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| :::::Please review ]; we don't delete articles based on whether they currently don't contain analysis. If you have a concern about a lack of analysis, the best approach would be to improve the article by adding such analysis. As the prior AfD concluded less than a year ago, Unicron is a notable subject. ] (]) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC) | :::::Please review ]; we don't delete articles based on whether they currently don't contain analysis. If you have a concern about a lack of analysis, the best approach would be to improve the article by adding such analysis. As the prior AfD concluded less than a year ago, Unicron is a notable subject. ] (]) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::::::That was procedurally kept because the nominator was blocked for CIR issues. I want to give it another shot. ] (]) 20:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC) | |||
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AFD request: Hey Everybody
It is an unnecessary disambiguation page per WP:ONEOTHER that could be replaced with hatnotes as there are only two pages with this title and it is already served with the parenthetical identifier. 128.82.18.1 (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
Done, see Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Hey Everybody (2nd nomination). StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 16:44, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
AFD Request: Southern Pacific class GS-3 & Southern Pacific class GS-5
No references on these articles, therefore these articles fail to meet WP:GNG
The notice "This article includes a list of references, related reading, or external links, but its sources remain unclear because it lacks inline citations." has been on the GS-5 article since December 2016 and nothing has changed.
The roller bearings on the two GS-5s were so successful that when both No. 4458 and No. 4459 were scrapped, they were examined and showed minimal wear
is written in a fan's point of view and not a neutral point of view and therefore to me, does not confer notability.
I would suggest that these would be drafted, but I think deleting them is the only solution. 194.223.33.176 (talk) 06:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Source formatting or tone are not a reason for AfD, so I 'm going to decline this one. SOmeone else may accept but in the mean time you're welcome to address both of those issues editorially. Star Mississippi 13:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Concur. Both articles have references, just not in-line citations. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:19, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Not done, lack of inline citations and minor tone issues are not reasons for deletion. Lack of inline citations is an issue with some articles only cited to books but is not a reason for deletion in and of itself. See WP:DEL-REASON for information on deletion reasons. StreetcarEnjoyer (talk) 16:55, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Cross Wiki notification of AfDs
When an article is deleted on en-WP but also exists on other Wiki's, should a notification be automatically posted on the article page (or talk page) of those Wikis?
For example, this article by a skilled UPE (i.e. lots of well constructed refs, but mostly unsuitable on close inspection) was deleted today Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Akuma Saningong on en-WP, but it still exists-created by the same UPE-on the French and German Wikis.
I have put a note on the talk pages of those wikis about the AfD but I wonder if this should be done automatically? thanks. Aszx5000 (talk) 12:46, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
Malformed AfD
Hi, can someone please fix the AfD for Honorary Chaplain to the King, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
AFD request
Please file an AFD for Kottankulangara Festival. The rationale is "Not large enough to split. A section already exists in the main article. Besides, article size is 6616 bytes (markup), fails WP:SIZESPLIT & WP:SIZERULE. Title is also somewhat misleading as Chamayavilakku is only one among multiple events held as part of temple festival." 157.46.158.170 (talk) 10:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Tomax and Xamot and Thunder Machine (G.I. Joe)
Occasional references does not make something notable 2605:B40:13E7:F600:D034:1B79:2140:1EDF (talk) 21:12, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
"Misplaced Pages:Articles for destruction" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect Misplaced Pages:Articles for destruction has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 May 1 § Misplaced Pages:Articles for destruction until a consensus is reached. Mondtaler (talk) 17:48, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD Request: Racial hoax
I would like to nominate Racial hoax for deletion with the following rationale:
- Non-notable concept. Any references to this term I can find ultimately lead back to a single author, Katheryn Russell-Brown, showing that this concept has not reached the level of notability for an article. There are a handful of notes about her work on it, but the little I can find is fairly surface level and doesn't add the sort of analysis that would be required for building a well developed, neutral article. Moreover, the vast vast majority of the article is WP:OR/WP:SYNTH, attempting to attribute documented cases to this concept, despite no other authors having done so. Strip that out, and also the "Concept" material which doesn't really discuss this as a concept, and this boils down to a single source.
Thanks in advance, 35.139.154.158 (talk) 22:28, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Dinobot (Beast Wars)
All that's here is primary sources, listicles, and toys. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:80D4:D0B3:B66:64D9 (talk) 00:50, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This article was previously up at AfD in August 2023; the discussion ended as Keep. Toughpigs (talk) 17:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Zordon
Really just says "he exists." 2605:B40:13E7:F600:A0A5:D7A8:85CC:1EBC (talk) 18:01, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This article has been at AfD three times and the discussion ended as Keep. The most recent was in May 2020. Toughpigs (talk) 17:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Ben Tennyson and Gwen Tennyson
Both have no real impact shown 38.15.33.113 (talk) 21:53, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
- Note: There was an AfD discussion about these pages in March 2022; the result was keep. Toughpigs (talk) 21:55, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
Hidden category: Pages where post-expand include size is exceeded
Once again, Misplaced Pages:Articles_for_deletion/Log/Today is not displaying a list of today's nominations. Instead, it has a link to Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 May 13. I wish people would leave the mostly harmless articles alone, like England women's cricket team in Ireland in 2024 alone (wait a few months and it will become a obviously notable topic) and concentrate on hoaxes and unverifiable claims. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 22:09, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD reguest for Lika O
The article does not meet the notability criteria and merit. The 1 source is not a reliable source that verifies notability. It is a forum like site for local community, which serves as self published blog.http://ruhollywood.com/2018/11/12/miss-russian-united-states/
4 source is a self published interview on an ads website, not reliable secondary source at all. http://www.spektrummagazine.com/fashion/getting-to-know-lika-osipova/
6 source is an article on a gossips site about dating life of a Russian media person, barelly mentioning the figure of the Misplaced Pages. https://www.eg.ru/showbusiness/66399/
Sources 7 and 8 are different links to the same poster to the city of the city. It is rather a primary sourse not a secondary source to verify notability. https://www.weho.org/home/showdocument?id=26793
Source 9 - a link to the so called LAF.It is not a film festival, it is a monthly paid competition, not recognized in media or the professional community. The link only mentions name of the person, and does not provide any evidence to verify notability. https://www.lafilmawards.net/single-post/june-2021
To summarize- 6 out of 9 sources used for the page do not meet even closely any possible notability verifications. The figure has barely any professional credits, zero recognition in American or Russian media beyond a self proclaimed pop star status. 2 2603:8000:B6F0:8A10:7412:7312:39D6:FAAA (talk) 05:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- I think it will be better if you request this from your @User:Demeter39G own account. Grabup (talk) 07:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- It keeps showing error my IP address is blocked, says it is proxi server. This thread only opens from new browser page.
- I have questions regarding this page as the only option to make an article there is submit it via payed partnership, at the bottom of it.
- https://patch.com/california/studiocity/miss-russian-la-beauty-pageant-to-be-held-at-romanov-s
- I agree that is the only article i find reliable. If there are more, someone can add them. https://www.kp.ru/daily/26016.4/2938494 2603:8000:B6F0:8A10:7412:7312:39D6:FAAA (talk) 08:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- There are also two sources which you missed and these are looking reliable.
- 1.https://patch.com/california/studiocity/miss-russian-la-beauty-pageant-to-be-held-at-romanov-s
- 2.https://www.kp.ru/daily/26016.4/2938494/ Grabup (talk) 08:01, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a reliable source. It is a bulletin board to submit paid news and advertisement.
- Demeter39G (talk) 16:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Gorgeous Geeks
Article was created by a user with same name as article, on 14 September 2009 (their only contribution to Misplaced Pages). Speedy deletion on creation day; First nomination on 28 January 2010-Keep. This organization article is missing independent, reliable sources to establish notability. The only reference is a dead link. After searching, found only social media, but no comprehensive, in-depth coverage of this specific organization. Please submit for "Second nomination" as I'm not sure how to do this correctly. Thanks. JoeNMLC (talk) 12:27, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Let me note that the other article raised at the previous AFD is available in archive, to whatever degree that matters. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 13:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
Cancelled - A reference was added sufficient to provide notability. Regards, JoeNMLC (talk) 12:53, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
AFD request: Unicron
"He is large." That's mostly it. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:E1EB:7896:3BB9:E89F (talk) 02:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- The article was previously nominated less than a year ago. Have you reviewed that AfD, and if so, why do you feel a re-nomination is needed? DonIago (talk) 03:21, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Like I just said, the main pseudo-notable thing about him is that he's really big. There's no actual analysis. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 13:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't actually answer my questions. DonIago (talk) 13:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- A re-nomination is needed because there's no analysis here. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please review WP:BEFORE; we don't delete articles based on whether they currently don't contain analysis. If you have a concern about a lack of analysis, the best approach would be to improve the article by adding such analysis. As the prior AfD concluded less than a year ago, Unicron is a notable subject. DonIago (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- That was procedurally kept because the nominator was blocked for CIR issues. I want to give it another shot. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 20:49, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please review WP:BEFORE; we don't delete articles based on whether they currently don't contain analysis. If you have a concern about a lack of analysis, the best approach would be to improve the article by adding such analysis. As the prior AfD concluded less than a year ago, Unicron is a notable subject. DonIago (talk) 17:52, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- A re-nomination is needed because there's no analysis here. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- You didn't actually answer my questions. DonIago (talk) 13:36, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Like I just said, the main pseudo-notable thing about him is that he's really big. There's no actual analysis. 2605:B40:13E7:F600:81AF:FB54:24F5:260E (talk) 13:17, 15 May 2024 (UTC)