedia community accepts evidences as credible one.) This will help to avoid edit wars. You can improve Ayyavazhi related articles till such time. Following questions need to be answered to establish that Ayyavazhi is a separate religion.
- 1)What prompted Ayyavazhi followers to declare themselves as Hindus in census and other Government surveys?.
- 2) How information about Ayyavazhi is totally missing in web. If Ayyavazhi has millions of followers, how it does not find any mention even in news articles of "The Hindu" Tamilnadu editions. (Its news papers for last 5-6 years are available in web).
- 3) Loyola college,chennai regularly conducts surveys through out Tamilnadu(atleast once in six months) about various socio-economic factors of Tamilnadu. Why Ayyavazhi does not find any mention in their surveys?.
- Tamil daily Dinamalar/Daily thanthi editions are also available in Internet. Please let me know whether Dinamalar/Daily thanthi has covered about Ayyavazhi with edition dates in which Ayyavazhi related articles are appearing. --Indianstar 11:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC).
- Can you send dates/pages of Dinamalar editions which covered about Ayyavazhi. I am not questioning about existence of Ayyavazhi sect. I am looking for few news coverages which says Ayyavazhi as a separate religion. Social and economical infrastructure of North eastern states are worser than 3 districts pointed out by you in Tamilnadu. But census was able to identify minor religions in those areas. Infact those three districts have higher literacy percentage compared to North Tamilnadu. More than 1 year news papers of Dinamalar are available in web.--Indianstar 10:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- Please post Daily thanthi and Dinakaran editions dates and pages in which news articles are appearing. I am only looking for news coverages which could be used as a credible evidence to prove that Ayyavazhi is a separate religion. --Indianstar 16:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
- As I have mentioned a number of times, the wikipedia community will not oppose the existence of the numerous Ayyavazhi articles if the citations for the indepent religion and the number of followers are verified. However inserting links to numerous other pages however remotely related to religion will not be accepted as it will give undue weight to a minor religion over other sects/religions of the world. Parthi 21:41, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Please post Daily thanthi and Dinakaran editions dates and pages in which news articles are appearing. I am only looking for news coverages which could be used as a credible evidence to prove that Ayyavazhi is a separate religion. --Indianstar 16:02, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
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Nizal Thangals
Paul, I've asked you some days before to help me in getting the list of Important(Old) Thangals west to Thucklay. Can you help. Only two months to go for the date by which I've to complete my project. So if you can please speed up.
And wish U a happy Vaikunda Avatharam. Thanks ==> SaffronWhiteGreen 16:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Ayyavazhi POV
I have modified lead of Ayyavazhi to bring article out of POV. Pl give your opinion on article's Talk page.--Indianstar 06:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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