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Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Numismatics/Cryptocurrency task force

So I just did a overhaul to the main project page of Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Cryptocurrency like adding a orange-like color format to the page and made a userbox and a barnstar, but I'm now finding out there is a task force also for Cryptocurrency via Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Numismatics/Cryptocurrency task force. Was WikiProject Cryptocurrency approved through here instead of the Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Council/Proposals? Or did anyone here not know about WikiProject Cryptocurrency? Jerm (talk) 20:28, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

I think we're very shorthanded and probably these things go unnoticed.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:03, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, and a lot of editors are becoming less active too. I had marked like three WikiProjects this year as inactive and others as semi. I actually just marked WikiProject Cryptocurrency to semi because there are only two members who are still active editors. Jerm (talk) 23:37, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Cryptocurrency is the "active" one. This task force is pretty much inactive so I marked it as Category:Inactive task forces. Coin (talk) 22:08, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

I added the assessment table of the task force to the page of the wikiproject, but I'm not sure if the wikiproject has the same amount of articles assessed according to the task force assessment table. Jerm (talk) 03:58, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

200 euro note

Hi. I noticed that 200 euro note (a Good Article) has an empty subsection (this one). This seems like something that can be easily fixed by someone with the right expertise, which is why I'm bringing it to your attention. Thanks! Lennart97 (talk) 15:17, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

1 yen note

I need someone to copyedit this article for me. It took a few days but I feel enough information has been poured into the article to bump it up to a "B" rating. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 16:39, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Good article reassessment

Please see Misplaced Pages:Good article reassessment/Silver center cent/1 ---Another Believer _(Talk) 21:50, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Talk:Coins_of_the_United_States_dollar

Some bot keeps trashing the talk page of Talk:Coins_of_the_United_States_dollar can someone look into it? There is a new coin/bullion Morgan/Peace dollar coming out this year, and it may need to be added, but the bot keeps deleting the section to talk about how to add it to the page. shadzar-talk 12:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

FAR for Order of St Patrick

I have nominated Order of St Patrick for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Usage of coin colour templates

Hello numisticians, I thought I'd drop this thought I had here for some initial feedback, before I go on and propose something more formal, as I know this is a passionately watched category of articles. The three templates used to add colour to tables of coinage (Template:Coin-copper-color, Template:Coin-yellow-color, and Template:Coin-silver-color) are all applied as per the numistics MOS, with entire rows being coloured (example taken from MOS):

Prewar series - Regular issues (link to official page about this series if exists)
Image		Value	Technical parameters				Description			Date of
Obverse	Reverse		Diameter	Thickness	Mass	Composition	Edge	Obverse	Reverse	first minting	issue	withdrawal
		1 f	17.0 mm	1.0 mm	1.66 g	Bronze 95% copper 4% tin 1% zinc	Smooth	"MAGYAR KIRÁLYSÁG", Holy Crown of Hungary, year of minting	Indication of value, mintmark	1926	27 December 1926	31 December 1945

Couldn't we make it so that only the cells in the 'composition' column get the colour instead? This has two benefits, as I see it:

• The reader may be confused about why a row is seemingly arbitrarily coloured, but if it's just one cell, the contents of that single cell should make it very clear what the colour refers to
• I suspect minimising the use of coloured backgrounds will improve accessibility

Here's what it could look like:

Prewar series - Regular issues (link to official page about this series if exists)
Image		Value	Technical parameters				Description			Date of
Obverse	Reverse		Diameter	Thickness	Mass	Composition	Edge	Obverse	Reverse	first minting	issue	withdrawal
		1 f	17.0 mm	1.0 mm	1.66 g	Bronze 95% copper 4% tin 1% zinc	Smooth	"MAGYAR KIRÁLYSÁG", Holy Crown of Hungary, year of minting	Indication of value, mintmark	1926	27 December 1926	31 December 1945

I've made the above update 'manually', but I'd imagine the templates can be updated if there's consensus that this is a good idea. Any thoughts? EditorInTheRye (talk) 09:24, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

EditorInTheRye You make some valid points, but one problem I see with your proposal is that it would be impossible to color rows for bi-metallic coins, such as the Canadian $2 coin. - ZLEA _T\ 09:30, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

ZLEA That's a good point, I hadn't thought of that, actually. It's doable, but I'll be the first to admit that editing this table (taken from the article you linked) was rather painful (but then again others may be more at ease with wikitable markup than I am)...

Canadian coins
Image		Value	Technical parameters				Description			Common name	First minted	Discontinued	Withdrawal
Obverse	Reverse		Diameter	Thickness	Mass	Composition	Edge	Obverse	Reverse
		$2	28 mm	1.8 mm	7.3 g	Ring: 99% nickel	Intermittent milled/smooth	Queen Elizabeth II	Polar bear	Toonie	1996	2011	Still in use
						Centre: 92% copper 6% aluminium 2% nickel
					6.92 g	Ring: nickel plated steel	Intermittent milled/smooth/edge lettered		Polar bear with 2 security features		2012	Still produced
						Centre: aluminum bronze
These images are to scale at 2.5 pixels per millimetre. For table standards, see the coin specification table.

EditorInTheRye (talk) 10:05, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

EditorInTheRye Well, you addressed my only concern. I support this idea. - ZLEA _T\ 19:37, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Sur (currency)

I saw this article Sur (currency). It might be of interest to members of this project. Thriley (talk) 23:09, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I've moved it to draft, just like User:Onel5969 did. This is speculative and not ready for mainspace. This is better covered in Argentina–Brazil relations or Mercosur or even merged with Single South American currency rather than as a page on a hypothetical currency unit at this point. Reywas92 01:22, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at Misplaced Pages:No original research/noticeboard § Soviet Rbl

 You are invited to join the discussion at Misplaced Pages:No original research/noticeboard § Soviet Rbl. NotReallySoroka (talk) 14:31, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Potential edit war

Last year an edit war occurred at Egyptian pound resulting in the participants being blocked. One of the participants has re-edited the article away from the stable version to a form which is not supported by sources. Valethske (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Are you referring to The Currency Guy? If you're sure it's them, then report to AN/I for block evasion. Wehwalt (talk) 13:59, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

No, its MatthewS, he seems intent on adding abbreviations the sources don't use. Valethske (talk) 14:05, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

I appeal to @MatthewS. to engage here before editing the article again. Valethske (talk) 06:18, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Moderators, please check the info I posted on the Egyptian pound and judge for yourselves. Everything is referenced, in fact the £ currency sign is referenced by a historic record that the other contributor has used to back up their claim for the all-caps PT abbr. for "piastre," which I was initially wasn't convinced of, until I saw that reference and stood corrected, and changed all instances of small-case "pt" to "PT" all-caps as referenced by their ref historic record. But also the standalone £ sign is also used on that same document, proving that the pound sign is indeed a valid way to abbreviate Egyptian pound, and was so intended since the late 1800's. So I used this same reference to backup the use of the standalone £ sign for Egyptian pound where no confusion could be caused, for example where the context shows the Egyptian pound is what is intended. E£ is also commonly used online to specify Egyptian pound, and I have also provided references to back up that claim. Everything is referenced and the only reason I could imagine the other contributor would be in disagreement is a matter of personal opinion or preference, no more no less. MatthewS. (talk) 19:59, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

These abbreviations you insist upon are poorly sourced and are certainly not the most commonly used (the most common by far is LE, as demonstrated by all sources). Valethske (talk) 07:06, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Again, that’s your personal opinion. LE is no longer the most common one. E£ is very common nowadays, and “EGP”. Please stop reverting my edits MatthewS. (talk) 12:17, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

The Central Bank of Egypt (and pretty much all of the sources) uses "LE", your preferred "E£" does not seem to occur anywhere in reliable sources. If something cannot be demonstrated to be "the most common one" using reliable sources then it should not be used as the primary abbreviation. Valethske (talk) 12:20, 13 April 2023 (UTC)