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Martin dennett

This was a non-notable biography as per the criteria set out in WP:BIO. You can use your userpage to tell other editors about yourself. (aeropagitica) 11:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Long Way Round

I can't find reference to "International SOS" in either the book or DVD of LWR. Please include a source or point out where this appears in LWR before reposting this information. Cheers, Deizio talk 11:49, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

International SOS was not mentioned as the company was not a 'Sponsor' of the event. It was paid for the services it provided. Please do not remove the edit again.

• Please ensure all edits are sourced, and the notability of commerical organisations verified. Check WP:ATT and WP:CORP. Oh, and please don't make comments such as "Please do not remove the edit again" without complying with Misplaced Pages policies yourself. Thanks, Deiz talk 13:39, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. Continuing to add unsourced or original content is considered vandalism and may result in a block. Deiz talk 13:56, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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1. I was directly involved in the contract signed between Intl. SOS and LWR. 2. This fact can be checked by anyone who wishes to contact either LWR or Intl. SOS

You do the readers of Misplaced Pages a disservice by falsely editing this page.

'Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism'

International SOS, revisited

If you cannot source your edits, they do not satisy our content policies. Good faith can be questioned when facts, especially regarding a commercial organisation which you appear to be involved with, are continually reincluded without sources. And as you admit you were involved in this deal, it would appear you have a conflict of interest. I know you're extremely keen to have this little nugget of information included in Misplaced Pages, but you have to do it by the rules. If you're claiming that unsourced facts in Misplaced Pages should be allowed "because you can just ring someone up and ask" you've got it wrong. And if you're referring to the warning above as "false", it forms part of Misplaced Pages's warning template structure, hence any discussion about its validity should be brought up at an appropriate talkpage. Deiz talk 13:01, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

if 'your' content policies promote the supression of facts then Misplaced Pages has no encyclopaedic merit.

You mention your sources as the book and DVD? Both commercial vehicles yes??

The fact is that you originally referred to Sergey as a 'fixer' as that it how he was 'presented' in the book. Why was my edit allowed to properly describe him as a Security Advisor.

Is it you sir that has the conflict of interest? Does your obsession with this 'documentary' lie with your desire to promote your own organisation - Scotland?

The book and the DVD are widely available factual, published sources, distributed by major corporations. Our content policies demand the verification of facts by reliable sources, not non-commercial ones. The New York Times isn't exactly a freesheet. I enjoyed both the book and series immensely, and took the article from a stub most of what it is today a good while ago. However, times have changed and I'm now far more experienced as an editor, as well as an administrator. Rest assured I have no personal interest (such as working for an involved company) in this debate other than keeping the article inline with WP policies. Deiz talk 13:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Why do you assume from anything that I have said that i work for International SOS? My involvement could be that I am a personal friend of either Sergey or Vasily, could it not? Your accusations are insulting.

If you insist on using the book and/or video as the only reliable sources then look at the company name emblazoned on the back of Vasilys coat.