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November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello BD2412:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

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Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

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Concern regarding Draft:Ancient India

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Note: I only created a redirect at this title, not the draft content at issue. BD2412 T 02:26, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Request

I've started a revamp of Misplaced Pages:Tools/Optimum tool set.

Please take a look and let me know if there are any essential techniques or must have tools that you think should be included.

Thank you.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:28, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

• @The Transhumanist: I think it is worth noting that AWB can also be used to create new articles from a list of redlinks, if you have database information to incorporate into them. BD2412 T 02:25, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
  • "Worth nothing", or "worth noting"? Also, what did you mean by "have database information to incorporate into them"? Thanks for the input, and I look forward to your clarifications.    — The Transhumanist   02:34, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
    • Fixed! Worth noting. I mean if you have some basic information to create a set of articles with content and a source. BD2412 T 02:39, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Astrological sign

Your recent edit of Astrological sign contained a wiki syntax error in the Hat Group. The rest of your edit was so useful (thank you) that I corrected rather than reverted. Please audit my corrections. OrewaTel (talk) 20:49, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@OrewaTel: Your edit is correct. The error appears to have been introduced by a bug in WP:AWB, which I will bring up on their message-board. BD2412 T 01:25, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Primary meaning of the character is the character

Hi BD2412,

I see you systematically made WP:RLOTE of Kangxi radicals the primary redirects to their radical meaning. It's generally preferred while they're actually not characters themselves but radicals of characters (similar to affixes of words) and in rare cases, they might not be the primary topic as a radical, if they can also be the characters. Comparing with -ing, an English suffix who has its own article while doesn't hold the primary topic at Ing. NmWTfs85lXusaybq (talk) 03:28, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

That sounds like something I would have done at some point. It's been a while since I worked on those, though. BD2412 T 03:32, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Why???

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

I love the fact that not only did you feel the need the need to cite this, but you chose an academic source instead of an encyclopedia entry or the like Mach61 (talk) 03:57, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Am I being trouted for providing a valid source for a point that arguably does not require a source? BD2412 T 04:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes. Mach61 (talk) 04:25, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

It would be a very interesting argument that comes to the conclusion that the citation was not required. I would love to hear it. OrewaTel (talk) 06:04, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question re my great-great-granddad

In this edit you indicate that judge Richard F. Lyon (judge) retired, but the article on him says he lost the election to Dawson A. Walker. Do you have clear source on this, so we can make it consistent? Dicklyon (talk) 16:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Dicklyon: You are entirely correct. I rather hastily misread the first paragraph of the source, which actually goes into extensive detail later on about the series of votes that resulted in this outcome. BD2412 T 16:58, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Thanks, great source! Except they call him "Lyons", an error that I still get plenty of these days, as that name is about 10X more common than Lyon. Dicklyon (talk) 17:26, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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Wives of Holy Roman Emperors

In theory some men who were later Holy Roman Emperors had wives who died or divorced before thry became Emperor. Whether such woman need to be in a category based on an office their husband only held after the marriage is an open question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 05:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

I tend to think not, but I also think that it is a very low priority issues. BD2412 T 15:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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Question

Would you be so kind as to undelete John Furth to my sandbox? I found a few more sources, and his being a book author will also help. Atsme 💬 📧 20:24, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Atsme: restored to User:Atsme/sandbox. Cheers! BD2412 T 21:19, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

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DRV close

Hi there, Misplaced Pages:Deletion review/Log/2023 November 18 is closed as consensus to refund to draftspace. Before I undelete Draft:Alex Zhavoronkov, are there any particular versions of Alex Zhavoronkov that you believe should also be refunded to draftspace in the history? Happy to be guided by you on the detail here, as you have (judging by deletion log) had one go at 'cleaning up the edit history'. Cheers, Daniel (talk) 10:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

• @Daniel: Thanks for asking! To retain the most correct course of the edit history, I would suggest restoring Draft:Alex Zhavoronkov first, then moving it over the mainspace article, then restoring the old history underneath, then moving the entirety back to draft without a redirect. I will be all set from there. Cheers! BD2412 T 13:02, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Should be all done (I did it by moving the article to draftspace first then undeleting the draftspace history, but should hopefully have achieved the same goal). Cheers, Daniel (talk) 18:42, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
    • That works, thanks again. BD2412 T 19:35, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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"Jain Agamas(Śvētāmbara)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Jain Agamas(Śvētāmbara) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 November 28 § Jain Agamas(Śvētāmbara) until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 06:20, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

• I have responded in the discussion, thanks. BD2412 T 17:58, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Undrafting?

I noticed you "undrafted" / removed from draftspace the drafts on the Delaware Supreme Court judges - I am wondering why did you do this / what does it mean? I found the drafts kind of helpful whenever I wanted to do one of them as they usually had some useful starter information. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:43, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

The ones that I removed are the Colonial-era judges, who likely do not meet the threshold of presumed notability afforded to state supreme court judges, and for whom I have not been able to find anything of use to otherwise demonstrate notability. We still have drafts for seven Delaware state supreme court justices. BD2412 T 01:30, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Colonial-era members are not given the NJUDGE pass that post-Colonial-era ones are? Wasn't aware of that. Though I'd bet there's some coverage on some of them; I have a few resources and books on historical Delaware people, so I'll check to see if any of them are covered. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:39, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

WP:NJUDGE by its terms applies to countries and states. I suppose an argument could be made for colonies. Feel free to work on these in my userspace. I would prefer not to have them in my queue to maintain as drafts when it I have had such a hard time finding/confirming basic biographical information. BD2412 T 01:45, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation

Hi BD2412 :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 02:12, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks! BD2412 T 19:40, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Notification of WP:BLPN item

Hello. Wanted you to be aware of this request for more eyes on the disagreement taking place at Emmanuel Lemelson. I hope wider community input can help us resolve the issue. - Swiss Mister in NY (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

• Noted. BD2412 T 04:06, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Ancient India

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Thanks for your submission to Misplaced Pages, and happy editing. Liz 04:08, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

• @Liz: Thanks, but this is not my draft. I merely redirected the title eons ago. BD2412 T 13:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Edward I move request

Hi, BD2412. Thank you for taking the time to go through that long-winded discussion. I do not wish to rehash the discussion, but would much appreciate if you could tell me which points of policy the opposing side correctly cited. It might help me formulate next requests. Surtsicna (talk) 17:05, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Where policy points were raised in the discussion itself, you argued with those raising them that the points had been refuted. I expect that any further citation to the policies raised, of which you are clearly already aware, would be met with a similar assertion of refutation. BD2412 T 17:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

I am curious whether you believe those points to have been refuted. You said both sides cited policy correctly but I fail to see how two very different interpretations of e.g. WP:RECOGNIZABILITY can both be correct. Surtsicna (talk) 20:51, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

You are here to rehash the discussion, then. WP:RECOGNIZABILITY is not a binary switch to be flipped. It is a matter of degree, and reasonable people can disagree as to the degree that a subject is recognizable. With respect to recognizability of ambiguous topics, titling must take into account how recognizable a title will be to readers most familiar with other uses of the same name. This is the persuasive case that needed to be made to those opposing the move in the discussion. BD2412 T 20:56, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

No, I am here seeking clarity that should have been provided in the closing comment. Those opposing the move made no link between ambiguity and recognizability. It was instead argued that "naming the kingdom increases recognizability" because "not everybody will know that there was no Richard II of Scotland". That argument is precisely the opposite of the one you are making now: WP:RECOGNIZABILITY was cited as the reason for disambiguating existing topics from non-existing uses of the same name. Surtsicna (talk) 21:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

As I said, you are here to rehash the discussion. As you clearly disagree with the close, please proceed to WP:MR. BD2412 T 21:27, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

I'd like to see a move review for this too. I get that the numbers were evenly split, but the oppose votes were so flawed they should have been discounted. WP:NCROY, for instance, was repeatedly misquoted and misinterpreted. – bradv 22:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

It just never ends, does it? Does everything have to be so drawn out and painful? It's been a month since the RM opened. If there was a consensus, it would have formed by now. It didn't. There wasn't. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:44, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the close, BD2412. Anyways, I think RMs concerning 'monarch' pages, should be limited to 'one' per month. GoodDay (talk) 22:45, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Mixed-gender bands has been nominated for deletion

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I disagree with the premise of this nomination, and have replied in the discussion accordingly. BD2412 T 20:57, 5 December 2023 (UTC)