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It has been proposed in this section that Al-Awda school attack be renamed and moved to July Abasan al-Kabira airstrike. A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil. Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly. Links: current log • target log • direct move

Al-Awda School massacre → July Abasan al-Kabira airstrike – The current descriptive title is inaccurate, and violates WP:NCENPOV. The airstrike took place outside the school, and few sources refer to it as a massacre. The proposed descriptive title is more compliant with both WP:CRITERIA and WP:NPOV BilledMammal (talk) 14:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Support per nom. Sourcing is weaker than the other massacre articles. Jdcomix (talk) 01:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support The term 'massacre' seems overly dramatic based on the sources. Waqar💬 19:06, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose 53 deaths is pretty dramatic. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 19:41, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose "airstrike" as such a title minimizes the killing of 31 people, as a violation of WP:NPOV. Instead suggest Al-Awda School attack. That is consistent with Al-Sardi school attack.VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 22:02, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

  Second VR's suggestion. People who think that Israel is deliberately targeting civilians will favor "massacre," people who deny will favor "airstrike". Both violate NPOV. "School attack" specifically describes what happened while not stating why it happened. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 01:13, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  Why? Airstrike is just more precise than attack, reflects the sources, and is consistent with articles like Al-Fakhoora school airstrikes.

  I don’t see how making the form of attack clear introduces NPOV issues. BilledMammal (talk) 01:19, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  It's omitting the word "school" that I find problematic. Isaac Rabinovitch (talk) 01:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

  Sources say the airstrike was outside the school. BilledMammal (talk) 01:57, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Support as the sources seem to mostly use the word strike. Al-Awda School Strike or Al-Awda School Attack would also work. Alaexis_¿question? 08:00, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose - sources are focused on the attack on the school. NBC News, Al-Jazeera, CBC for example. This is obfuscating what was attacked. nableezy - 12:02, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

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