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{{ping|Bruxton|Andrew Davidson|Tintor2}}, the hook says "that the ''']''' were first named after a ]", while the text says that "Fans believed the name was chosen because of the team's elevated location in Upper Manhattan, or as a nod to team president Joseph Gordon's Scottish-Irish heritage (the ] were a well known Scottish military unit).<ref>{{Cite news |last=Lamb |first=Bill |title=Joseph Gordon |work=] |url=https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/joseph-gordon/ |access-date=July 5, 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220319044610/https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/joseph-gordon/ |archive-date=March 19, 2022}}</ref><ref name="Appel 2012">{{Cite book |last=Appel |first=Marty |title=Pinstripe Empire: The New York Yankees From Before the Babe to After the Boss |publisher=] |year=2012 |isbn=9781608194926 |language=en |author-link=Marty Appel}}</ref>{{rp|pages=18}}" I think the hook should be tweaked or replaced as it is oversimplified: it changes "Fans believed" into a statement of fact and two alternatives into one. ] (]) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC) {{ping|Bruxton|Andrew Davidson|Tintor2}}, the hook says "that the ''']''' were first named after a ]", while the text says that "Fans believed the name was chosen because of the team's elevated location in Upper Manhattan, or as a nod to team president Joseph Gordon's Scottish-Irish heritage (the ] were a well known Scottish military unit).<ref>{{Cite news |last=Lamb |first=Bill |title=Joseph Gordon |work=] |url=https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/joseph-gordon/ |access-date=July 5, 2022 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220319044610/https://sabr.org/bioproj/person/joseph-gordon/ |archive-date=March 19, 2022}}</ref><ref name="Appel 2012">{{Cite book |last=Appel |first=Marty |title=Pinstripe Empire: The New York Yankees From Before the Babe to After the Boss |publisher=] |year=2012 |isbn=9781608194926 |language=en |author-link=Marty Appel}}</ref>{{rp|pages=18}}" I think the hook should be tweaked or replaced as it is oversimplified: it changes "Fans believed" into a statement of fact and two alternatives into one. ] (]) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

:The Highlanders <u>name</u> was clearly taken from the regiment. It's a play on words as it alludes to both the owner and the elevation. And that's not a fan nickname -- it was the team's official name. See . Putting all the elements in the hook would be too complex as it's supposed to be a hook, not an elaborate explanation. ]🐉(]) 09:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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Edit Request: MLB London Series 2019

Could something be added to mention that the Yankees and the Red Sox played the inaugural 2019 MLB London Series in July 2019? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.102.219.141 (talk) 15:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk18:53, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Improved to Good Article status by LuK3 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 28 January 2023 (UTC). Note: As of October 2022, all changes made to promoted hooks will be logged by a bot. The log for this nomination can be found at Template talk:Did you know nominations/New York Yankees, so please watch a successfully closed nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.

  • The hook is strong.
  • The lead should be revised to carry the main ports needed for introduction and remove references per WP:Lead. Maybe the last paragraph could be merged or deleted.
  • I'd recommend removing common wikilinks like treasurer and repeated links like Yankees. I know there are different years but the wikilink makes look like the same. How about specifying the link like how movie links often offer the year?
  • Can there be a general reference for the section "Roster". No need for all.

That's all. It sure is a big article so making it GA should have been difficult. I'd recommend splitting big parts in the future to make it easier to navigate.Tintor2 (talk) 22:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the New York Yankees grounds crew began dancing to "Y.M.C.A." after a team executive spotted fans doing the same during a spring training game?
ALT2: ... that Mike Royko described hating the New York Yankees as "as American as pizza pie, unwed mothers, and cheating on your income tax"?
@Sammi Brie: I kinda approve ALT 1.Tintor2 (talk) 01:50, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
I would agree with Tintor2 above. I could not find the Royko article where he says that quote. -- LuK3 (Talk) 12:29, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
  • I agree that the first hook is weak. Here's a couple more ALTs for consideration:
ALT3: ... that the New York Yankees were created from the remains of the Baltimore Orioles?
ALT4: ... that the New York Yankees were first named after a Scottish regiment?
And what about a picture? An article isn't really good without a good picture. Perhaps it could be a picture of Hilltop Park (right), with a hook about the Highlander name?
Andrew🐉(talk) 22:35, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

ALT3: is a strong hook.

  • It had its readable prose expanded at least fivefold
  • "Articles must contain at least 1,500 characters of readable prose." This article passes such guideline. Still the size is kinda ridiculous I suggest again splitting it into subarticles to make it easier to nagivate.
  • It is also a good article.
  • It posses citations everywhere properly.
  • It's neutral and I can't see any copyright violation. If I missed something feel free to tell me. I'll say it again though. The article needs to be splitted into subarticles so that the weight it has doesn't make it hard to navigate.Tintor2 (talk) 20:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

@Bruxton, Andrew Davidson, and Tintor2:, the hook says "that the New York Yankees were first named after a Scottish regiment", while the text says that "Fans believed the name was chosen because of the team's elevated location in Upper Manhattan, or as a nod to team president Joseph Gordon's Scottish-Irish heritage (the Gordon Highlanders were a well known Scottish military unit)." I think the hook should be tweaked or replaced as it is oversimplified: it changes "Fans believed" into a statement of fact and two alternatives into one. TSventon (talk) 08:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

The Highlanders name was clearly taken from the regiment. It's a play on words as it alludes to both the owner and the elevation. And that's not a fan nickname -- it was the team's official name. See Before They Were Yankees. Putting all the elements in the hook would be too complex as it's supposed to be a hook, not an elaborate explanation. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:21, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

References

  1. Lamb, Bill. "Joseph Gordon". Society for American Baseball Research. Archived from the original on March 19, 2022. Retrieved July 5, 2022.
  2. Appel, Marty (2012). Pinstripe Empire: The New York Yankees From Before the Babe to After the Boss. Bloomsbury Publishing. ISBN 9781608194926.
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