Talk:Paul Singer (businessman): Difference between revisions

Browse history interactively ← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisual WikitextInline

Revision as of 16:18, 16 February 2024 editWidefox (talk \| contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, Page movers, IP block exemptions, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers106,905 edits Assessment: banner shell, Biography, Politics (Rater)← Previous edit		Latest revision as of 21:10, 19 March 2024 edit undoStevenmitchell (talk \| contribs)Extended confirmed users, Pending changes reviewers18,936 edits →Billionaire term in lead sentence: ReplyTags: Mobile edit Mobile app edit Android app edit
Line 26:		Line 26:
	== Billionaire term in lead sentence ==		== Billionaire term in lead sentence ==
	I'd like to discuss and ultimately reach consensus about if the term "billionaire" should be placed as the first adjective in the lead sentence. A couple of editors have recently added it to the article, and since I've removed it, I thought it would be appropriate to encourage dialogue here. While it's an accurate term, and I have no problem describing a living person as a billionaire, I don't believe that term should primarily define a man or woman. And for that reason, it should not be the first term to describe a person in the lead sentence. Instead, I believe a reader should be presented with the source's source of occupation before the billionaire term is presented. I checked numerous other Misplaced Pages pages of well-known billionaires (], ], ], ], ], ], etc.) and found that philosophy was consistently employed there. The lead sentence uses adjectives that describes what they've done, not what they have. And while I understand that other Misplaced Pages articles do not a provide policy or guideline on this particular BLP, it does provide a meaningful example for consideration about how other editors have achieved consensus on this point. ] (]) 22:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)		I'd like to discuss and ultimately reach consensus about if the term "billionaire" should be placed as the first adjective in the lead sentence. A couple of editors have recently added it to the article, and since I've removed it, I thought it would be appropriate to encourage dialogue here. While it's an accurate term, and I have no problem describing a living person as a billionaire, I don't believe that term should primarily define a man or woman. And for that reason, it should not be the first term to describe a person in the lead sentence. Instead, I believe a reader should be presented with the source's source of occupation before the billionaire term is presented. I checked numerous other Misplaced Pages pages of well-known billionaires (], ], ], ], ], ], etc.) and found that philosophy was consistently employed there. The lead sentence uses adjectives that describes what they've done, not what they have. And while I understand that other Misplaced Pages articles do not a provide policy or guideline on this particular BLP, it does provide a meaningful example for consideration about how other editors have achieved consensus on this point. ] (]) 22:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

			:@] Paul Singer is a financial predator, who's distinguishing achievement is destroying other nations' finances. He is not known for any positive contributions to humanity, and as such, his achievement of being a billionaire would be his primary, if not his sole distinction. ] (]) 21:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

	== Biased language about paying fair share of taxes ==		== Biased language about paying fair share of taxes ==

Latest revision as of 21:10, 19 March 2024

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article is rated C-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Biography: Arts and Entertainment

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Misplaced Pages's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography
	This article is supported by the arts and entertainment work group.
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

Finance & Investment Mid‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Finance & Investment, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to Finance and Investment on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Finance & InvestmentWikipedia:WikiProject Finance & InvestmentTemplate:WikiProject Finance & InvestmentFinance & Investment
Mid	This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

New Jersey Low‑importance

	New Jersey portal This article is part of WikiProject New Jersey, an effort to create, expand, and improve New Jersey–related articles to Misplaced Pages feature-quality standard. Please join in the discussion.New JerseyWikipedia:WikiProject New JerseyTemplate:WikiProject New JerseyNew Jersey
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Politics: American / Libertarianism Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force.
	Libertarianism portal This article is supported by WikiProject Libertarianism (assessed as Low-importance).

United States Low‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions.

United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Archives

Archive 1	Archive 2	Archive 3
Archive 4	Archive 5	Archive 6
Archive 7

This page has archives. Sections may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 3 sections are present.

Owner of AC Milan

I believe Singer's relatively new ownership of AC Milan, one of the most storied soccer franchises, merits its own section. Plenty of press on the noteworthy purchase: https://nypost.com/2018/07/11/hedge-fund-billionaire-paul-singer-takes-over-ac-milan/ Any objections? If not, I'll create a short section for it. Some of everything (talk) 02:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Billionaire term in lead sentence

I'd like to discuss and ultimately reach consensus about if the term "billionaire" should be placed as the first adjective in the lead sentence. A couple of editors have recently added it to the article, and since I've removed it, I thought it would be appropriate to encourage dialogue here. While it's an accurate term, and I have no problem describing a living person as a billionaire, I don't believe that term should primarily define a man or woman. And for that reason, it should not be the first term to describe a person in the lead sentence. Instead, I believe a reader should be presented with the source's source of occupation before the billionaire term is presented. I checked numerous other Misplaced Pages pages of well-known billionaires (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckerburg, Elon Musk, Larry Page, etc.) and found that philosophy was consistently employed there. The lead sentence uses adjectives that describes what they've done, not what they have. And while I understand that other Misplaced Pages articles do not a provide policy or guideline on this particular BLP, it does provide a meaningful example for consideration about how other editors have achieved consensus on this point. Some of everything (talk) 22:57, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

@Some of everything Paul Singer is a financial predator, who's distinguishing achievement is destroying other nations' finances. He is not known for any positive contributions to humanity, and as such, his achievement of being a billionaire would be his primary, if not his sole distinction. Stevenmitchell (talk) 21:10, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Biased language about paying fair share of taxes

Under Career the following text is found: "Singer is also the founder and CEO of NML Capital Limited, a Cayman Islands-based offshore unit of Elliott Management Corporation that allows Singer to avoid paying a fair share of taxes."

The term fair share is subjective and as long as he is following the laws, there is no need to add this. I sounds like someone with an opinion (which I also hold) is taking a shot at Singer. I recommend we remove it.

New revelations about paying judges luxury journey and then the judge sentences in his favor in cases like Argentine´s soberan debt was made by AOC and must be added to the page. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.115.230.193 (talk) 11:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Please provide published sources to support your allegation concerning this "revelation". SPECIFICO talk 14:32, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Anyone else? 172.250.200.56 (talk) 01:24, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Categories: