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Material from WikiLeaks was split to other pages. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter pages, and it must not be deleted so long as the latter pages exist. Please leave this template in place to link the article histories and preserve this attribution.

Information leaked by WikiLeaks (talk | history) on 9 December 2010
Reception of WikiLeaks (talk | history) on 17 November 2014

what section?

@Cambial Yellowing I am ok with you restoring this but the reason I removed In 2010, the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights expressed concern over what they referred to as a cyber war against WikiLeaks, and in a joint statement with the Organization of American States the UN Special Rapporteur called on states and others to keep international legal principles in mind. was it didnt seem like it related to the section topic and I didnt know where else it could go. Maybe WikiLeaks#Actions_against_WikiLeaks?

The other part you restored I agree is well sourced. I didnt think it was needed for the section and their reaction so I thought it could be trimmed for space but there was no problem with it Softlemonades (talk) 15:03, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

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"UN human rights chief voices concern at reported 'cyber war' against WikiLeaks" (Press release). United Nations. 9 December 2010. Archived from the original on 20 April 2014. Retrieved 28 December 2010.
"Joint Statement on WikiLeaks". Organization of American States. August 2009. Archived from the original on 27 December 2010. Retrieved 28 December 2010.

Wikileaks should be described in past tense

Since Wikileaks no longer works and documents can no longer be pulled up whether through search or direct links, all descriptions of Wikileaks should be changed to past tense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.1.63.216 (talk) 02:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

I think MOS:TENSE says we describe events in past tense but the article is in present

By default, write articles in the present tense, including those covering works of fiction and products or works that have been discontinued. Generally, use past tense only for past events, and for subjects that are dead or no longer meaningfully exist. Use past tense for articles about periodicals no longer produced, with common-sense exceptions.

Always use present tense for verbs that describe genres, types and classes, even if the subject of the description (e.g. program, library, device) no longer exists, is discontinued or is unsupported/unmaintained. Softlem (talk) 10:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

The article makes clear that WikiLeaks isn't publishing at the moment.--Jack Upland (talk) 03:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Date quote reported

We don't need to include the time, or the time after death, that a quote from JFK was reported by The New York Times. If it's on the page it should be sourced and given accurately. But such a detail is not relevant to the article. Cambial — foliar❧ 12:36, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Sources like the one about the password and the quote use the word reportedly to describe the quote. It uses that word twice and brings up the timeline

The password is a reference to a famous quote by former US President John F. Kennedy, reportedly given to a senior administration official one month before he was assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in 1963. According to the official, quoted in a New York Times report published three years after his death, Kennedy said he wanted “to splinter the CIA in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds”.

I agree it should be sourced and given accurately, and an inflammatory quote should have context. Saying who published and that it was years after the person died is normal Softlem (talk) 12:42, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

That source usefully points out the provenance of the password in the quote. More reliable sources, including The New York Times and the academic work cited, simply give this as a quote. The claim of three years is factually incorrect. There's no indication that it's "inflammatory". What do you think is the relevance of the date it was published to this article about Wikileaks? Cambial — foliar❧ 12:52, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

There's no indication that it's "inflammatory" A President allegedly saying the CIA should be shattered is not inflammatory? Am I understanding a word wrong again? Softlem (talk) 12:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

It's a quote from the US president about a proposed internal policy decision. What do you think is the relevance of the date it was published in a US newspaper of record to this article about Wikileaks? Cambial — foliar❧ 13:04, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Any quote first published years after someone died is questionable because they can't respond to it or deny it. If its inflammatory and we attribute it we should say when it was published or link to a wiki article that has context Softlem (talk) 13:10, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Move or rename Inadequate curation and violations of personal privacy

WikiLeaks#Inadequate curation and violations of personal privacy should be changed to Curation or moved to WikiLeaks#Editorial policy. Editorial policy has a response section. For NPOV it should have information about claims that WikiLeaks publications never hurt anyone added

WP:NPOV and WP:CSECTION Softlem (talk) 12:43, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Page size and changes

Two points:

Page size has now reached 114 kB. Policy says pages of > 100 kB should "Almost certainly should be divided or trimmed".
It is easier to follow changes when they are made in small increments.

Burrobert (talk) 06:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

I replaced a lot of the reception with a summary because of Reception of WikiLeaks

Size is now 96 kB Softlem (talk) 22:16, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

Typo.

Hello, i wanted to warn users with edit perm that in 2011–2015 section, the word "malware" is written as "mawlare". Rei Da Tecnologia (talk) 11:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

@Rei Da Tecnologia: I've fixed it. Mind matrix 13:55, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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