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Environmental protective coatings (talk · contribs)

Promotes a company or product, see this. RJASE1 21:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Another company already? Disallow. Acalamari 21:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow - Company name-- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 21:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• This one seems iffy to me. It's the name of a company, but also a common phrase, and there aren't any edits to provide an indication one way or the other. -Hit bull, win steak 21:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow in lieu of any evidence that the name is intended to be a business. With no edit history, it's hard to see how the assumption was immediately reached that this must be a business name. A business can be created to sell any noun, forbidding all usernames that contain nouns for this reason doesn't follow. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 21:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow Not clear. If there was an "Inc" for this phrase, it would be completely obvious. We should just wait until the promotional editing begins (if it does). The Behnam 21:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment - trying a new tactic to head off spammers before they create a bunch of spam that we have to clean up. If their username is blocked right off the bat, maybe they'll get the point before polluting Misplaced Pages with their spam. RJASE1 21:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow I cannot assume that a user seriously suggests anything else than the company linked by RJASE1. Who would call themselves "Environmental protective coating" and for what other reason? There is a logical limit to WP:AGF. NikoSilver 22:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow - company name. *sigh* - Alison 22:49, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow -Company name. --TeckWiz Contribs_@ 23:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow as an obvious company name (C'mon, if it were User:geocultural navy inflammation it would be not be 'mistakenly' thought to be a company, but when the above user name "just happens" to pop up as first hit in Google...? C'mon!) Shenme 01:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow The username is specific enough to suggest that it is indeed a company name. ShadowHalo 01:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Jesusfreak1277 (talk · contribs)

Another religious figure name for review. RJASE1 21:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Give option to rename - There is strong precedent disallowing this username. Even though the name of a popular song by the christian rock band DC talk, previous discussion has always yelded a disallow consensus. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 21:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - there is nothing in this username which detracts from the value of the encyclopedia. Are we to disallow someone to speak their religion, but allow usernames which clear sexual references like Hentai Jeff (talk · contribs). I just don't get it. Patstuart 21:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - I dont remeber that in the policies? Yes, it may seem conterproductive however here is where we judge a username on its appropriateness in relation to WP:U. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 21:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment - Usernames that refer to or imply sexual acts, genitalia, or sexual orientation including slang, innuendo, and double entendre. Is there something unclear about this one? For some reason, we disallow this name (which doesn't violate WP:U whatsoever, how I'm reading it), whereas the latter one did. Patstuart 21:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
      • We have recently decided that "Jesusfreak" is not good, although there is definitely some evidence that it is used in a positive way by Christians. It wouldn't make much sense now to go against that. As far as Hentai Jeff goes, well, I agree that it was a travesty. You will find that one of the weaknesses of this board is the tendency for people to insist upon far-fetched apologetic alternatives instead of the obvious offensive references this board is supposed to halt. The Behnam 21:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
        • I couldn't agree more. I'm rather of the impression that people on this board have an anti-religious bias (I would not think as much, except that they allow clearly offensive usernames like Hentai Jeff). Patstuart 21:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
          • Guess what, Pat. I voted to allow Hentai Jeff (talk · contribs) and Dvoted2christ (talk · contribs). Yesterday, I voted to disallow Gutjesus (talk · contribs) so there goes that theory - Alison 22:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC) (religious but not Christian)
            • I wasn't talking about you. I was talking about users who allowed Hentai but disallowed Dvoted2christ. Please, I wasn't attacking you personally. Patstuart 22:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow. Names expressing a religious/sexual preference (of whatever nature) are unnecessarily controversial, and likely to cause problems. -Hit bull, win steak 21:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• WP:U does not say that at all. It says religious usernames are open to interpretation. What it says is if they're offensive (i.e., User:ChristWasABastard) or a clear godhead (i.e., confusing, WP:Allah), don't allow it. Patstuart 21:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• I should also note that other similar names, including "Jesusfreak" (an established contributor) and "Jesusfreak 07" have been username blocked in the past. -Hit bull, win steak 21:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Disallow Religious-based username: past "Jesusfreaks" have been blocked, so this user, if nothing else, should be blocked for having a name too similar to a ton of other users. Acalamari 21:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow, unlike Dvoted2Christ above, this one can be misinterpreted or sound offensive to some. NikoSilver 22:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow not offensive, to me anyway. Nardman1 22:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow per all above.Proabivouac 22:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow just like the last 5 times, come on guys. _InBC 22:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • As said below very well, precedent is not a good argument when they were based on questionable thinking. Hope that clears things up. :) Patstuart 00:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Abstain. I personally don't see much of a problem with this username, as I indicated when the previous Jesusfreak was brought up here. But we can't disallow Jesusfreak12 (talk · contribs), Jesusfreak (talk · contribs), Jesusfreek2 (talk · contribs), Jesus freak 2334 (talk · contribs) and Jesus freak 777 316 (talk · contribs), and allow this one. Precedents can be a pain in the arse, but arbitrariness and inconsistency are even worse. Aecis 22:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow on the basis that the usage here is not offensive (to me), and does not violate WP:U, "Usernames of religious figures .... Usernames partly comprised of these terms are not always necessarily prohibited but may be subject to review." . User:Jesus is a freak would be offensive. And bringing Hentai Jeff into this argument/discussion is irrelevant. Regards, Flyguy649_contribs 23:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow precedent is not a good argument when they were based on questionable thinking. I went to school with someone who quite proudly declaimed he was a Jesus Freak, and was studying to be a minister. Policy says "Misplaced Pages recommends that users avoid ..." and "... so take care to avoid anything that might cause offence ...", but how broadly are we to draw the border around 'might'? User:Jesusfrkgurl is not okay, but User:Muhammed is? When reviewing a list of questionable names, that are still unblocked, I was struck by one distinguishing characteristic of those 'questionable' users - they hadn't done anything wrong. User:Jesusfanatic60 and User:Jesusforlife7 aren't blocked. User:Shia-in-ny isn't blocked and surely that is just as controversial. I'm just seeing this more and more as arbitrary. Shenme 23:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Weak allow. I'm a Christian and it doesn't offend me; I know some Christians who are happy to describe themselves as "Jesus freaks" as a sort of mildly self-deprecatory statement. Is there anybody who states they themselves were offended by this sort of name? I am disturbed by the precedent; perhaps previous users who have been blocked should be unblocked and allowed to rename, although that discussion shouldn't happen here. By the way, Muhammed is a very common first name and not necessarily a reference to the Prophet. Sam Blacketer 23:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, indeed, who says this isn't some girl smitten with her boyfriend, Jesus? Shenme 23:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

In religious issues personally I tend to side with those who may be "offended". I understand you may not, but the possibility that some may, is IMO not worth the risk. NikoSilver 23:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

See Jesus freak: originally pejorative: However, some Christians now consider it a reclaimed word, as some Christians, especially Christian youth, occasionally use it as a positive term to let others know that they are not ashamed of their beliefs. See especially Jesus Freak (disambiguation), where all the senses are positive. Now, if the editor starts to edit with an anti-Christian bias, that's one thing, but if not, it's probably positive. Patstuart 00:06, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I know, I had read it. The problem IMO is that it still may be perceived offensive (by another ..."Jesus freak" who simply doesn't know the recent terminology). I find this number of people more important than the user's right to keep that name. I also believe that the community certainly doesn't need the possible negative reactions. "Probably positive" IMO is not enough. Finally, I respect precedents, as I feel that they save the community's time and effort. NikoSilver 00:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• Disallow as has been done with so many others. Kukini 00:08, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow, religious-based username. --Sam Blanning 00:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow on sight to many users it will mean Jesus is a freak Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 01:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment If it is religious it can't be used, is that right? Then User:Godislove is 'bad'? Look, please tell me you object based on the idea it might offend - it is really hard to hear you say you object because it is religiously based. That does sound anti-religious. We'll be throwing out a lot of usernames. Shenme 01:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow based on previous consensus regarding "Jesus Freak" names. We don't have to relitigate every new variation on this theme. --Ginkgo100 02:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

SatanSanta (talk · contribs)

For review - contains the name of 1 1/2 religious figures. RJASE1 22:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

• Disallow - clever though, had never noticed the possible spoonerism. NikoSilver 22:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow quite a comical name and unlikely to offend (except maybe santa of course) Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 22:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • ...or satan! NikoSilver 22:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Perhaps it could offend, oh I don't know, Christians? _InBC 00:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

    I'm a christian and it certainly doesn't offend me Ryanpostlethwaite contribs/talk 00:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

    Neither me. IMO it may offend some others, since it combines a Saint (children's favorite too) with the Satan. I cannot safely assume that we are not better off without it. NikoSilver 00:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - uh oh - Satan gets through but Jesus gets blocked. RJASE1 22:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow - Trivialization of Satan, a figure important to Abrahamic religions. The Behnam 22:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow If Jesus and God get blocked, so should Satan; and vice versa. Acalamari 22:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow or get cracking, a few hundred unblocked users right here that start with Satan. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 22:47, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • That argument is akin to telling a cop, "You can't give me a speeding ticket unless you give one to everyone else who was speeding on this highway." Besides, there is more than the mere presence of the religious name "Satan"; it's the combination with a name referencing a religous holiday. If any of the other "Satan" names bothers someone, they can bring it here to be discussed. --Ginkgo100 02:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow - Nothing patently offensive about it. Perhaps a reference to that movie where Satan was... well... evil. Patstuart 23:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow - The day we block Jesus and allow Satan is the day we'll all burn in Hell. // DecaimientoPoético 23:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I second that. Double standards is an evil practice. NikoSilver 00:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Please clarify, are you stating that Misplaced Pages shall make policy respecting a religious establishment? The WP:U policies regarding religious names have to do with avoiding usernames "which may offend other people's belief", specifically a muslim would be offended by a user named AllahSucks or a Christian would be offended by JesusFreak (apparently). Is there an assertion that satanists would be offended by SatanSanta? Otherwise, you're saying that christian users have an authority over others and that their wishes should be reflected by official policy. Ridiculous. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 00:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Who, me? // DecaimientoPoético 00:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
      • Yes, you seem to be suggesting that your religious prerogative should overcome policy. If that's not accurate, please clarify. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 00:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
        • My comment was just to lighten the mood a bit (I guess that didn't turn out so well). Let me rephrase it then: If we block JesusFreak on the grounds that it includes the name of a religious figure (at least, I think that's why they were blocked), then SatanSanta should be blocked for the same reason. And for future reference, I'm Athiest. // DecaimientoPoético 00:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
          • Hafta say - I laughed here when I read that comment :) - Alison 00:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Actually Chairboy, we disallow things in usernames that we would allow anywhere, a username the will clearly offend a group can be disallowed on that basis. _InBC 00:20, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
      • As the use of computers by females is prohibited in many Islamic countries and considered offensive, the corollary to your specific assertion above is to disallow all Misplaced Pages usernames that sound female or are identified as such. I don't think that's an appropriate response to the high target of offending any group, and I suspect you don't either. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 00:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
        • Chairboy, let's avoid using straw men, shall we? Aecis 00:37, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
          • I was responding very specifically to HighInBC's statement of "a username the will clearly offend a group can be disallowed on that basis". Some feedback, I read your message as sounding condescending. If that wasn't your intention, please use care in the future. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
    • If you take any simple idea and reduce it to the absurd, it will be absurd, but that does not make it a compelling argument. _InBC 00:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I would like further clarification by Chairboy for his original post. How can "double standards" compare to favoritism for one particular religious group? NikoSilver 00:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
        • The user seemed to assert that a user should be blocked because we would otherwise "burn in hell". This is not a standard that I believe has been applied to the construction of Misplaced Pages policy in the past, and seems to give christianity a bit of a leg up over the rest when it comes to the project. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow - although I don't fear burning anywhere except on the beach. Kukini 00:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow No brainer, Satan is a religious figure, a very controversial one at that, likely to offend. _InBC 00:10, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow-Religious figure. --TeckWiz Contribs_@ 00:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow. I'm really confused why there is even debate on a clear-cut name of a religious figure. It's only specifically in the policy... -Amarkov moo! 00:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow, seems obvious. The flippant juxtaposition of a symbol of one religion's major holiday, next to the name of a figure hated in that religion, is not just "potentially" offensive to some. It is offensive to some. For the record, I hate to sanctimoniously say "I was offended", but it did make me wince a little when I first saw it. --Ginkgo100 02:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Jehoshua (talk · contribs)

- contravenes WP:U - direct reference to religious figure. Currently revert-warring on Christ. Prolly needs blocking outright. Comments? - Alison 01:29, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Sorry to sound stupid, but what does this word mean? Acalamari 01:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Jehoshua :) It's a major Biblical figure and unheard of in that form outside its religious context. I'm unsure, so referring it here - Alison 01:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
    • In that case, disallow. Acalamari 01:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow obviously. ~ Arjun 02:11, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Disallow-Obvious. --TeckWiz Contribs_@ 02:13, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, then we should bar names like Thomas, Calgacus, Setanta, Cuchullain---What's the fuss? ---Manopingo 02:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Comment How about you block him for spamming Christ repeatedly? He hasn't done anything good since he has been here. The Behnam 02:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

  He's only done it twice, but if he does do it again, he's been given final warnings for both, so I think it would be fine. ShadowHalo 02:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• Request Can we get the input of a person who knows Hebrew? It is possible that this name is still given (though I somehow doubt that is the case for 'mr. preacher' here). The Behnam 02:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I'm nearly certain that it is still given, although that likely isn't the intent here. -Amarkov moo! 02:31, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow - While you are at it, request comments for John, Cain, Joshua, Adam...or any other name that could be connected to any religious text. Arrowhead1 02:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
• Allow the user name and let the user be blocked for bad behavior. Shenme 02:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• Comment, maybe WP needs a definitive policy on famous historical and important religious names, with no exceptions--Manopingo 02:51, 13 March 2007 (UTC)