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| * I ensured ] compliance using a handy plugin called ] | * I ensured ] compliance using a handy plugin called ] | ||
| * Another handy plugin, this time for checking references, is ]. Here, it's mainly picking up "Inconsistent use of Publisher Location" and says: 9 with; 17 without. So that could be standardised. (Something like this would be an issue at FAC) | * Another handy plugin, this time for checking references, is ]. Here, it's mainly picking up "Inconsistent use of Publisher Location" and says: 9 with; 17 without. So that could be standardised. (Something like this would be an issue at FAC) | ||
| * I also notice on refs you need to be consistent about whether or not you are wikilinking publishers and their locations. | |||
| * I see both "Horsley (2019). Billy Strachan 1921–1988" and "Horsley (2019). Billy Strachan" | |||
| * Infobox - right now you are using either commas or br to make a list, I'd suggest replacing with ] | * Infobox - right now you are using either commas or br to make a list, I'd suggest replacing with ] | ||
| * Infobox - prob could add more bluelinks, although duplicate links are frowned upon in the article body, that doesn't include infobox or picture captions | * Infobox - prob could add more bluelinks, although duplicate links are frowned upon in the article body, that doesn't include infobox or picture captions | ||
| * Per ] it would be great to add alt captions to the images for screen readers | * Per ] it would be great to add alt captions to the images for screen readers | ||
| * So if I'm reading it right "Frost, Peter (31 March 2018). "Billy Strachan – just 'another bloody immigrant'"." is the author blog reposting an article in the '']''. Use of blogs will need to justified at FAC, but this one can be I think, EXCEPT then we come to what ] says about Morning Star, which is: {{tq|The Morning Star is a British tabloid with a low circulation and readership that the New Statesman has described as "Britain's last communist newspaper". There is no consensus on whether the Morning Star engages in factual reporting, and broad consensus that it is a biased and partisan source. All uses of the Morning Star should be attributed. Take care to ensure that content from the Morning Star constitutes due weight in the article and conforms to the biographies of living persons policy.}}. So you can use it but need to say you are using it, in the article itself I would say and I notice you are drawing on it extensively. At FAC, sources need to be "high-quality reliable sources". | |||
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This is the first time submitting an article for peer review.
This article is an example of my best work as a wikipedia editor. Any help for how my article could possible be improved will be greatly appreciated.
Thankyou and hope to hear back soon, The History Wizard of Cambridge (talk) 21:00, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
Comments from Z1720
Comments after a quick skim:
- Second paragraph in Education needs a citation.
- "He felt unwell on his last operation on 14 April 1945, jettisoning his bombs over the North Sea and returning to base." Needs a citation
- Move the death information into "Later life"; since there is a lot of information about his legacy, this can be its own section.
- "Comments on his life" I don't think it section is necessary and relies too much on quotes. Instead, incorporate this section into other parts or remove it.
- "STRACHAN, WILLIAM ARTHUR WATKIN (ORAL HISTORY)"." Should not be in all caps per MOS:ALLCAPS
- The article relies upon one source. I suggest looking for other sources in WP:LIBRARY, Google Scholar and archive.org.
I hope this helps. Z1720 (talk) 17:37, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- Dear @z1720 , I've gone through all your feedback which has helped me slightly improve the article.
Second paragraph in Education needs a citation.Done"He felt unwell on his last operation on 14 April 1945, jettisoning his bombs over the North Sea and returning to base." Needs a citationSentence deleted, refers to actions described later in articleMove the death information into "Later life"; since there is a lot of information about his legacy, this can be its own section.Done- "Comments on his life" I don't think it section is necessary and relies too much on quotes. Instead, incorporate this section into other parts or remove it. I don't 100% agree, but perhaps at a later date
"STRACHAN, WILLIAM ARTHUR WATKIN (ORAL HISTORY)"." Should not be in all caps per MOS:ALLCAPSDone- The article relies upon one source. I suggest looking for other sources in WP:LIBRARY, Google Scholar and archive.org. I assume you mean David Horsley's 2019 biography of Billy Strachan? I believe it is the most authoritative source on this subject. However, I have ordered more books which mention him and will increase the diversity of sources :)
Thankyou again for helping me to improve my favourite page. The History Wizard of Cambridge (talk) 19:18, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
Comments from mujinga
- Thanks to The History Wizard of Cambridge for the invitation!
- First off, the article shouldn't be on peer review and GAR at the same time, per Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Guidelines
When can a review be closed? If the article has become a candidate for good article, featured article or featured list status
Mujinga (talk) 18:37, 18 May 2023 (UTC) - I ensured MOS:DASH compliance using a handy plugin called User:Ohconfucius/dashes.js
- Another handy plugin, this time for checking references, is User:Lingzhi2/reviewsourcecheck. Here, it's mainly picking up "Inconsistent use of Publisher Location" and says: 9 with; 17 without. So that could be standardised. (Something like this would be an issue at FAC)
- I also notice on refs you need to be consistent about whether or not you are wikilinking publishers and their locations.
- I see both "Horsley (2019). Billy Strachan 1921–1988" and "Horsley (2019). Billy Strachan"
- Infobox - right now you are using either commas or br to make a list, I'd suggest replacing with Template:Unbulleted list
- Infobox - prob could add more bluelinks, although duplicate links are frowned upon in the article body, that doesn't include infobox or picture captions
- Per Misplaced Pages:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Alternative text for images it would be great to add alt captions to the images for screen readers
- So if I'm reading it right "Frost, Peter (31 March 2018). "Billy Strachan – just 'another bloody immigrant'"." is the author blog reposting an article in the Morning Star. Use of blogs will need to justified at FAC, but this one can be I think, EXCEPT then we come to what Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources says about Morning Star, which is:
The Morning Star is a British tabloid with a low circulation and readership that the New Statesman has described as "Britain's last communist newspaper". There is no consensus on whether the Morning Star engages in factual reporting, and broad consensus that it is a biased and partisan source. All uses of the Morning Star should be attributed. Take care to ensure that content from the Morning Star constitutes due weight in the article and conforms to the biographies of living persons policy.
. So you can use it but need to say you are using it, in the article itself I would say and I notice you are drawing on it extensively. At FAC, sources need to be "high-quality reliable sources".