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RfC: Should we replace Infobox settlement with Infobox Indian state or territory in Indian states and union territories pages ?

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Should we replace Infobox settlement with Infobox Indian state or territory in Indian states and union territories pages ?

As India is a federal state ( arguably quasi-federal ), Indian states and union territories should have a wrapper for infobox which represents the democratic individuality, distribution of power and authority as well as the demographic, economic and political features of the division.

This infobox is customised for Indian states and union territories. It gives more specific, constant, described  and dedicated information about the federal subjects and union territories.

Template:Infobox Indian state or territory Tojoroy20 (talk) 20:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)

• Unless I'm sorely missing something, this makes sense, since an entire state/territory is not a "settlement" (a town/city).  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  22:17, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
• Why? What does the wrapper do? There is no explanation here or at the documentation as to what the changes are, and as to why they necessitate using other code to call what is in the end infobox settlement anyway. CMD (talk) 01:54, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

@CMD, Thanks! for your comment.

Things that are changed and more usable ( I think ):-

> State legislative assembly, Legislative council and national Parliament's type , name and total number of seats, are added (more describe) and already Wikilinked.

> More description and specific information on joining or formation dates and events.

> Symbols of state are now customly added, which makes it very easy to provide or add the values.

> Assembly seal, largest metropolitan area, parameters for whether the capital and largest city are the same, Coastline, HDI, Literacy and sex ratio with their year , rank and values are added. It suggested adding and providing the values in all uses.

> As per the vast diversity of states and territories, it leaves some space to add other particular information.

> The wrapper has many other small changes which make it more usable for INDIAN states and territories.

> Also, it provides a similarity as well as an appearance among the Indian states and union territories. Tojoroy20 (talk) 07:54, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Is an RFC necessary for this? Only 36 pages would be affected, wouldn’t it? Perhaps can you create a sandbox for a state, that'd be useful — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:41, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

Okay.. 36+ (as there are defunct ones like Andhra Pradesh (1956–2014) etc) but still very low numbers — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:44, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

@DaxServer, I Appreciate your comment. But I don't understand exactly what you mean. Whether the infobox settlement should be replaced, there was no need for RFC, or there is no difference between replacing or not replacing.

It's not about 36 or 360, it's about how major the change is and its impact ( more or less ) Tojoroy20 (talk) 22:16, 25 January 2023 (UTC)

• Per SMcCandlish above, I do not see a formidable obstacle. An example might help to assess the magnitude of the change and its impact. · · · Peter Southwood : 08:57, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

  @ Peter Southwood,You are correct that having an example can help to better understand the magnitude of the change and its potential impact. It maybe can provide a visual representation of the change and it can help us to determine if there are any unforeseen challenges that need to be addressed. I will make sure to provide an example in the documentation subpage, to assist in the assessment process.

  - Thanks for your suggestions, stand by. Tojoroy20 (talk) 15:20, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

Uttarakhand

Over 300 articles use the spelling "Uttrakhand" (missing A). Is this a valid alternative spelling, or do they need to be corrected? Certes (talk) 00:10, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, this is not a typo, but a spelling that is probably somewhat reflective of the Hindi pronunciation. I don't know how acceptable it is in Indian English, but I believe it should be avoided on Misplaced Pages, because it may be confusing for international readers. Still, I would like to hear what others think. This issue isn't confined to the spelling of Uttarakhand though, it's a wider phenomenon, which for example also gives variants like Gujarati/Gujrati.

I'm not sure if mass replacement will be a good idea: in my experience, this spelling on Misplaced Pages is usually a hallmark of hastily (and often sloppily) written text, so there's a case for keeping it as an indicator of potentially problematic content. – Uanfala (talk) 12:03, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, agreed that it should be avoided. Also agree that a mass replacement is not necessary because we have a redirect from Uttrakhand. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:39, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your replies. The links via redirect Uttrakhand can be seen as NOTBROKEN, but I was more interested in the displayed spelling, whether in a wikilink or as plain text. The large number of appearances suggests that it may be an acceptable spelling; if so then I'll leave it and move on to the many other, more clear-cut typos. Certes (talk) 13:47, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

FAR

Nathu La has been nominated for a featured article review, please see here Misplaced Pages:Featured article review/Nathu La/archive1 Desertarun (talk) 10:02, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Ik Jind Ik Jaan#Requested move 20 January 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Ik Jind Ik Jaan#Requested move 20 January 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 16:21, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Category:Government Polytechnics of Odisha has been nominated for renaming

Category:Government Polytechnics of Odisha has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. This nomination also includes categories of "Government polytechnics in Uttar Pradesh", "Polytechnic colleges in Karnataka", and "Polytechnic colleges in West Bengal" to bring them in line with the parent category Category:Technical universities and colleges in India. Please help me figure out if this is the right course of action. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Hoshangabad#Requested move 5 February 2023

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Hoshangabad#Requested move 5 February 2023 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:06, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Kalash people‎

Could someone take a look at this article? There is a low grade edit war in progress as to whether the Kalash are Indian or Indo-Aryan people and I can't figure out which one is correct. --RegentsPark (comment) 13:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Let me have a look! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 18:55, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

They are Indo-Aryan people, not at all Indian! Ekdalian (talk) 19:10, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Hello RegentsPark, since the article is now a part of my Watchlist, I shall monitor the changes. Thanks! Ekdalian (talk) 08:18, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Sarayu river

Can anyone take a look at Sarayu - apparently there is confusion over what exactly "Sarayu" river refers to, and the article is largely an unsourced mess. utcursch | talk 09:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

The actual page of the river is Sarju. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:59, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

The Sarju page is much newer (2016) than the Sarayu page (2005), so Sarju is the fork. CMD (talk) 12:06, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Yes, you are right. But in terms of the content, it is the other way around. Sarju is a proper geographical article, while the old "Sarayu" page didn't know what it was talking about. (Well, it is mythology and tradition, but even that wasn't sourced to any reasonable extent.) -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

POV editing at articles involving India/Pakistan issues

I've reverted these 3 contributions by new user XI8Z (talk · contribs) at List of administrative units of Pakistan by Human Development Index and List of Indian states and union territories by Human Development Index. I don't have time to deal with this right now, can someone monitor and do what's needed? Please don't bite, and AGF, but if this is a SPA/RGW account then we have to be vigilant and act accordingly. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 08:58, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

There is a wider problem here, which is that very many users use maps produced by the Indian government (or the Pakistani government, which is equally troublesome but less frequent) rather than ones reflecting internationally accepted boundaries; that makes revert the first of such edits difficult, because while an inaccurate map is better than none, you're still reverting to an inaccurate version. I can't help but feel we need wider standards here, similar to what we apply on Kashmir-related maps; but I certainly don't have the stomach for starting it. Vanamonde (Talk) 22:27, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Good point; and extending that, iirc Commons has no (or fewer/different kind) of reliability/NPOV policies, and I think you can upload pretty much whatever you want. Not sure how to address that here, but seems like it is a factor. As for reverting to an inaccurate map, that's no better; maybe we just shouldn't have a map then; or at least, not until we an find or create a better one. One doesn't need map skills; the WP:Graphics lab is an excellent resource, and can help come up with new maps upon request (within the contraints of availability and volunteer editing there, as everywhere on the project) so if you know what kind of map is needed, just formulate a request there, and it may well be fulfilled. Mathglot (talk) 23:09, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Infobox

Since it seems like this project has a pretty cool infobox, could anyone share the code with me of how you guys made the collapsed tabs like workgroups because I am currently a member of an inactive project which I would like to revive and a good infobox is a great way to start. I just need the code and I am not so at it, I tried looking at the source text but it gave me a migraine so hopefully one of you can help me out Crainsaw (talk) 22:06, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Can you link the box you are talking about? Mathglot (talk) 23:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

RSN RfC on reliability of The Wire

There is an ongoing RfC on the reliable sources noticeboard regarding The Wire. If you are interested, please participate at WP:RSN § RfC: The Wire (India). Tayi Arajakate _Talk 14:03, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

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