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== Fine ==
Go ahead and check user. Go ahead and block ips. That won't resolve you acting like a dick. Maybe you could talk nicely to people without giving 'last warnings' first time you see them and blocking them without saying anything.
You get more flies with sugar than vinegar.] 04:21, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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Emailing me
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Why did you remove my external links?
If you've come here because you want to know why I removed some external links you've added, please read Misplaced Pages's policies on spam and Misplaced Pages external link guidelines first. Because of Misplaced Pages's popularity, it has become a target for folks looking to promote their sites, which is against Misplaced Pages policies. If you read WP:SPAM and still feel that your link(s) does not violate those policies, let me know.
One common argument I hear is But so-and-so link is on that article, and it's commercial!WP:EL doesn't explicitly forbid In links to commercial sites; it depends on the notability of the link, its content, and if it's a reference or a notable pro/con argument on a controversial subject, etc. On the other hand, I think that many Wikipedians would agree that there are way too many commercial links at present time, so feel free to "prune away" if the link doesn't meet guidelines in WP:EL. Incidentally, if you've come here to complain that I've deleted links to your blog (especially a blog with advertising), don't bother. You'll have to find free advertising somewhere else. A good Google search will reveal plenty of places for that sort of thing.
Vandalism and insults left here will be recycled in the bit bucket. Remember: be nice!
Thanks for commenting and noticing that she has been making some constructive edits. I really suffer for the details, no matter how hard I try, and greatly appreciate the efforts made by folks who go in and copyedit a word here and there. KP Botany00:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
And for her first return, we proudly present anti-US rhetoric posted on another user's talk page: "Did you read those websites closely yet? Did it change your mind so you could see that it IS child slavery?" KP Botany00:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Please be advised that not all other users consider Sundiiaaa's comments "ANTI-US" rhetoric (unless Kp Botany means "against us" instead of "contre les etats unis") and as far as i can tell, much of the discussion which is accused of being soapbox-y usually gets ignored in smaller amounts elsewhere. opinion, regardless of the topic, always seeps through into discussion pages and gets ignored unless is appears to be egregious (in the same way that laws on crimes are never enforced perfectly everywhere, lest everyone be in jail). While not questioning your actions on the 48-hour blocks (i'm not a moderator, nor do i crave that power over others), i do wonder if, had Sundiiiaaa's comments been formatted more formally the same sort of decision would have been made?
The formatting of the comments wasn't the issue; but rather, the approach. The first block was in response to spamming the same content to multiple pages and talk pages despite warnings to not use Misplaced Pages as a soapbox (which Sundiaaa has more or less admitted was a goal). The second block was in response to an off-topic post to another user's talk page (who'd simply made a comment about adding more information about a certain type of insurance). While I don't doubt that there are others who share Sundiaaa's opinions, I have yet to see any reliable sources that support the views that Sundiaaa is trying to push. OhNoitsJamie16:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Personal Budget
Hi there, just wanted to check on something on the two external links that you took off. I'm not an expert on this, so I know I'm probably wrong :-) Anyway, I thought the two sites were okay because they did offer "other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article", considering that excel spreasheets themselves cannot be included in the article. Especially since the article itself mentions the use of excel for budgeting purposes. Anyhoo, just wanted to explain myself and see what you thought. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JimmyCor (talk • contribs).
While the "meaningful relevant" clause is part of WP:EL, I think most editors (including myself) feel that it's superceded by other elements of WP:EL. In general, I think if there's any doubt about the inclusion of a link, we should err on the side of exclusion to keep Misplaced Pages as "advertising-free" as possible. In this case, one link is from a commercial company, and the other has Google ads. A Google search will turn up hundreds of similar "tools" and whatnot; I don't think there's a compelling reason for Misplaced Pages to drive traffic to two of them. If they were .edu, non-profit .org, or government domains, I would not object to their inclusion. A great place to read debates regarding link appropriateness is at the Wikiproject Spam talk pages and archives. Thanks for you help, OhNoitsJamie21:32, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
ht.wikipedia project
I stopped a recent slew of vandalism at the Haitian Kreyol[REDACTED] and noticed this in the process: . I'm guessing this isn't you, but please confirm. Bastiq▼e22:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Nope, that's not me. It wouldn't be the first time that someone impersonated me; thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cool dog, by the way (I own a similar mix)! OhNoitsJamie22:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Well, if you ever need to register at the Haitian project, let a steward know...otherwise we'll just leave that one blocked. Bastiq▼e22:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
I responded to your query that you placed on my talk page. My response can be found here. If the message isn't on my talk page, please see the archives for the time period of your original message. Feel free to post any further comments on my talk page, and I'll respond to you as soon as possible. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant05:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jamie, I also added a vandalism warning to Kimberley123, looks like you have had to fix some of her vandalism too. She's all over the place and about due to be blocked...do you have admin privileges? Anyway, just FYI that we may need to keep an eye on this individual. Montanabw19:00, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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Real estate trends
Jamie, I am new to[REDACTED] and not as up to speed with what is right and what is wrong. I therefore kindly request your guidance to help me make my contribution better. I have read the requirements but am still a bit uncertain as to exactly what you would like to see added to the real estate trends wiki that would in your opinion validate referencing the Swanepoel Trends Report. The Report is 159-pages of extensive research, carries no advertising and is the only report of its nature covering the business trends of the industry. It analyses Multiple Listing Systems, Changing Consumer Habits in Home Buying, the Impact of the Internet of Brokerage, Gen X, Gen Y and Baby Boomers, the Housing Bubble, big companies such as Realogy, REMAX and many more, etc. It is the second time the Report is published as it is widely regarded as the leading Report within the Industry on the topic on real estate trends, probably because it is the only annual report on real estate business trends. By the way the author Stefan Swanepoel has shared the stage with David Lereah, written a dozen other publications, so although he is no Donald Trump he is also not an unknown in the industry. Your guidance in improving my contribution will be much appreciated.
I'm not going to debate the value or merits of the report; however, topics in Misplaced Pages must meet notability and reliable sources criteria to avoid deletion. Also refer to policies on WP:SPAM and WP:External links. Regardless of the value of the aforementioned report, your edit patterns suggests that you are trying to use Misplaced Pages to promote a commercial product. Your contribution history strongly suggests trying to create a "link farm"; you may be interested to read our article on nofollow. OhNoitsJamie06:16, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your insights. I will read your suggested links and will seek to improve my contributions accordingly.
Sean
Greetings Ohnoitsjamie, your temp. blocking of that IP address is appreciated. Both Pschemp and I have been doing our best to make that user's ban effective but still he persists... if you are interested and have the time you might read over this user's M.O.. Take it easy. (→Netscott)18:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
It appears that this individual managed to squeeze out creating an account before creation was disabled. As typical for him he's complained to another individual as the sock to try to back himself up. If you'd indef. this latest sock that'd be helpful... if not I'm sure Pschemp (who's much more familiar with his patterns) will do so later on. See you. (→Netscott)18:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you removed a link I put on the webmaster page to webmaster learnstuffonline com/ I think this is a good resource for people to learn about being a webmaster, from start to finish. There are articles on how to get a website up from start to finish, and articles about Web Design. Pls let me know your thoughts on this. Thanks in advance either way! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BushMackel (talk • contribs).
Thanks for the reply, and I agree with you that Misplaced Pages is not a how-to guide, and neither is a good part of webmaster.learnstuffonline.com. The first article there further discusses the role of the modern day webmaster vs a "historic" webmaster, the tools webmasters use (languages and technologies) and their usual things they're responsible for. Which is not covered in great detail on the Misplaced Pages article. Furthermore, the article on the site titled "Choosing a Web Host" is not a how-to-guide either, but an article of information about what webmasters should look for in their web host, which is a topic webmasters need to be painfully familiar with and not covered on the[REDACTED] article.
In conclusion the site offers, (in my opinion), not only how-to-guides but great informational articles that go way beyond the depth offered on the Misplaced Pages article. More to the point, the website "contain further research which is accurate and on-topic", and I don't see how it's different than the other sites that are linked except this one immediately provides on topic and useful information vs links like http://www.webroundtable.org/ which will probably not even be of use to most viewers of the wikipage. Thx again for your thoughts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BushMackel (talk • contribs).
This talk feature is pretty cool. Ha ha. Anyway, may I ask why you marked the link as spam in the first place? It seems that you didn't really check out the link as much as you glanced at it. (Not trying to get uppity, it just seems to me that you're defeating the point of putting external links on wikipedia) — Preceding unsigned comment added by BushMackel (talk • contribs)
Please refer to WP:EL and WP:SPAM for the releveant policies. I did look at the link; it's an advertising-supported site, one that had previously been spammed by an anon IP to numerous articles. As I said earlier, Misplaced Pages is in no great need of links; it's in need of content. OhNoitsJamie04:38, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Well even though I think in the end, you're doing a disservice to users of Misplaced Pages by excluding a site that has quality content, I appreciate the dialogue. Take care!
Hi. You state: "My English and Meta Misplaced Pages accounts are my only accounts. All others are imposters." Therefore, should the Dutch language account nl:User:Ohnoitsjamie be blocked for impersonating you, or did you create this account yourself? Cheers, Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 03:25, 14 February 2007 (UTC) (I'd prefer a response at one of the talks linked in my sig, doesn't matter which one)
Yes, please block that account (by the way, I'll be visiting your country for the first time in a few weeks...looking forward to it! OhNoitsJamie03:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Correct translation would've been something like, literally translated: "overigens, in de komende weken zal ik jouw land voor het eerst bezoeken ".... not fluent spoken Dutch, but grammatically correct. Niels|en talk-nl talk (faster response)| 05:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Ha! Yeah, the auto-translations usually yield something that you can make sense out of, yet is hopelessly awkward. I think we arrive in Amsterdam on Feb 27 and leave for Brussels on March 2. Cheers, OhNoitsJamie16:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
This IP's edits all insert links to a commercial tutoring service - you've reverted the one at SAT and I just reverted some at Phil Bradley. I'm not sure about his edits to Atlanta, Georgia, though, and thought you might take a look - legitimate info about Atlanta or thinly veiled spam? Thanks. - Special-T14:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
The basic rule of thumb is to only remove red links that are unlikely to ever have an article (e.g., the linked subject is not notable and unlikely to become notable). See WP:RED for a longer explanation. Thanks, OhNoitsJamie18:10, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Can you put welcome message? Also how do I make the "this user strives to solve contraversial issues" user box? D4niel1118:22, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The Emancipation of Jonny
Hi!
You recently placed a prod. on 'The Emancipation of Jonny' article, and your reason in doing so is incorrect. You state that there is no record of the name 'Jonathan Nguyen' on imdb; but that in fact is also incorrect. If you check again you'll see. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Featurefilm (talk • contribs).
I didn't say there was no record of Nguyen. I said there was no record of a movie by that title on imdb or anywhere else for that matter. If you challenge the prod, I'll send it to afd on the basis of no WP:Verifiability and WP:CRYSTAL. OhNoitsJamie03:05, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
"Blog" artice: External Link to "E-log"
Jamie:
I have read the guidance on external links, and can find no way in which this citation violates any guideline. I don't think there is anything inappropriate about that link. Moocat.net is not and has never been a "blog." As I stated before, it is an online literary magazine that hosts the work of numerous authors (some famous, some not). There is a section called "Travelogs," which to date has been reserved for publishing old "e-logs" that I wrote and sent out via email while traveling abroad in 1995-96. The entries from that trip are almost complete, and so soon I will open up that section to travel narratives from other writers. If you can find an EARLIER reference to the use of the term "e-log" for journal entries that exist in email form only and that are sent out to an email list, please feel free to replace mine with that earlier reference.
You have asked me to discuss the citation on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. However, you yourself have twice removed the citation without first discussing it on Talk (with the stated justification that it is a link to a "personal website"). As I explained above, Moocat.net is not a "personal website."
You are right about one thing: My posting of this citation would violate the principle of not posting "links to web sites with which you are affiliated." Except that, I have carefully read the guidelines, and there is no such principle stated.
There is, however, in the "Links normally to be avoided" section, a mention of "Links mainly intended to promote a website." And I can understand how you might have assumed that the purpose of my posting this link was to promote my own website. However, without having any way to prove this, I can tell you that that was and is not my intent. Again, I cannot prove my "intent" and nor can anyone else. My web traffic has always been (and will probably always be) quite minimal, and that's fine with me. The site is not for profit and has no advertising.
The fact remains that the article cited includes the earliest reference on the Internet to the term "e-log" as described in the citation. (I have done an exhaustive search and would welcome anyone else to do further research.) Again, if you can find any earlier reference, please use it. If you cannot, why don't you restore that citation yourself? That would remove any conceivable appearance of "self-promotion" but would still provide Misplaced Pages readers with access to this (small, but) significant historical fact.
On my Talk page you, in a section that you entitled "Links to your blog," you asked "Please do not add inappropriate external links" and then went on to imply (emphasis, mine) why the link was inappropriate: "Misplaced Pages is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product." Calling my literary magazine a "blog" is insulting and defamatory. Implying that I linked to the Blog article with the intent of "advertising or promotion" or that it is a "personal web site" is libellous. I have therefore removed your libellous comments. For further information, see Misplaced Pages:Libel.
I think you need to read up on what constitutes libel. Be aware that Misplaced Pages also has a policy on legal threats. I stand by my assertion that a link to your personal site is not appropriate, mostly on the grounds that it does not meet WP:Reliable sources guidelines. OhNoitsJamie16:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Fine. You are entitled to that opinion. But do not imply, as you did, that I posted the link to steer users to the (nonexistent) advertising on my site, nor that my magazine, which hosts work (with permission) by many published authors, some very highly regarded in the writing community, is a "personal website" or worse, a "blog."
I've removed the original references from the Blog article anyway, because on further review of the remaining two cited sites, they BOTH ultimately were examples of web-based--as opposed to e-mail-based--communication. With that in mind, I don't think that my usage of the term "e-log" in March 1996 is relevant enough or of enough interest to include, even in a citation.
I don't need to read an article on Misplaced Pages to know what is libellous. I stand by my assertion that your comments were. Regarding your reference to having made "legal threats," I have made no threats of any kind. I think you need to read up on what constitutes "nice."
Moocat16:59, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello, Ohnoitsjamie. Just want to add on something since I'm an admin on that wiki: Our sysophood is not for life. Sadly, if you are inactive for... say... 2 years or more, desysopping will occur. I hope I have answered your question. If you need sysop help there, do ask our friendly admins there. Thank you!--Tdxiang09:04, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tdxiang; I don't have an account on :simple. As noted on my user page, there appear to be some bored teenagers creating imposter accounts on other Wikipedias. Feel free to block that account on :simple indefinitely. Thanks! OhNoitsJamie17:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Huh, not sure what to make of this -- saw you added an indefblock notice, but the block log shows no entries. Gave it a few minutes to "catch up," but nothing's showing, in either your block log or theirs. I get the "user already blocked, unblock to change duration" error if I try. I guess it's probably nothing to worry about, but seemed like it might be worth a mention. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:02, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Your revert to Chicago Fire Department actually reverted back to incorrect facts. The changes created by User:Ein101 were in fact correct (while his first two edits were perhaps worthy of mere test templates, not blatant vandal templates). Chicago Fire no longer uses three-quarter boots as of December 2006. I have reverted your changes back to those last made by Ein101. Regards, Daysleeper4714:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
(I'm a noob and can't get the formatting correct - apologies)
I just got back from vacation and received this from you:
I have added a template to the article Travel 2.0, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and Misplaced Pages's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:20, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand where to find why you deleted this article. Will it have to be re-written?
Go ahead and check user. Go ahead and block ips. That won't resolve you acting like a dick. Maybe you could talk nicely to people without giving 'last warnings' first time you see them and blocking them without saying anything.
