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Unblock discussion-- proposed unblock conditions.
- @Drmies: A WP:TBAN on human sexually seems reasonable to me. Thoughts?
- @CheckersBoard: Disagreements are inevitable on a project of this size. Disengaging is good, but what other steps are available to avoid edit warring, angry editing, or incivility.
- Given the history of edit warring, WP:1RR seems reasonable.
- Zero tolerance for personal attacks Deepfriedokra (talk) 01:34, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, having read over the various unblock requests, I guess I'm fine with giving the editor another chance. I still don't really understand where all this anti-trans stuff comes from, and this talk page doesn't make it any clearer, and I wish they had actually addressed the specifics of what led them to talk to Fram that way. I come away with the idea that the user just really doesn't get what we found so problematic, so a gender/sexuality topic ban is reasonable.
But here is a bit of a problem--can they edit on a woman's sport? I don't think that a simple "no sexuality topics" will cover this easily. "You may not edit about or comment on matters of sexuality, gender, or gender identity" is a bit more like it. I mean, I don't want them to not be able to edit those ringette articles (though those are problematic for other reasons), but there are things they just shouldn't be talking about. Maybe EvergreenFir, who is smarter than me in that area, can help figure something out. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
The ringette was bothering me. Certainly that could be part of the TBAN unblock conditions.@CheckersBoard: Can you address Drmies concern about the way you talked to Fram?- So, zero tolerance for anti-trans stuff. (I know there are people who have a visceral response to that. It must not affect editing here.) Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:42, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- I left a note on Talk:Canada national ringette team, and made a few edits to the article with extensive edit summaries. They're not blocked for those articles, of course, and it's good to have an editor there who knows the material--but at the same time there are guidelines that need to be followed, and we can't have edit warring and whatnot in there. Thanks Deepfriedokra, Drmies (talk) 02:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- My pleasure. @CheckersBoard: If you are agreeable to these conditions and explain the Fram thing, I think we can unblock you. Deepfriedokra (talk) 02:58, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- I left a note on Talk:Canada national ringette team, and made a few edits to the article with extensive edit summaries. They're not blocked for those articles, of course, and it's good to have an editor there who knows the material--but at the same time there are guidelines that need to be followed, and we can't have edit warring and whatnot in there. Thanks Deepfriedokra, Drmies (talk) 02:47, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, having read over the various unblock requests, I guess I'm fine with giving the editor another chance. I still don't really understand where all this anti-trans stuff comes from, and this talk page doesn't make it any clearer, and I wish they had actually addressed the specifics of what led them to talk to Fram that way. I come away with the idea that the user just really doesn't get what we found so problematic, so a gender/sexuality topic ban is reasonable.
- According to wiki unblock policy I'm not supposed to comment on this or any other editor. CheckersBoard (talk) 08:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- To be clear, yes I have no issue being prevented from editing or commenting about areas dealing with gender and sexuality. I don't want to engage in edit wars over that subject, since the overwhelming majority of my editing has nothing to do with that anyways. Only problem I might run into: I tend to try to fix up/add refs to sports related articles where people need information about available categories for competing, ie., whether a sport has a male, female, and open/mixed category. This seems to be something people are interested in, but editors are already finding a way to address this quickly in the sports infoboxes which are right at the top of the article. It's been a bit confusing but I think with time people will figure it out. So male, female, mixed, open, separate etc., it seems to be a new standard practice to add that information in sports articles if that info is available. It can be tricky sometimes ie., sports usually develop a single sex category first with the opposite sex category and mixed/open categories developing later...usually depends on how long the sport has been around and how many people participate. But generally speaking infoboxes seem to be the best place to address this, short and quick, and no hassle or complaints. It's the best method I think I've seen so far. But again as to Fram, can't comment, not something that should be addressed in an unblock request, but I honestly can't see there being any conflicts between us moving forward, I think that's all water under the bridge now and everyone has just moved on. It's not that important. CheckersBoard (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Drmies: OK to unblock? I mean I could if this is OK. (not sure it is) Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, I think Checkersboard could have done a better job explaining themselves, and whether it's water under the bridge is really not for them to decide. But with restrictions, sure--we'll see how it goes. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- composing unblock conditions Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:41, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- RE: better job-- me too. Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:43, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Deepfriedokra, I think Checkersboard could have done a better job explaining themselves, and whether it's water under the bridge is really not for them to decide. But with restrictions, sure--we'll see how it goes. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- @Drmies: OK to unblock? I mean I could if this is OK. (not sure it is) Deepfriedokra (talk) 20:19, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- To be clear, yes I have no issue being prevented from editing or commenting about areas dealing with gender and sexuality. I don't want to engage in edit wars over that subject, since the overwhelming majority of my editing has nothing to do with that anyways. Only problem I might run into: I tend to try to fix up/add refs to sports related articles where people need information about available categories for competing, ie., whether a sport has a male, female, and open/mixed category. This seems to be something people are interested in, but editors are already finding a way to address this quickly in the sports infoboxes which are right at the top of the article. It's been a bit confusing but I think with time people will figure it out. So male, female, mixed, open, separate etc., it seems to be a new standard practice to add that information in sports articles if that info is available. It can be tricky sometimes ie., sports usually develop a single sex category first with the opposite sex category and mixed/open categories developing later...usually depends on how long the sport has been around and how many people participate. But generally speaking infoboxes seem to be the best place to address this, short and quick, and no hassle or complaints. It's the best method I think I've seen so far. But again as to Fram, can't comment, not something that should be addressed in an unblock request, but I honestly can't see there being any conflicts between us moving forward, I think that's all water under the bridge now and everyone has just moved on. It's not that important. CheckersBoard (talk) 21:50, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
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@CheckersBoard:Just to make sure we have the same understanding, these are the conditions under which I agree to unblock you.
- WP:TBAN on human sexually. (regular admin action. not a GS or DS)
- Use of WP:Dispute resolution for content disputes.
- 1 revert restriction
- Zero tolerance for personal attacks.
- Zero tolerance for anti-trans edits
Please affirm understanding and acceptance of these conditions..Deepfriedokra (talk) 22:54, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, I understand and accept the above restrictions. First of five refers to a topic ban which restricts editing articles dealing with human sexuality. Second involves instructions for dispute resolution involving content disputes. Third: only 1 revert allowed, not 2, not 3, only 1. Fourth, no ad hominem attacks. Last, absolutely no anti-trans edits. I'd also add that need to remember that all edits should first be considered to have been done in good faith since I have a habit of being quick to assume otherwise (another editor has patiently tried repeatedly to get this through to me prior to this block). CheckersBoard (talk) 03:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
- Unblocked. Welcome bac. Deepfriedokra (talk) 13:22, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
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- What are you doing? I said in Ringette "failed verification and irrelevant". I opened a talk page thread explaining that the reference is illegible. You restored the edit with the summary "Source is available, relevant and cited. You need to access the link, not sure if it's still there, I'll check" I didn't mean that the source was irrelevant, I meant that the information about other sports was irrelevant, but I can see how you could have misunderstood that. Having said that, you didn't look at the talk page, and the one hand you claim that the reference is available, but on the other hand you admit that you have not looked to see if the link is still available. Not impressive. Meters (talk) 19:53, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
- Was it my talk page or the article's talk page?? 0_0 I only found this thread now, I don't always stick to editing one page or topic. However, the problem has since been fixed: you reverted it so now it's proper. Btw, I noticed that the info I was including actually turned out to be redundant: I re-read the section, so it's a good thing you removed it. CheckersBoard (talk) 05:50, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
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You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Misplaced Pages, as you did at Ringette. I am getting very tired of having to check the sources for all of your edits. How many times do you have to warned for adding claims that are not in your sources? Meters (talk) 02:32, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Where in the ringette article have I done this? I just added a reference to the ringette article, it's sourced, its the origin of original goalie trapper and that was the only addition requiring a source. The unsourced claims you recently reverted were in the floor hockey article. I was trying to make a clarification, it wasn't supposed to appear as speculation but I guess it did. CheckersBoard (talk) 04:27, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- In addition the photos which were removed (fine by me, it's too peripheral) were in fact dated as 1986 at wikicommons, the date was not missing CheckersBoard (talk) 04:44, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- I was clear that this warning was for Ringette. Do you know how to go into the page history and see what an edit changed? Go and look at my edit. Look at the edits that you made prior to my edit. You added an unsourced claim to Ringette that Jacks invented his version of floor hockey in 1936. The year is not in the source that you provided. If you have a reliable source then restore the information with the source. If you don't have a reliable source for the year then don't add it. The floor hockey image was removed because it simply has no place in this article, but your caption claim that 1986 was 50 years after Jacks codified the rules is also unsourced. Meters (talk) 07:30, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- In addition the photos which were removed (fine by me, it's too peripheral) were in fact dated as 1986 at wikicommons, the date was not missing CheckersBoard (talk) 04:44, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- I looked up the source, you are correct, the North Bay Sports Hall of Fame webpage did not have the date. However, this date, 1936, WAS previously sourced before the recent, massive, cleanup and I remember reading it specifically, this is now I am able to remember the exact year. The original source must have been removed and the North Bay link must have only been added to support the claim that he had invented, what was called, floor hockey. I do have a source for the date, but it is from the Ringette Canada website. Although it's usually reliable, I recently discovered that site was recently rebuilt, so links to those pages now mean there is a risk that there will be information which no longer corresponds with the article...because the content on some of those pages have changed. As a result, I will only use archived copies from their older webpages because I can longer trust it. https://www.ringette.ca/inductees/sam-jacks/ CheckersBoard (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
- Here is the exact sentence: "In 1936 Jacks created the game of floor hockey, and developed the first set of rules, and was recognized by the Youth Branch of the United Nations for the creation of the game." CheckersBoard (talk) 11:50, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
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Hi, sorry only found this now, left a topic on your talk pages so either page can be used. No worries about copyrights btw lol, I actually wrote it myself, there is no plagiarism either. As for the rest of the article, it doesn't appear well sourced, so I should probably add sources to avoid future problems and not repeat the error. It's my first time editing that page. CheckersBoard (talk) 11:10, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- To be clear, was this the History of sports in Canada page, or did you mean the ringette page? I was referring to the history page. Recent edits made by me on the ringette page were sourced, but not the history page. CheckersBoard (talk) 11:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- not sure what your saying...? did you copy and paste from here to many pages? Moxy- 11:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- not sure what your saying...? did you copy and paste from here to many pages? Moxy-
- To be clear, was this the History of sports in Canada page, or did you mean the ringette page? I was referring to the history page. Recent edits made by me on the ringette page were sourced, but not the history page. CheckersBoard (talk) 11:12, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
- No, I've been trying to edit/fix/source/organize a variety of articles for a while, mostly different sports, but have landed on a lot of ringette related articles. As a result, it turned out to be easy to put together a few notes and paragraphs in the History of sport in Canada article without copying other articles but including notable parts/facts, etc. Btw, since I've been editing, I've never found any books on ringette that are currently still in circulation. It seems the few books that there are on the sport, are all out of print, so I can't copy anything from a book even if I wanted to. However, now that I looked at it, that history article o
is poorly sourced and not well developed, so I now think adding to the article didn't help matters. CheckersBoard (talk) 11:25, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
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Sam Jacks article
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Regarding the Sam Jacks article, I should still have that book. Will need to check through my library but I should be able to get the source. Appreciate you reaching out. Kind regards Mark Staffieri (talk) 15:41, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! No rush, just trying to hunt down sources. Turns out sourcing any related ringette topic is far more difficult than I thought it would be. Seems I can find news articles but actual books appear to be scarce. Thanks again :) CheckersBoard (talk) 14:55, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
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- Thank-you! It made need to be binned for sure, I'm not happy with it as it is, one ref isn't good enough even for a stub. Still trying to find more sources but I'm sure most are in French. Might be better to keep it in the sandbox. Pretty sure I'll have to find archived material for english refs, I'm sure they're floating around. I'll get on it asap. CheckersBoard (talk) 14:46, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
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Calgary RATH moved to draftspace
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Thank-you, I honestly thought there was more source material on this topic (since the team has apparently been around for some time) which was easily accessible online, but I've looked and I was mistaken. I'll have to look elsewhere. CheckersBoard (talk) 00:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
December 2022
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If you continue to disrupt Misplaced Pages, as you did at Ringette, you may be blocked from editing. Stop doing this. You were reverted. Either discuss it on the talk page or leave it alone. It is not a minor edit to restore a contested edit. Did you even read the garbage that you created? The edit makes no sense. It is impossible for a new sport to be created to maintain participation in itself. Meters (talk) 22:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I have no intention of reverting the last edit because you were correct. I don't know what I was thinking. I was trying to do too much at once. CheckersBoard (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- You are on a one revert restriction. You need to be much more careful about how you revert. Meters (talk) 22:33, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I have no intention of reverting the last edit because you were correct. I don't know what I was thinking. I was trying to do too much at once. CheckersBoard (talk) 22:25, 24 December 2022 (UTC)
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2023 World Ringette Championships moved to draftspace
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Netball
Please see my comments at Talk:Netball. The current version of the Olympic charter does not say anything about requiring a sport to have more men's teams than women's teams. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you. CheckersBoard (talk) 21:18, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Not vandalism
Hi CheckersBoard. You can certainly disagree with my removal at Women's sports, or Squeakachu's edit that removed the same material. That said, calling the edit "vandalism" is totally unwarranted. We gave our good-faith reasons. See WP:NORESVAND for why mislabelling like this counts as a personal attack. Anyway, it's an edit summary, so you couldn't strike it if you wanted to, but please be careful moving forward. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 01:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
World Junior Ringette Championships moved to draftspace
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