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List of proxy wars

Le Monde is a valid source - Katerinci — Preceding undated comment added 20:30, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages doesn't currently recognise the Russo-Ukrainian war as a proxy war. This labelling is contentious and will require talk page consensus. — Czello 07:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC)

It's still a proxy war, even if you are determined to revert my edits. Katerinci (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

You'll need consensus for that. — Czello 20:52, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Oopsie

My apologies. I broke my glasses today, and was using an inferior pair. I apologize for undoing your correct revert. I get it. Sorry. Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk} 17:30, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Why did you undo my edit?

On the glossary page the hash was changed from "Legit" to "legit", and since hashes are case sensitive #Legit links to a non-existing hash. This means that the link is broken. My edit fixed the link, but for some reason you reverted it back to the broken version which makes absolutely no sense. But maybe you can tell me why you prefer a broken link to a working link. Lerura (talk) 08:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough, I didn't realise it was lower case in the main article. Relax. — Czello 09:52, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Shane-Miz-Snoop

How do we address this? The sources state that Miz-Snoop was done on the fly after Shane's injury, so does it count as one match or 2? Miz-Shane was the plan, Miz-Snoop was the replacement, that is clear. This is a weird situation, and it's not like this kinda thing happens every day, so we don't exactly have a template to go off of. Vjmlhds (talk) 18:12, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Ultimately I think, given the unusual nature of the match, we simply have to go with whatever sources say. From what I can see sources just say Snoop pinned Miz, with no mention of a no contest. — Czello 18:37, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

I guess so. This was just a strange situation all the way around, and I was just looking for a fair way to point out the match was supposed to be Miz-Shane. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:16, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@Vjmlhds: I get that, and I appreciate it ultimately though I think we can't interpret the situation beyond anything the sources say. — Czello 07:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

Page Protections re: Corporate Memphis

Hello! As you are a far more experienced editor than I, may I ask what I am doing wrong with asking for semi-protection on the Corporate Memphis page? I made two requests for indefinite semi-protection on account of severe levels of Misplaced Pages:POVPUSH often by ephemeral IP editors (and sometimes even registered editors) on the page, and both were dismissed by Admins (you can check the recent request for protection page logs for both Admin responses by admins Deepfriedokra and El_C). Also, if you check on the edit history of the Corporate Memphis page itself, as well as the Talk page, you can see the clear level of POV pushing, where users want to remove a certain term that is extant within over half of the sources used on the page. Even if they wish to remove the term from the page, that would invalidate most of the sourcing on the page, necessitating scrapping much of the page itself. I am having difficulty understanding why the page will not even be granted semi-protection, when it probably requires, in actuality, extended protection. Should also note the increase in frequency in which WP:PUS are also added. Thank you! Top5a (talk) 20:15, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Personally I don't think you've done anything wrong in your protection requests - I would have done the same thing. I don't agree with the reasons for the requests being declined. The problem is this is a low-traffic article, meaning talk page discussion is rather slow. I think all we can do at this juncture is restore the text if it's removed and encourage a talk page discussion per WP:BRD to encourage a consensus. If a consensus determines it should be removed, so be it. I've added the page to my watchlist to help encourage a proper consensus on the talk page. — Czello 21:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

OK, thank you. I do not have a dog in this proverbial fight aside from advocating for WP:NPOV and WP:V, but the amount of edit-warring on the page caught my attention. Of note, without me wanting to cast WP:ASPERSIONS, you will notice that a different Admin in the recent changlog removed the contentious part of the article whilst simply stating in their commit "unsourced", having clearly neither made any effort to check the sources, nor to visit the Talk page. So, now this is three Admins who are exhibiting clear bias on this page. The more I dip my toes into Misplaced Pages, the more I see this. I am hesitant to engage in anything remotely political, as I believe that Misplaced Pages NPOV processes should theoretically be able to nip most debates in the bud, as there isn't really WP:TRUTH to be had anyway. By the way, I noticed your Sanger userbox, and remember his interviews and writings at the time. Cheers :) Top5a (talk) 22:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks again. Sent another request for protection. Top5a (talk) 16:56, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

Declined yet again by the heavily politically biased moderators on this website. I do not edit much, but it is almost about time for me to toss in the proverbial towel. Sanger is more correct every day, and I have seen an insane amount of bias especially in my work on Chinese articles, as well. Top5a (talk) 01:47, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

WP:AN

Concerning this edit: if I thought it were a real possibility that I might (or might be perceived to) cause disruption on MOSBIO by discussing GENSEX topics, I would not have filed for the limited exception (and I spent a full week in discernment before doing so). WP editing is a privilege, and I value that privilege too much to risk it even to contribute to a limited domain where my participation to date has been all-gain, no pain for the project. I am confident that the one month is enough time to establish new habits, as long as I monitor myself.

Also, please see the explanation I provided to Kolya at my Talk - I get that I haven't communicated well, but my reply was intended to address the substance of what you said (which doesn't correspond to my contribution history on policy pages, AFAICT), and wasn't intended as a comment about your word choice. Newimpartial (talk) 21:22, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

RaghuvendraRaghuwanshi

The PAs were posted by RaghuvendraRaghuwanshi. The one you mentioned may be a sock/meat. See: wp:AN3#User:RaghuvendraRaghuwanshi reported by User:Adakiko (Result: ) Cheers! Adakiko (talk) 11:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Yep, I strongly suspect it's a sock. — Czello 12:01, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Hah! I just deciphered that username you reported to AIV. Cheers Adakiko (talk) 12:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

— Czello 12:09, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Us-Japan Alliance

Why did you delete the map that i have posted ? that will help those who don't know where those two countries are situated, especially Americans people and kids.

Also i want to further add that most page that talk about a military alliance and a treaty have map in them, like the nato page https://en.wikipedia.org/NATO or the Collective Security Treaty Organization map or even AUKUS https://en.wikipedia.org/AUKUS Bourenane Chahine (talk) 08:51, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Please see WP:BRD. When reverted you shouldn't edit war to restore the contested material; instead it's time to engage on the article's talk page. I see you've started a thread - you should wait for the other user to reply. — Czello 08:52, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

New Jersey–Cyprus National Guard Partnership

You are right, it's better not put a map like that there. by the way i are you stalking my page or what ? why are you viewing my work ? Bourenane Chahine (talk) 09:45, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I did look through some of your contributions to see if there were similar issues with images, as I notice you've created a few. — Czello 09:51, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Martina Navratalova

The stable version is from 7 April not the version you have reverted to please go back to the stable version and not the version which is from 17 April. The noise of the current versions needs to be ignored and it needs to be gone back to before the changes were made on 17 April. The stable version clearly form 10 days is from 7 April not the Fyunck(click) of 17 April (potentially 16 April depending on your timezone) Sparkle1 (talk) 09:31, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

As this is a BLP article we should be vigilant in restoring contentious material, see WP:BLPRESTORE — Czello 09:36, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

The information is heavily well-sourced the removal of this well-sourced information is contentious. I am fully aware of BLP and the version you have reverted to is the potential BLP violation not the other way round. Sparkle1 (talk) 09:48, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Removing contentious material can never be a BLP violation; we should be careful introducing criticism/controversies into BLP articles. — Czello 09:52, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

I also ask you to look a lot more closely at the version you are claiming is the stable version as you should see the final sentence of the lede has now got no sources. This is a clear BLP violation and I would hope this is something you are planning on correcting as unsourced BLP sections of 'contentious' topics are a big no-no. So please be more careful in the future than simply hitting the button without looking at the content. Not everything is as simple as you are making out especially when sources reliable sources at that such as The Independent and Forbes are being removed simply to hide information being reported in them. I strongly suggest you correct this clear BLP violation. Sparkle1 (talk) 10:10, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

Suspicious editing

This is just for informational purposes as you are now all of a sudden editing the page of Martina Navratilova and are behaving on a way to exclusively back up a specific user including reverting to their preferred version and the edits you have made on the talk page. I am very suspicious of the reopening of the discussion you have just done and I am highly suspicious that you have all of a sudden jumped in having never edited as far as I can tell the Martina Navratilova page before to be someone who is now editing it in a way which mirrors another editor. I am happy for you to explain away the suspicions you have generated. This is not an attack as I am hoping there is an innocent explanation for this. Sparkle1 (talk) 10:19, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

WP:AGF - if there's a particular accusation you're making, I'd prefer you to be clearer about what it is. Sockpuppetry? — Czello 10:56, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

AGF was assumed in the above interactions but that vanishes when there is the pattern of behaviour of identical reverting, and editing of a page never edited before to do nigh on identical edits as another editor. he revert also conveniently getting around the 3RR rule the other user was up against. Someone AGF has evaporated here and was clearly assumed by interacting here. So please don't play puppy-eyed and innocent. I feel your response is trying to treat me as a complete mug. Please try again. Sparkle1 (talk) 12:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

You can keep screaming into the void about this if you like, but ultimately all that happened is that you got reverted by two editors. It's not that deep. — Czello 14:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thank you for bringing logic to the discussion. I appreciate you doing that. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 13:28, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! This is very kind of you — Czello 13:39, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Charles R. Pellegrino

Hello. Please assist me in trying to make the Pellegrino page more objective. A single negative review when so many positive reviews exist is wrong, especially considering "Her Name, Titanic" by Pellegrino became an international bestseller, but that is not even permitted on the page. In fact, none of Pellegrino's positive contributions are, due to a troll that monitors the page and gets everyone banned that tries to point of the fact that Pellegrino is credited by Dr. Ballard for the Downblast theory in the international bestseller "Discovery of the Titanic" (whom Pellegrino sailed with in 1985 in the Pacific), being credited by Michael Crichton for inspiring his novel "Jurassic Park," having interviewed double survivors of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki which James Cameron is preparing to direct a movie about, furthering the theory that Santorini may have been Plato's Atlantis, among many others. Thank you. 2603:9001:6B02:657:3883:80D6:BC76:9595 (talk) 07:49, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Firstly, if there are legitimate concerns you have with the article you should discuss them on the article's talk page rather than edit warring. Continuing to delete the content without consensus is just going to result in a block. If you start a thread there and talk about your concerns in details I can address them there. The first review that I removed I believed was unjustified. The rest of the content appears to be justified, but I'd open to hearing your thoughts at Talk:Charles R. Pellegrino — Czello 07:52, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

I've had another look and think we're dealing with block evasion of Cameron Houseman. Please notify me if you see it continuing through semi-protection or afterwards. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 08:53, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, will keep an eye out. — Czello 08:55, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hi Czello, unfortunately an IP has been vandalizing your talk pages on other wikis with genocide denial material and posting it in a way that it looks like you are posting it. See ,

They previously targeted me (on 221 talk pages), I alerted two stewards that helped me clean up the IP vandalism @Superpes15:, @Styyx:, hopefully they will be able to fix this like they helped me.

Sorry to drop this unpleasantness on you, Greetings from Los Angeles,  // Timothy :: talk  14:36, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi there, thanks for the message. I did notice it and found it rather bizarre. I've encountered a few nationalist editors in the past few weeks, so I'm unsurprised if this is some weak form of retaliation. — Czello 14:53, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Remember when an IP added Muhammad Ali trivia to Mortal Kombat Advance

Good times - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:40, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

How could I forget? What a classic. — Czello 22:46, 28 April 2023 (UTC)

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Fascism edit revert

Please explain the rational for reverting my edit on Fascism in popular culture'. It is a perfectly valid addition to the topic. If Woody Gutherie's observations are valid so are other popular culture sources. Norwikian (talk) 11:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC) Some source material for you re:Fascist groove thing

Scottish post-punk band The Fire Engines covered the song for a 23 February 1981 Peel session on BBC Radio 1.

German dark wave project Deine Lakaien featured a cover on the 1999 CD Maxi "Into My Arms" (as "(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thing").

American indie rock band Poster Children covered the song on their 2004 EP On the Offensive.

American synth-pop band Information Society covered the song in 2016 for their album Orders of Magnitude. It was remixed by Inertia and The Crusher for the DEF CON 24 music compilation that same year, featuring multiple voice samples of American president elect Donald Trump.

American post-punk band 100 Flowers covered the song in 2017 for release as a digital single.

American rock band LCD Soundsystem released a cover of the song on 2 November 2018 and included it in their live album Electric Lady Sessions (2019).

Philadelphia punk rock band The Dead Milkmen released a cover August 21, 2020 on a limited-release 7", with proceeds to benefit the charity Girls Rock Philly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Norwikian (talk • contribs)

What I was asking for a source for was the statement, criticism of the newly- elected Ronald Reagan in America and Margaret Thatcher in the UK. — Czello 12:12, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

I'd also advise you against restoring the disputed content, as the page is under a WP:1RR restriction. — Czello 12:27, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Notice to review Numbeo and Talk:Numbeo

You were recently active in Talk:Numbeo and Numbeo and we want cleaning up of the page ASAP to present Neutral Point of View. Could you please join new discussions. Thanks Mladen.adamovic (talk) 05:24, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Edit warring IP user

Hi Czello. How do you do? Would you please add Sareee to your watchlist? An static IP user has started to disrupt it since 30 April. --Mann Mann (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem, I've added it and also requested page protection. — Czello 16:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Thank you. Regards. --Mann Mann (talk) 16:36, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

Early history of animation

hi

I understand your good intentions, but I revoked your edit and explained the reasons in full in the discussion section of that page. thank you Mitrayasna (talk) 15:02, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

You should keep it on the talk page until a consensus emerges. From what I can see you've been reverted by 3 separate editors now. Given that you have a report against you at WP:EWN, continuing to edit war isn't good. — Czello 15:25, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

But I have returned to a copy edited by others. I have reverted to a version of the edit that has already been accepted Mitrayasna (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

Current situation in the article Caput Mundi

Hi! I saw that you deleted some places that didn't cite enough reasons to be added in this article. And since I don't want to go back to the "edit-war" problem, I ask for your help so that the user understands the function of this article, and that it is not because he believes that his country's city is relevant, it should be added there. Since he added the city again and with citations that clearly don't justify it being added there. Vasltunnma (talk) 00:40, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

PPV names

Hello, Czello. I was thinking about the names of Wrestling events for a long time. Maybe, you want to start a discussion to include the name of the promotion. While there are easy names, like Summerslam (2010) or Survivor Series (2010), there are articles with names that can be confused. For example, Departure (2004), Destiny (2005) or No Way Out (2006). Other articles include something to explain the article besides the year, like No Way Out (1987 film), No Way Out (1950 film), Destiny (2018 film), Destiny (2006 film), Departure (1938 film), Departure (1931 film) (somehow, I should know Destiny 2005 is a pro wrestling event held by NOAH, not a movie or a music album). Pro wrestling events just include a year with no other definition, which I think breaks the point of disambiguations. There is nothing like WWE No Way Out (2006) or No Way Out 2006 pro wrestling event --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:31, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

This is a good point - in hindsight, the point of a disambiguation is kind of lost in the examples you give. Perhaps we should restart the discussion on the Wikiproject and try to find a way that works across all PPV titles. — Czello 09:51, 23 May 2023 (UTC)

Removal of COI tag

Referring to the discussion of COI tag of Priti Adani removal you have recently took part. As you requested the editor who had added COI tag to share his views, so as to remove the COI tag. Its 8 days now the concerned users have remained silent and have not shared his views. I completely believe the COI tag is completely not justified and already shared my view in the discussion. Hence I would request you to kindly consider removing the COI tag from the article as the COI tag remined for quite a very long time now. Thanks Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 20:08, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

You're right, they haven't replied after being given a chance. I'll remove it. — Czello 07:06, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your valuable reply. On the same day, the same user added one more COI tag to my contributed image. I shared my views there as that the COI tag is completely not justified for that page . Referring to the discussion of COI tag of Karan Adani

Requesting you to kinldy review the same and consider the necessary actions to remove the COI tag from that page. The COI tag is also remaining on that page for a very long time. Thanks Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 05:52, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Reality Era

Do you think this should perhaps be merged into the main History of WWE article like the New Era article? While it's true WWE calls 2014-2016 the Reality Era, a common public perception is that we're still in the PG Era (given all the "WWE is leaving the PG Era" rumor articles in 2019). Many fans think of the Reality and New Eras as marketing gimmicks and that it's still the PG Era ever since the TV-PG rating and switch to HD in 2008. 204.111.198.147 (talk) 02:50, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Yes, I 100% do. However when I tried to start a deletion discussion for it the result was no consensus. If another deletion discussion is started (or a merge discussion on the talk page) I'll gladly contribute. — Czello 07:09, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Look at what I´ve written about Till Lindemann in his discussion page

And search the internet for the countless stories by reliable news sources in the German press, this story is growing. StrongALPHA (talk) 10:29, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

For instance the following news story here: Neue Vorwürfe gegen Rammstein-Sänger Till Lindemann | tagesschau.de . StrongALPHA (talk) 10:32, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I've seen it, thanks. I appreciate the story is growing but we need to be careful about allegations on a BLP article. I've notified WP:BLPN and will defer to their expertise on how to go about this. Cheers! — Czello 10:33, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Oliver Boyd-Barrett

: "There may be validity to excluding this source, but as removal has been challenged it'll need to be discussed either on the talk page or (ideally) at WP:RSN" - how come? 99% of the time editors have to prove the reliability of a source, not its unreliability, and so far RadioactiveBoulevardier did not provide any arguments other than it being published by Routledge (which is good but by itself does not make a source reliable). 93.72.49.123 (talk) 11:46, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I've been trying to research whether or not this author is considered reliable by our standards. There's nothing definitive I can find, but I did find this discussion. While it doesn't mean he's outwardly disqualified, another editor does raise similar concerns. To play it safe I think you might be right in that it's better to exclude the source for now (especially when there are plenty of other sources attached to that sentence). I'll self-revert. — Czello 11:56, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

I see, thank you. 93.72.49.123 (talk) 12:23, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Removal of COI tag from Karan Adani page

Few days back you have taken part in the discussions and removal of COI tag from Priti Adani Page. On the same day, the same user who added COI tag in Priti Adani page added one for COI tag to Karan Adani Page just after I contributed the infobox picture. I shared my views there as well that the COI tag is completely not justified for that page. As you a very senior editor I am requesting you to kinldy review the same and consider the necessary actions to remove the COI tag from Karan Adani Pagepage. The COI tag is also remaining on that page for a very long time. Below is the discussion link COI tag of Karan Adani Thanks Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 07:17, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

I've removed it. It being there since September without any further discussion makes me think it's stale anyway. — Czello 07:19, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Mainakchatterjee.tech (talk) 17:27, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Elections in Cuba dispute resolution

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You might want to double check your thread there, there appear to be formatting errors. — Czello 13:53, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

it's not even showing up for me, so i have no idea how to proceed.

formatting could not be added in wizard. Bart Terpstra (talk) 14:02, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

It appears to be a subsection under the Iran/Russia thread. If you un-collapse everything at the bottom you should be able to see it. I think it'll need a new header to separate it (or maybe the collapse box doesn't have have an end tag to it). — Czello 14:18, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

why is this the default way "request dispute resolution" files things. makes no sense. thanks for pointing it out. Bart Terpstra (talk) 14:21, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

Tried to fix it, way too much work, you need to start afresh. Slatersteven (talk) 14:26, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

lord take me now Bart Terpstra (talk) 14:27, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

it has been fixed by someone else, you can now contribute. Bart Terpstra (talk) 18:20, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Peer review/Money in the Bank (2018)/archive1

I plan to take this to GA status. Would appreciate your feedback and comments. Thanks.  — Ssven2 10:36, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

NWA Roster

Hello, Czello. How are you? I want you opinion. Recently, I read the List of National Wrestling Alliance personnel. While it's common for notable promotions to include a roster page... I don't know if the NWA Roster is even notable. There are barely no sources. Most of the wrestlers are unsourced or just mentions of them working on NWA show, but not being hired by NWA. A list of matches? A facebook announcement? A youtube match? NWA website doesn't have a roster section . What do you think, should I AfD the article? --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 19:11, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not a great article. It looks like one of those where it could probably be salvaged, though. I think I'd probably consider asking at WP:PW if anyone wants to help bring up the quality of sources (though, if I'm being brutally honest, I doubt it'd get much attention). — Czello 21:24, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

No hard feelings...

...about the wrestling, BTW. EEng 08:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

No worries. I assume we won't agree on it, but hey - who cares. It's only Misplaced Pages. Here, have a beer 🍺 — Czello 08:55, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Sure, as soon as I knock you over the head with a folding chair. EEng 09:04, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

I was about to say the referee would would disqualify you for that, but I just noticed someone else has told the ref. — Czello 09:14, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

You know Addicted is doing what he's doing out of spite.

Come on. Let's be real here. What I don't get is why you're trying to back him up. SkylerLovefist (talk) 21:03, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

@SkylerLovefist: Edits like this aren't helpful. You've been blocked for personal attacks before, so I'd advise that you retract that. If you're confident you'll pass the SPI, just wait for an admin. You've made 5 different comments already (not counting ones to me and Vjmlhds) which isn't a great look. — Czello 08:07, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

That's nice. Doesn't address what I said at all, but OK. I'm absolutely 100 percent correct that Addicted is doing this out of spite because I won't be bullied by him and I've made that clear. I'm amused at how "this isn't a good look for me," yet you and HHHPedrigree are totally cool with violations of WP:PERSONAL. SkylerLovefist (talk) 09:00, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Wrapping this up

I want to talk to you directly, as commenting on the ANI page would just be beating a dead horse. I saw some of the stuff Skyler said to other editors (including you) - some of it is harsh, and it was the first time I saw a lot of it. I tried to stick up for Skyler because he had my back on a lot of stuff, and I felt he was getting a bit of a raw deal (on the surface any way). But if indeed he was socking - which I had no idea about prior to the SPI (and I was unaware of even the SPI until Skyler told me about it a couple of days ago) then that is a no-no. I very much used to be a "shoot first, ask questions later" cowboy around here (with the block log to prove it), but age, wisdom, and scars have convinced to pick my battles more carefully. I'll still let people know if they're giving me a raw deal, but these days, I try not to shoot flies with an elephant gun. Not blaming you for what happened with Skyler...if he was doing stuff he wasn't supposed to do, then it is what is is. Like I said in the ANI, I didn't think you had an issue personally with Skyler, which is why I didn't glom on to that line of attack. So don't worry about me trying to fight a battle that wasn't/isn't my own. Vjmlhds (talk) 22:42, 10 July 2023 (UTC)

Don't worry, I have no beef with you. I think you contribute a lot to the project. Ultimately I find Skyler relished getting into fights, and not just against Addicted. Even if the SPI had found he was innocent his general attitude was going to lead to this kind of outcome. Anyway, hopefully there will be less drama now and we can all get on with the regular business. — Czello 07:46, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

I am certain that your ANI on Damolisher/Skyler contributed in a major way to Ninja Robot Pirate going to the SPI and seeing exactly what you pointed to originally and that I used as the core evidence - and blocking him rightly. I will say that if I did do anything wrong (and I don't think I did) it was under provocation. Heck, when I made my comment on the Impact personnel talk page after my wikibreak I actually said that if he replied to me he'd prove me right - and he did reply and proved me right. It took all of my self control to stop myself from crowing a response. He was trouble and it is a good thing that he is gone. I do intend to revisit the referees issue at some point, but not straight away as that would be what's called gravedancing. I do know that there are similarly sourced referees on the WWE personnel page which I am about to remove now. I'd give you an award but I can't find the way to give you a round of applause. Again - thanks very much. We got rid of a rotten apple that was spoiling the barrel. Addicted4517 (talk) 05:28, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

No worries, ultimately it was your SPI report that got it done, so good work in spotting the similarity between Skyler and Damolisher. I don't think you ever did anything wrong - he was continually aggressive and you never stooped to his level. Hopefully we can get a better standard of sourcing across our articles now. — Czello 07:21, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Anti-Ukrainian sentiment

I removed the information that Bandera was in a concentration camp from 1941 to 1944, because there is a classic manipulation of information. The fact is that the fact that Bandera was in a concentration camp does not mean at all that he and his supporters did not commit war crimes. Bandera is the ideological inspirer of the Volyn massacre and the murder of hundreds of thousands of Poles and Jews. Bandera ended up in a concentration camp because he violated Hitler's order and declared the independence of Ukraine. That is, two Nazis did not share the sphere of influence and power, and one Nazi, Hitler, put another Nazi, Bandera, in a concentration camp.

As I mentioned in the message I posted on your talk page, please discuss this on the article talk page here Talk:Anti-Ukrainian sentiment. — Czello 18:24, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

I have blocked this user for 24 hrs for edit warring. However, I need to caution that you also were edit warring. Please tread carefully when reverting. 3RR applies to anything other than naked vandalism, copyright vio and serious BLP violations. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:40, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm aware - you'll notice I self reverted when I realised. Thanks. — Czello 18:41, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

Spain follows Italy.In Afghanistan Spanish troops were below Italy.79.23.193.41 (talk) 10:24, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

We go by what the sources say, not personal interpretation. — Czello 10:25, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Sources for Spain are not sufficient to be a regional power.79.23.193.41 (talk) 10:26, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Charles III requested move discussion

There is a new requested move discussion in progress for the Charles III article. Since you participated in the previous discussion, I thought you might like to know about this one. Cheers. Rreagan007 (talk) 07:13, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

Margolin

Posting here since the article talk page in such flux. Are you sure that the controversy section is warranted with just the Yahoo-aggregated NextShark source. As discussed previously, the sourcing out there is pretty light and sketchy. Incidentally, the "New York State Supreme Court" bit is unsourced. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 20:17, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

I don't mind self-reverting on the the main page. I can see from the article history that it was initially removed by the same sock (who I assume might be the subject), but if the section itself is flawed I don't mind it going. It could be a case where it needs to be reworked before being re-added. — Czello 20:20, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. 81.214.107.89 (talk) 23:35, 29 July 2023 (UTC)