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:Deadline is a reliable source, so it should be re-added back, as Grande is still the most streamed artist overall as of 2021, and there has been no other source claiming otherwise since then. @] ] (]) 19:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC) :Deadline is a reliable source, so it should be re-added back, as Grande is still the most streamed artist overall as of 2021, and there has been no other source claiming otherwise since then. @] ] (]) 19:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

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Why is he not in her article? She is in his. Seems lacking. If I try to add him to the personal section with a good cite will it be reverted? Timan123 (talk) 16:13, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

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Change "selling one bottle every eleven minutes" to "selling one bottle every eleven seconds".

In the fragrances section, it says that her "cloud" fragrance is sold 'every eleven minutes' in Ultra whilst it should actually be 'every eleven seconds'. The website cited also claims it is every eleven seconds, so it is just a matter of wronly typed. Elapiedra (talk) 11:39, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 21:02, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Move information

I made a request a while ago but completely forgot about it; I request that this paragraph “Grande's various awards include two Grammy Awards, one Brit Award, two Billboard Music Awards, three American Music Awards, nine MTV Video Music Awards, and 36 Guinness World Records. Rolling Stone named her one of the greatest vocalists of all time.” - Be moved from the opening of the page to the lowest paragraph in the opening of the page before Early Life citing Grande’s various achievements in her career span. It makes the page look instantly messy with too many links upon first glance.

I think adding it after “… was the most-streamed female act of the 2010s and has the second most songs with over a billion streams for a woman on Spotify, with 14.” would be better. Like the person who responded to my original request said, it would be consistent with other pages of popular artists such as Taylor. Thanks in advance !!! Olivergrandeee (talk) 16:40, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

@Olivergrandeee:  Done! Pointing out the strong lead formatting present on Taylor Swift was a good suggestion. Thank you! ~ Pbritti (talk) 02:21, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

Link to Giselle

This is a minor thing I noticed, but in the 'Awards and Recognition' section, Giselle of Aespa is noted to have said Ariana Grande is an influence. While Aespa is hyperlinked, Giselle is not. She has a page, however, so I was wondering if someone could link it?Theskyisindeedindigo (talk) 22:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

@Theskyisindeedindigo:  Done. Thank you for the suggestion. Aoi (青い) (talk) 22:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Lead update and more

@Ben0006 I noticed your changes on Grande's lead. I don't think "The Voice" should be added, as her stint on there was very brief and for only for one season. The last paragraph is more reserved for her acting duties, with the Wicked movies coming up.

Also, Grande has sold 90 million records, which is also sourced and listed in here, and she now ties Rihanna for the most songs with one billion streams, and has won 10 MTV Video Music Awards. Months ago, the sentence "all of her studio albums have been certified platinum or multi-platinum by the RIAA" was removed, as her most recent album wasn't platinum. It was certified platinum this month, so it should be re-added too.

The last sentence of the first paragraph ends very abruptly. Maybe add "she is noted for her four-octave vocal range and her signature use of the whistle register, while her personal life has been subject of widespread public interest", as Grande's private has been heavily discussed by the media, since the beginning of her career, especially in recent years with her divorce and relationships. Mirrored7 (talk) 19:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I removed the part about "The Voice". But I came to find out it isn't mentioned anywhere in the prose. Shouldn't it be?

I updated the statistics.

The last sentence of the first paragraph would become: "Regarded as a pop icon and an influential figure in popular music, she is noted for her four-octave vocal range and her signature use of the whistle register, while her personal life has been subject of widespread public interest."
What do you think about the sentence structure-wise? Is it fine or should it be split or redone?
Ben | he/him (talk) 20:37, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I meant. Also, you forgot to include "the" before "RIAA diamond-certified". Mirrored7 (talk) 20:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm fine with the most of these edits, but I really don't think interest in Grande's private life is second-sentence-in-lead-worthy. Aoi (青い) (talk) 20:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Why? Just last year her divorce was widely discussed in the media. No to forget Manchester in 2017, the overdose of her ex-boyfriend in 2018 and her song "Thank U, Next" making a big impact in media and pop culture. She literally gets extensive media coverage every time she's in a new relationship or breaks up, same as Taylor Swift. She is also one of the most followed artists on social media and her fashion sense and ponytail are widely seen as "iconic". Mirrored7 (talk) 20:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm not saying any of this isn't notable (or even that it shouldn't be in the lead at all), but I disagree that it's important enough to merit inclusion in the second sentence of the lead paragraph. Aoi (青い) (talk) 21:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Well, then let at least move "Rolling Stone named her one of the greatest vocalists of all time" to the first paragraph, just to establish it more. Mirrored7 (talk) 21:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
This was moved further into the lead per this thread above. I did not participate in that discussion but will note that singling out a specific publication in the opening paragraph seems to go against MOS:OPEN, which cautions against going into specifics in the opening paragraph. It also appears to give undue weight to a single publication. Aoi (青い) (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Yeah, now that you mention it. @Ben0006
This was removed back in Spring for unexplained reason. It should definitely be a re-added back.
In September 2021, she joined as a coach of the twenty-first season of The Voice; Grande became the highest-paid coach in the show's history, earning a reported $25 million per season. Mirrored7 (talk) 20:50, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Added!
Ben | he/him (talk) 05:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! Mirrored7 (talk) 05:55, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
@Ben0006 While I appreciate your most recent changes, I think, "has over 100 million certified units (album and songs) sold in the US", in the lead is too much info, as it's already in the Achievements section and the lead is getting to long, so "all of her studio albums have been certified platinum or higher by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and she is among the fifth-highest-certified female digital singles artist on their Top Artists (Digital Singles) ranking."
Also, Grande has now the MOST songs with over a billion streams for a woman on Spotify, in a tie with Rihanna and she has sold over 131 million units, across albums, singles, and features, not 108. Mirrored7 (talk) 05:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
I removed the units sentence in the lead and added about the tie with Rihanna.
Regarding the number of the units, 108 million is the total number of RIAA certified sales, albums (12 million) and singles (95.5 million) combined, according to the RIAA database. However, it does not take into account certified units as a feature.
So, is 131 million the number including features, what you mean?
I also noticed that "Bang Bang", which was certified diamond in May, is not included in/added to her certifications? The diamond units was stated as 0. And she is a co-lead artist on the single, not a feature.
Ben | he/him (talk) 06:38, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
The units are in here, when you go directly after her name. I'm pretty sure, that's the number when you count the features. There should be a note to search Grande's features in the database, so there will be no misunderstanding, or it could be misleading. Mirrored7 (talk) 08:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Chappell Roan recently stated admiration for Grande, describing herself as "an Arianator". Maybe add her to the artists, Grande has influenced. Mirrored7 (talk) 09:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Don't really understand your problem. What does that have to do with the lenght of Grande's career, when in fact, the streaming era started less than ten years ago and she is one of the most streamed artists of all time. When does "all the time" work? When she is about 50 and 30 years in her career? Many artists have "all the time" in their lead and their doing it way less years in their careers than her. Is their any rule for that, or is that your opinion? @Escape Orbit Mirrored7 (talk) 05:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
@Mirrored7 I don't know why you have dropped this into the middle of another discussion. If you have a question for me, please introduce it in proper context to explain what you are referencing. Would also appreciate it not being personalised as "your problem". This page is to discuss improvements with the article. Thanks. Escape Orbit 08:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
@Ben0006 When I think about it, re-add "and has over 131 million certified units sold (across album, songs and features) in the US". Just mention the features too, so there will be no confusion.
Grande and Rihanna are now both the female artists with the MOST songs with over a billion. It reads SECOND-most.
Add more information to Eternal Sunhine. Maybe "After a musical hiatus, Grande ventured into dance music on her seventh album, Eternal Sunshine (2024), which received critical acclaim and produced the number-one singles "Yes, And?" and "We Can't Be Friends (Wait for Your Love)". It became her fourth consecutive number one album on the Billboard 200.
Restructure the paragraph about informations about her Spotify achievements:
"On Spotify, Grande was the most-streamed female act of the 2010s, has the second-most songs with over a billion streams for a woman, with 16, and is the second-most streamed female artist on the platform, as of 2024."
Remove specific Instagram follower number, as many celebrities are losing followers right now, because of the removal of spam accounts and just mention that she is "the third-most-followed female and sixth-most-followed individual on Instagram".
Re-add "ever" behind "one of the most streamed artists, as the conversation is about whenever to add "all the time". Mirrored7 (talk) 05:39, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
The source of 98 billion streams was randomly removed back in Spring. @Flabshoe1
Deadline is a reliable source, so it should be re-added back, as Grande is still the most streamed artist overall as of 2021, and there has been no other source claiming otherwise since then. @Ben0006 Mirrored7 (talk) 19:48, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

bts

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT BTS IS GAY? IMEAN THEY AINT BAD AT ALL INFACK I ALSO WANNA BE A SINGER 1 DAY , I STILL GOT 6 MORE YEARS OK U CUD SAY ABT 7 CZ ITL TAKE ME 1 YR TO SAVE UP TO STUDY PLUS I MUST STUDY THEN WRITE MY OWn songs nd stuffffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!¡!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 41.114.252.173 (talk) 20:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

  1. Swaroop, Ananya (April 1, 2021). "Ariana Grande Is the Highest-Paid Coach in 'Voice' History—Here's Her Salary & Net Worth". Yahoo!. Archived from the original on November 10, 2021. Retrieved January 19, 2022.
  2. "Ariana Grande & Cynthia Erivo To Star In 'Wicked' Musical For Universal". November 5, 2021. Archived from the original on November 28, 2021. Retrieved November 15, 2021.
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