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== NPOV issues on ] ==

Hi Mooonswimmer -- sorry if I'm not going about this the right way, I'm pretty new to editing Misplaced Pages beyond minor stuff. Right now, the lede of ] reads, "Israeli settlements, or Israeli colonies". This appears to me (and others) as an NPOV violation. However, as you can see from ], there are some users who are adamant on keeping it. I can summarize the arguments for you if you want, but I think the issue needs another set of more neutral eyes. Maybe it's appropriate to escalate this to mediation, but I'm not sure this is right for that -- especially because I'm not even an established-enough editor to make the change (removing "or Israeli colonies", perhaps replacing it with a line later in the article regarding the fact that some consider the settlements to be such, and perhaps adding the Hebrew term התנחלות). So, I thought I would reach out to another editor. I found you through the ]. ] (]) 04:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

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User:Rathfelder

Mooonswimmer, I've noticed that quite a few of you deletion nominations over the last few weeks have been of articles created by Rathfelder. Is this just a strange coincidence or is there a reason for this? Phil Bridger (talk) 21:13, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello @Phil Bridger, no specific reason. I'm trying to become more active on AfD. No particular interest in the subject matter, and nothing at all against @Rathfelder.
Today's focus of mine was non-notable comic book publishing companies, and I nominated at least a dozen articles on comic publishers for deletion. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of these were created by the same editor, but it's nothing personal. I often don't pay much attention to who created an article. Considering you're someone very active in deletion discussions, I'd be immensefully grateful if you could lend me your opinion regarding the aforementioned nominations to know if I'm on the right track when it comes to gauging notability and encyclopedic value.
On the other hand, I also nominated an article regarding a restaurant for deletion after spending quite some time reading Misplaced Pages talkpages regarding notability and restaurants. I have just noticed the creator of the article is an extremely accomplished and reputable contributor, and I was wondering if my nomination is unwarranted and improper. I'd be interested in hearing what you'd have to say regarding what makes a restaurant notable, as well as what you think in this specific case. Thank you for your time. Mooonswimmer 21:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
Mooonswimmer, I would ask you to not nominate articles for deletion if you're 1) not completing source assessments prior to nominating and/or 2) not familiar with notability criteria. I know you mean well, but "rescuing" articles during AfD feels like an uphill battle, so expressing your concerns by placing a tag or posting a note on a talk page is sometimes a helpful alternative. Thanks and happy editing! ---Another Believer (Talk) 00:38, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Paid jobs

Hi Mooonswimmer. Thanks for adding this section, but I fear this is incomplete. Per WP:PAID, you've to link to all the marketplaces where you advertise. I can see you have accepted five jobs on Upwork and have participated in a few AfDs for pay. I suggest you to follow User:Bleff userpage as an example and at least link to Upwork profile. I hope you can do this yourself or I would be sending the link to Arbcom and this may result in an indefinite block. Also, WP:COI should use WP:AfC process for new articles and for edting use talkpage to place Misplaced Pages:Edit requests. Thank you. 108.197.34.118 (talk) 08:07, 6 January 2023 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

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Copying within Misplaced Pages requires attribution (second request)

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Hello @Diannaa,
It slipped my mind this time, my apologies. I included an attribution in the subsequent summary once I had realized my mistake. What do we consider to be extensive copying? Would the paragraph I copied be considered as such? Also, I tried adding the {copied} template, but I'm confused at how to fill in the "from_oldid" field. Thank you! Mooonswimmer 00:07, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Sorry, I missed the attribution edit summary! But your question about the attribution template is a good one. For a single parapgraph, I wouldn't feel the copied template is necessary. Here's an example of a filled-out copied template (notice that this example is a streamlined version that does not include the from_oldid field):
{{Copied
|from       = Machiavellianism
|to         = Machiavellianism scale
|to_diff    = 915516903
|date       = September 13, 2019
}}

This gives the following result:

Text and/or other creative content from Machiavellianism was copied or moved into Machiavellianism scale with this edit on September 13, 2019. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

For the Gag order edit the to_diff number would be 1134052407. If using the oldid field, it's the version number of the revision from which you obtained the text. In case you don't know, the diff number is obtained from the url of the edit where you added the content to the destination article. For more info on diffs, please see help:Diff. — Diannaa (talk) 00:32, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Robbie Knievel

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ITN recognition for David Onley

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IEEE fellows

I have removed the notability tag on the page Farhan Baqai as IEEE members are explicitly stated as being notable per WP:NACADEMIC. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 18:38, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

Justifiably so, I ignored my impulse to look into IEEE and notability and instead relied on GNG. My bad! Mooonswimmer 18:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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synagogue attack

five men and two men? Selfstudier (talk) 23:35, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Oops, thanks for pointing it out. Mooonswimmer 23:43, 27 January 2023 (UTC)

Hi. Could you please add the following template below the {Reflist} of that article?:

2010s Prominent terrorist attacks against Israelis in the 2020s
2021
2022
2023
2024
  Attacks launched by Palestinians from the West Bank   Attacks launched by Palestinians from the Gaza Strip   Attacks launched from Egypt   Attacks carried out by Arab citizens of Israel
‡ indicates the attack which caused the greatest number of Israeli casualties

ThanksTFM16 (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Titewhai Harawira

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Your draft article, Draft:Extraordinary Birder

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NPOV issues on Israeli settlement

Hi Mooonswimmer -- sorry if I'm not going about this the right way, I'm pretty new to editing Misplaced Pages beyond minor stuff. Right now, the lede of Israeli settlement reads, "Israeli settlements, or Israeli colonies". This appears to me (and others) as an NPOV violation. However, as you can see from the talk page, there are some users who are adamant on keeping it. I can summarize the arguments for you if you want, but I think the issue needs another set of more neutral eyes. Maybe it's appropriate to escalate this to mediation, but I'm not sure this is right for that -- especially because I'm not even an established-enough editor to make the change (removing "or Israeli colonies", perhaps replacing it with a line later in the article regarding the fact that some consider the settlements to be such, and perhaps adding the Hebrew term התנחלות). So, I thought I would reach out to another editor. I found you through the Israel-Palestine Collaboration WikiProject. Peaux (talk) 04:15, 23 February 2023 (UTC)