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The infobox currently lists all deaths and injuries in Lebanon on the side of Hezbollah, which is problematic for obvious reasons (we don't know how many of those killed were civilians or militants). ] (]'''-''']) 21:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC) The infobox currently lists all deaths and injuries in Lebanon on the side of Hezbollah, which is problematic for obvious reasons (we don't know how many of those killed were civilians or militants). ] (]'''-''']) 21:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

:Yup. Pro israel editors hard at work already. ] (]) 21:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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Wikivoice for Israeli claims

Please don't use wikivoice for Israeli claims that are not independently confirmed.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

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While the strikes did happen in both Israel and Lebanon, it appears the damage is totally asymmetric. All of the deaths appear to be in Lebanon. This looks less like cross-border fire and more like a large-scale attack by Israel.VR (Please ping on reply) 17:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't disagree, but it's also important to mention that the IDF is totally indiscriminate (ie openly targeting civilians) and their military censors hide a lot. So it's unclear just how much damage israel has incurred on the other end as they don't let anyone report on it. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 18:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Please provide sources that say what you wrote above.VR (Please ping on reply) 20:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
No need, WP:ARBECR applies as this is within the Arab-Israeli conflict topic area, so the IP should just restrict themselves to edit requests which their previous message clearly isn't. Nil Einne (talk) 20:07, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Right, it's just a response to what the previous person said. It's less than an edit request even and as such shouldn't be seen as a rules violation. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
All I'm saying is that they have a military censor and that it's reasonable to assume that they hide losses in personnel and material both in Gaza and on their border with Lebanon. I don't think there's any one source that'd sum that up. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
replying to myself but it's something they've done many time before and over the past year. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:15, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

ITN Main Page headline

Could this be featured in the ITN Main Page with a headline? 70.26.38.100 (talk) 18:25, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Hezbollah Casualties vs Civil Casualties

As of now, Hezbollah only published the identity of a single member. The vast majority of the killed are civils. In some attacks, entire families were killed. InfiniteValrath (talk) 21:04, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Seconded. The "losses" section needs to be edited, it makes it look like all the people killed by israel "are Hezbollah" when that's clearly not the case. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:06, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Please keep in mind that it's higly unlikely that Hezbollah would report their true losses, and thereby admit how hard Israel hit them. It is way easier to present such losses as "civilian casualties". — Sundostund mppria 21:28, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
stop deleting my responses to your faulty reasoning. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Problematic infobox

The infobox currently lists all deaths and injuries in Lebanon on the side of Hezbollah, which is problematic for obvious reasons (we don't know how many of those killed were civilians or militants). Nythar (💬-🍀) 21:46, 23 September 2024 (UTC)

Yup. Pro israel editors hard at work already. 99.237.230.117 (talk) 21:47, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
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