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Isn't the photo used a bit too obviously propagandist? He looks mean and "in-your-face" and grumpy. Isn't this just a very basic, a very crude way of immediately portraying him as a villain?

I'd think the article- or the man's works themselves- would do a proper job of displaying him for, well, himself. Having an unflattering picture, while it works on "the plebs", will have the opposite effect on the sort of people who might actually bother reading him.

How about finding a neutral picture? Something that doesn't bias the reader one way or the other?

(Sorry if my editing isn't proper; I very, very, very rarely engage in this sort of thing)

I think I "sign" with three+ tilde signs? ] (]) 03:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)





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(Top) 16,060 16,060
Early life 3,299 3,299
Student years 2,000 5,513
Carnival Times article 3,513 3,513
The Destruction of Dresden 5,470 6,073
1963 burglary of Irving's flat 603 603
Subsequent works 5,168 5,168
Revisionism 17 13,736
Hitler's War 4,701 4,701
Irving's work in the late 1970s and early 1980s 4,954 4,954
Hitler Diaries 3,400 3,400
Other books 664 664
Holocaust denial 21 43,175
Movement towards Holocaust denial 21,567 21,567
Ernst Zündel trial 8,336 8,336
Holocaust denial lecture circuit 13,251 13,251
Racism and antisemitism 4,399 4,399
Persona non grata 5,365 28,974
Libel suit 5,421 5,421
Life after the libel suit 11,498 11,498
2009 Norwegian Festival of Literature 6,690 6,690
Reception by historians 4,897 4,897
Personal life 1,715 2,460
Illness 745 745
In popular culture 1,918 1,918
Works 2,508 2,508
See also 157 157
References 15 10,265
Explanatory notes 48 48
Citations 533 533
Bibliography 7,114 7,114
Reviews 342 342
News articles 2,027 2,027
Film 186 186
External links 1,953 1,953
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Photo

Isn't the photo used a bit too obviously propagandist? He looks mean and "in-your-face" and grumpy. Isn't this just a very basic, a very crude way of immediately portraying him as a villain?

I'd think the article- or the man's works themselves- would do a proper job of displaying him for, well, himself. Having an unflattering picture, while it works on "the plebs", will have the opposite effect on the sort of people who might actually bother reading him.

How about finding a neutral picture? Something that doesn't bias the reader one way or the other?

(Sorry if my editing isn't proper; I very, very, very rarely engage in this sort of thing)

I think I "sign" with three+ tilde signs? 85.220.85.93 (talk) 03:51, 11 October 2024 (UTC)


Hitler's possible motives for not signing the July 31 "final solution" order and instead apparently delegating this task to his deputy Goering.

This following addition-revision of the text should be added after my previous suggested edit of the text concerning the date of Hitler's decision to authorize a "total solution" of the Jewish question. "No historian of any repute professes to know why hitler delegated the signing of the "final solution" and "total solution" order to his deputy Goering rather than signing it himself. We sugtgest that perhaps Hitler realized the criminal nature of the order, and felt more comfortable ordering his deputy to sign the order rather than doing so himself. 2603:7000:CF00:1202:28FD:F1E1:5F4E:12BA (talk) 14:57, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

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Requires n doord comma. 64.189.18.44 (talk) 15:22, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 16:40, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

uncited claim about divorce

In the article, it states that "Irving's affairs caused his first marriage to end in divorce in 1981." - but there is no citation. I think this should be removed as per WP:BLP. 45.178.73.82 (talk) 21:02, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

GA concerns

I am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria. Some of my concerns are listed below:

  • At over 11,000 words, WP:TOOBIG suggests that it might be split up or summarised more effectively.
  • The article relies too much on block quotes: removing and summarising these will help reduce the article length.
  • There are many sources listed in the bibliography that are not used as inline citations: these should be considered for their inclusion or removed.
  • Some sections are too large and should be broken up with headings.

Is anyone interested in fixing up this article, or should it go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 02:56, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't think the problem is as great as you lay out. The article is written well, and covers a lot of territory with appropriate detail. 156 kb isn't outlandishly big. WP:TOOBIG says "the scope of a topic can sometimes justify the added reading material."
The GA version in 2011 contained block quotes, too. The block quotes convey a great deal of information including Irving's deeply hateful tone, which would disappear if summarized.
Feel free to reduce the bibliography. Binksternet (talk) 03:52, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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