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::::She literally hasn’t referred to herself as “Grandee” since this interview. In every interview shes done since (most recently Wicked press) It’s Grahn-day. It shouldn’t be changed because that’s how everyone (including herself) pronounces her name now. ] (]) 22:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
::::She literally hasn’t referred to herself as “Grandee” since this interview. In every interview shes done since (most recently Wicked press) It’s Grahn-day. It shouldn’t be changed because that’s how everyone (including herself) pronounces her name now. ] (]) 22:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::+ Plus that Beats interview is already referenced in a note next to her name ] (]) 22:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::+ Plus that Beats interview is already referenced in a note next to her name ] (]) 22:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
::::::It's bullshit and you know it. You Misplaced Pages nazis suck. ] (]) 08:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
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This is a minor thing I noticed, but in the 'Awards and Recognition' section, Giselle of Aespa is noted to have said Ariana Grande is an influence. While Aespa is hyperlinked, Giselle is not. She has a page, however, so I was wondering if someone could link it?Theskyisindeedindigo (talk) 22:23, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
@Ben0006 I noticed your changes on Grande's lead. I don't think "The Voice" should be added, as her stint on there was very brief and for only for one season. The last paragraph is more reserved for her acting duties, with the Wicked movies coming up.
Also, Grande has sold 90 million records, which is also sourced and listed in here, and she now ties Rihanna for the most songs with one billion streams, and has won 10 MTV Video Music Awards. Months ago, the sentence "all of her studio albums have been certified platinum or multi-platinum by the RIAA" was removed, as her most recent album wasn't platinum. It was certified platinum this month, so it should be re-added too.
The last sentence of the first paragraph ends very abruptly. Maybe add "she is noted for her four-octave vocal range and her signature use of the whistle register, while her personal life has been subject of widespread public interest", as Grande's private has been heavily discussed by the media, since the beginning of her career, especially in recent years with her divorce and relationships. Mirrored7 (talk) 19:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
I removed the part about "The Voice". But I came to find out it isn't mentioned anywhere in the prose. Shouldn't it be?
I updated the statistics.
The last sentence of the first paragraph would become: "Regarded as a pop icon and an influential figure in popular music, she is noted for her four-octave vocal range and her signature use of the whistle register, while her personal life has been subject of widespread public interest."
What do you think about the sentence structure-wise? Is it fine or should it be split or redone?
Why? Just last year her divorce was widely discussed in the media. No to forget Manchester in 2017, the overdose of her ex-boyfriend in 2018 and her song "Thank U, Next" making a big impact in media and pop culture. She literally gets extensive media coverage every time she's in a new relationship or breaks up, same as Taylor Swift. She is also one of the most followed artists on social media and her fashion sense and ponytail are widely seen as "iconic". Mirrored7 (talk) 20:59, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm not saying any of this isn't notable (or even that it shouldn't be in the lead at all), but I disagree that it's important enough to merit inclusion in the second sentence of the lead paragraph. Aoi (青い) (talk) 21:08, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Well, then let at least move "Rolling Stone named her one of the greatest vocalists of all time" to the first paragraph, just to establish it more. Mirrored7 (talk) 21:13, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
This was moved further into the lead per this thread above. I did not participate in that discussion but will note that singling out a specific publication in the opening paragraph seems to go against MOS:OPEN, which cautions against going into specifics in the opening paragraph. It also appears to give undue weight to a single publication. Aoi (青い) (talk) 21:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Grande is now the female artist with the most songs over one billion streams on Spotify, with 17. Update. @Ben0006
Alos, add, "She was declared the Top Global Female Recording Artist of 2018 by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI)", to her "Achievements" section.
Also, remove "On the Billboard 200 decade-end chart of the 2010s, the album ranked at number 68" and "the fourth-best-selling album by a woman", as number 68 and fourth-best selling, aren't that significant. Mirrored7 (talk) 10:26, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
It does not explicitly state that she was honored with that specific title. However, it can be added that she was one of the top 10 global recording artists of 2018 (#8), 2019 (#6), and 2020 (#8), and she was the top or highest-ranked woman in the list of 2018 (second being Lady Gaga at #9).
1. Yes. Also, don't forgot the Pop Airplay info. Add them both in the Achievements section. She is also now the female artist with the most songs with over a billion streams on Spotify. Add in the lead. @Ben0006
2. Career section: It's enough to mention, that she was on SNL twice, performing and hosting, and she performed at the MET Gala with Cynthia Eviro this year. However, I would remove unnecessary details like the songs she performed. Also remove, YouTube session info, as it was insignificant to her career and only promotion. That too, "Grande performed a medley of "Imagine", "My Favorite Things", "7 Rings", and "Thank U, Next". Source: https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/snl-season-50-hosts-ariana-grande-john-mulaney-michael-keaton-1236149087/
3. Revert the change, that was made back in early August with combining the Achievements and Impact section, now "Awards and recognitions". Both should be apart, as Grande is a significant figure who has made enough impact on pop culture.
4. "tying with Justin Bieber for the third-most chart-toppers and with Maroon 5 for the third-most top-tens. With 30 weeks at number one across her ten leaders, she has the seventh-most weeks at the summit." and "In February 2021, "34+35" replaced "Positions" at the top spot of the Pop Airplay chart, making Grande the first artist to succeed herself at number one as the only act credited on both tracks. She also is just the fifth artist in history to replace themselves on the Pop Songs airplay chart. Grande also simultaneously occupied the top two spots of the airplay chart with the two tracks, becoming the first artist to simultaneously occupy the top two with two solo songs, and just the sixth artist ever to simultaneously occupy the entire top two of the chart." That's too much information too and you already mentioned the latter in the career section. Mirrored7 (talk) 14:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
@Ben0006 While I appreciate your most recent changes, I think, "has over 100 million certified units (album and songs) sold in the US", in the lead is too much info, as it's already in the Achievements section and the lead is getting to long, so "all of her studio albums have been certified platinum or higher by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) and she is among the fifth-highest-certified female digital singles artist on their Top Artists (Digital Singles) ranking."
Also, Grande has now the MOST songs with over a billion streams for a woman on Spotify, in a tie with Rihanna and she has sold over 131 million units, across albums, singles, and features, not 108. Mirrored7 (talk) 05:54, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
I removed the units sentence in the lead and added about the tie with Rihanna.
Regarding the number of the units, 108 million is the total number of RIAA certified sales, albums (12 million) and singles (95.5 million) combined, according to the RIAA database. However, it does not take into account certified units as a feature.
So, is 131 million the number including features, what you mean?
I also noticed that "Bang Bang", which was certified diamond in May, is not included in/added to her certifications? The diamond units was stated as 0. And she is a co-lead artist on the single, not a feature.
The units are in here, when you go directly after her name. I'm pretty sure, that's the number when you count the features. There should be a note to search Grande's features in the database, so there will be no misunderstanding, or it could be misleading. Mirrored7 (talk) 08:20, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Chappell Roan recently stated admiration for Grande, describing herself as "an Arianator". Maybe add her to the artists, Grande has influenced. Mirrored7 (talk) 09:13, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Don't really understand your problem. What does that have to do with the lenght of Grande's career, when in fact, the streaming era started less than ten years ago and she is one of the most streamed artists of all time. When does "all the time" work? When she is about 50 and 30 years in her career? Many artists have "all the time" in their lead and their doing it way less years in their careers than her. Is their any rule for that, or is that your opinion? @Escape OrbitMirrored7 (talk) 05:00, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
@Mirrored7 I don't know why you have dropped this into the middle of another discussion. If you have a question for me, please introduce it in proper context to explain what you are referencing. Would also appreciate it not being personalised as "your problem". This page is to discuss improvements with the article. Thanks. Escape Orbit08:32, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
@Ben0006 When I think about it, re-add "and has over 131 million certified units sold (across album, songs and features) in the US". Just mention the features too, so there will be no confusion.
Grande and Rihanna are now both the female artists with the MOST songs with over a billion. It reads SECOND-most.
Add more information to Eternal Sunhine. Maybe "After a musical hiatus, Grande ventured into dance music on her seventh album, Eternal Sunshine (2024), which received critical acclaim and produced the number-one singles "Yes, And?" and "We Can't Be Friends (Wait for Your Love)". It became her fourth consecutive number one album on the Billboard 200.
Restructure the paragraph about informations about her Spotify achievements:
"On Spotify, Grande was the most-streamed female act of the 2010s, has the second-most songs with over a billion streams for a woman, with 16, and is the second-most streamed female artist on the platform, as of 2024."
Remove specific Instagram follower number, as many celebrities are losing followers right now, because of the removal of spam accounts and just mention that she is "the third-most-followed female and sixth-most-followed individual on Instagram".
The source of 98 billion streams was randomly removed back in Spring. @Flabshoe1
Deadline is a reliable source, so it should be re-added back, as Grande is still the most streamed artist overall as of 2021, and there has been no other source claiming otherwise since then. So, "Having amassed 98 billion streams thus far, she is one of the most-streamed artists ever, and the most-streamed female artist as of 2021."
Thanks, I'll add 98 billion streams back now that we have a source for it. Is there a source for her being the most streamed artist overall or female artist as of 2021? (Edit: I found this article in the history which states she became the first female artist with 90 billion streams in 2021, so bringing this back too). Flabshoe1 (talk) 20:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Hello guys, I don't know why Ariana's Impact section was deleted and why its content was moved to the "awards and recognition" section, but I demand that the Impact section be restored, because it is obvious that Ariana already has her place within the music industry and her impact on pop culture is undeniable, so please, I call the motion to restore what was already there, please. 2800:BF0:60:F22:91A8:2AB7:D321:91B0 (talk) 12:00, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. The change was pointless. Can you fix this? @Ben0006 Grande has made enough of an impact in the industry that she deserves her own "Impact" section and the "Achievements" section is long enough already.
Grande will most likely be placed in the top ten of the "Billboard’s Greatest Pop Stars of the 21st Century" this month. So, let's wait until then, so the section can be updated, with more content. Mirrored7 (talk) 20:47, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
She literally hasn’t referred to herself as “Grandee” since this interview. In every interview shes done since (most recently Wicked press) It’s Grahn-day. It shouldn’t be changed because that’s how everyone (including herself) pronounces her name now. Olivergrandeee (talk) 22:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
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Done. Thank you for the suggestion. Aoi (青い) (talk) 22:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)