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Happy Kalends of January

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		Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:05, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

File:Ascott House Front.jpg

Hello. I just want to know why you tagged File:Ascott House Front.jpg as keep local, even if there is a Commons copy and the building is located in a country with full FOP for buildings (c:COM:FOP UK). More so it is already in public domain since the renovating architect George Dewey has been deceased for more than 70 years. In my opinion keeping a local copy with the relatively-useless {{Ir-FOP}} tag is not reasonable now. The tag itself is already redundant to {{FoP-USonly}} which is the de facto active FOP template on enwiki today, used on unfree buildings of countries with no FOP (as enwiki only respects US law). Photos of US and UK buildings are almost accepted at Commons since both have FOP for architecture. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 06:35, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Hello JWilz12345. Unfortunately, some of us have had negative experiences with images being transferred to Commons. They have sometimes been confusingly modified, deleted, or renamed in ways that make it suboptimal. Keeping a local copy significantly reduces these issues. This has been a much more frequent issue in images that are uploaded with the intention to use them in relation to architecture articles. I hope you find this information useful. Risker (talk) 08:23, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

@Risker: perhaps {{FoP-USonly}} be the suitable tag? I cannot see the future utility of {{Ir-FOP}} since photos of buildings from countries with FOP (like UK) as well as virtually all U.S. buildings are also free for hosting on Wikimedia Commons any way. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 10:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)

Noticeboards

In regards to this comment , one reason might be how a lot of welcome templates link to the Misplaced Pages:Task centre nowadays? It explicitly mentions noticeboards. It's under "community". If you go to that, it lists every noticeboard we have with just one more click. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 04:46, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Hi Clovermoss, very nice to hear from you. But...maybe have a non-Wikipedian look at that page and see where they would go to get help. The part about noticeboards suggests that *intermediate* level editors could help others at noticeboards. I know there's no really good way to address this, but this might be something where we'd benefit from comparative newbies telling us what they would find most helpful. The basics of editing, but also...what kind of interactions they can expect, and where to go if they don't know how to handle them. Or something like that. It's something we've never really been good at, because by the time people know how to write the stuff up, we've already normalized a lot of things that are pretty weird to newbies. I don't have a good answer to this. But that template is a good idea! Risker (talk) 05:16, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

So typically when the task centre is mentioned in welcome templates it's in a "things you can do way". See this for an example. I stumbled upon this recently and have been thinking about how maybe something in this situation could be improved. I do think it can have the unfortunate side effect of someone going to a noticeboard and then more experienced editors are like "how do you know this exists?" I think it can be somewhat unfair when a lot of newbies can find that easily if they just read instructions. So I guess it's something I wanted to bring awareness to?

The usefulness of certain things in the welcome templates is a whole separate question. I've given a lot of thought to it myself. I get that the longer we've been around the harder it can be to understand a newbie's perspective on things, but I try. It's one of the reasons I've been trying out the Misplaced Pages app for the past several months... trying to understand what people are talking about when they reference it in Teahouse questions and trying to meet people where they are (typically the advice given is "don't use the app" but that's not always the answer they want). That's had the bonus of identifying a slew of technical issues just by observation but I don't want to get too far off topic if you're not interested. Anyways, something I always thought was a cool idea was User:Levivich/Help. I've always admired the simplicity of it and how easy it is to navigate and find what you're looking for compared to our categories full of help pages. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 11:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

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ASJ is in the news again due to a heraldic invitation design (link). This allows for more RS cites. Arlo James Barnes 17:20, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Risker, just to say thanks / apologies for the confusion last week, and to pass on two nice songs I think/hope you might like. Linda Ronstadt, and one that's very close to my experience in small towns Iris Dement. Best as always. Ceoil (talk) 21:39, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh ny goodness, Ceoil, what intriguing selections. The Linda Ronstadt song was written by Anna McGarrigle, and it was Kate & Anna McGarrigle who were singing with her. Kate was married at one time to Loudon Wainwright III, and they parented Rufus Wainwright and Martha Wainwright, both very talented singers. (Here's Rufus leading a 1500-person choir in singing Hallelujah ) Loudon went on to work with....you guessed it, Iris DeMent. The world is very small. Incidentally, the McGarrigles and Rufus and Martha Wainwright are all solidly Canadian icons, hailing from the Montreal area. Thanks for the links! Risker (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Woah, small world indeed. The Ronstadt song was a favourite of my mother-in-law (and played at her funeral) while the Iris track something I bonded with my own mother while a difficult young punk rocker when it came out....we saw it as a American version of (her beloved Dubliners) . Never knew the connections, and off into the music of the Wainwright family I go: Rufus is really grabbing me - love bathos! :). ....getting to the McGarrigles :) Ceoil (talk) 10:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I first ran into the McGarrigles one day at the cinema, back in the day when it was commonplace to have a short before the main film. It was back in 1979 (yeah, I know, you weren't even born then), and the short for the day was an NFB "Canadian vignette" called The Log Driver's Waltz, with a soundtrack by the McGarrigles. You can see it here. You're certainly getting plenty of Canadian content today. :D Risker (talk) 14:41, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh I was also visiting the cinema in 1979 don't worry; I'm just about old enough to remember The Beachcombers which hit Irish screens c 1978:) Very much taken with the McGarrigles; tunes and footage like this is are gold. Horizons broadened, thank you very much. Ceoil (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Two years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:54, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

No, I haven't entirely disappeared off the face of the earth...

I've had a couple of folks poke me to ask me where I've disappeared to. The short answer is that almost all of my volunteer hours (which seem to be piling up like nobody's business) have been focused on work with the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. I've been averaging 15+ hours/week for the last couple of months, not including a 10-hour-days weekend at the beginning of June. It's coming along well, I think, although I hope that members of this community take advantage of the different opportunities for review and comment on the draft chapters we'll be releasing in July: decision-making, Global Council, Hubs, and roles and responsibilities. We're also including a glossary this time around. Please. We know they aren't all the way there yet, and we need to get good, useful feedback on how to improve. The comment period runs until after Wikimania in August, and I'll post some links when they're up.

Once we get past that, it will take us another few months to cobble together everything else, get some more thoughts, work out how we're going to do the voting on this thing, and so on. So there's still much to do. But I think the pace will slow down after Wikimania. I hope so. I don't think I've ever said this before, but I'm almost looking forward to getting stuck into a couple of SPIs....

Still around, and I still follow up on this page, and check my watchlist pretty much daily. Risker (talk) 02:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

I do wonder and worry, given you are a brick of sense and an irreplaceable source of institutional knowledge. A tune to reflect tone Ceoil (talk)

Ah what a lovely tune, Ceoil! You know, I think this may be the first time that any woman appreciated being compared to a brick. :D Stay well, best to the fam. Risker (talk) 02:43, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

Just wanted to say thank you for staying in touch through difficult times - it means/meant a lot to me. — Ched (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

IP Block Exemption

Hi Risker. A couple of years ago you granted me an IP Block Exemption since I often edit on a corporate network that proxies its traffic through Google Cloud. That exemption expired last month, and I sent an email to checkuser-en-wp asking for a renewal, but I haven't heard back. I know you're not that active these days, but would you be able to renew my exemption? Thanks. --Ahecht (TALK
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Hi Ahecht. Have seen your request and have renewed your IPBE. Sorry about the delay on the VRT queue, the few of us who routinely do this have been very busy on other projects and it has fallen behind. I'm hoping to deal with that this weekend. Risker (talk) 21:40, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! --Ahecht (TALK
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What would it take to get more people working that queue? Is that a CU-only thing? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:04, 22 August 2023 (UTC)