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| Greetings. I see from your user page that you are interested in the anthropology of religion. I am too, and also in cognitive science of religion (CSR). | |||
| In this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Divorce_in_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=1190769371 you said in the summary: "true, but doesn't need to be inserted into the lede". I inserted it because I thought (and still think) it made the text better. Even if true, not needing to be inserted is not a reason for reverting it once it has been inserted. | |||
| IMHO, without that info, readers unfamiliar with Islamic law will likely think that this is a one man one woman situation, as it normally is in English speaking countries, and indeed, most countries. So it is unclear, or even misleading to have "the husband" and "the wife" as if there is always only one wife per husband, as in most countries. | |||
| I see that after reverting my edit, you made another edit, changing it to "a wife" and "a husband". The intention is good, and it goes some way to achieve what my edit did, but it is IMHO not a satisfactory substitute, because the reader who is unfamiliar with Islamic law will still likely assume that there only one wife allowed in Islam. These readers need to have that misconception dispelled IMHO. | |||
| Readers, such as myself, who *do* know (or have heard) that a Muslim man may have more than wife at one will be distracted by the absence of any reference to this, and likely will pause, wondering whether the law has been changed, or he or she was mistaken about this. Or, as I did, he or she may wonder whether the article is about a particular subset of Muslims, perhaps in a particular sect, or those in the US (who are presumably bound by US bigamy laws), who are *not* allowed to have more than wife (if that is the case - good question, that). ] (]) 20:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Deorphaning articles
Hello, Pepperbeast. I believe we've met before. I've seen your efforts to decrease the backlog of orphaned articles. In that matter, I'd like to give you a quick thanks for doing so. I have never met an editor as willing as you. Let's kill that backlog together, Tarantula (speak with me) (my legacy) 14:33, 27 October 2023 (UTC).
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Greetings. I see from your user page that you are interested in the anthropology of religion. I am too, and also in cognitive science of religion (CSR).
In this edit https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Divorce_in_Islam&diff=prev&oldid=1190769371 you said in the summary: "true, but doesn't need to be inserted into the lede". I inserted it because I thought (and still think) it made the text better. Even if true, not needing to be inserted is not a reason for reverting it once it has been inserted.
IMHO, without that info, readers unfamiliar with Islamic law will likely think that this is a one man one woman situation, as it normally is in English speaking countries, and indeed, most countries. So it is unclear, or even misleading to have "the husband" and "the wife" as if there is always only one wife per husband, as in most countries.
I see that after reverting my edit, you made another edit, changing it to "a wife" and "a husband". The intention is good, and it goes some way to achieve what my edit did, but it is IMHO not a satisfactory substitute, because the reader who is unfamiliar with Islamic law will still likely assume that there only one wife allowed in Islam. These readers need to have that misconception dispelled IMHO.
Readers, such as myself, who *do* know (or have heard) that a Muslim man may have more than wife at one will be distracted by the absence of any reference to this, and likely will pause, wondering whether the law has been changed, or he or she was mistaken about this. Or, as I did, he or she may wonder whether the article is about a particular subset of Muslims, perhaps in a particular sect, or those in the US (who are presumably bound by US bigamy laws), who are *not* allowed to have more than wife (if that is the case - good question, that). Polar Apposite (talk) 20:48, 20 December 2023 (UTC)