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| I never said something like that and I don't know why you seem to hold this opinion about me. I'm asking you to please retract your comments. I don't know where your ideas come from but I am really really suggesting that you allow us to just coexist. I think it might do some good to you too. I don't know how this conflict met or meets you so I prefer to give your this chance. ] (]) 19:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | I never said something like that and I don't know why you seem to hold this opinion about me. I'm asking you to please retract your comments. I don't know where your ideas come from but I am really really suggesting that you allow us to just coexist. I think it might do some good to you too. I don't know how this conflict met or meets you so I prefer to give your this chance. ] (]) 19:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | ||
| :In my view, statements like {{tqq|There were always Jews who returned to the Land of Israel and yearned to do so. Starting from the Book of Lamentations through ancient, mideaval and modern sources, this has always been a central theme in Jewish religion, history, and liturgy. It was not yet a political movement, but this fact provides vital context and is absolutely DUE.}} are among the kinds of statements I had in mind when I wrote {{tqq|variations of "God gave the land to us."}}; in this example quote, you argue it's true and Misplaced Pages should say it's true because, in part, the Bible (]) said so. | |||
| :Although, when I wrote that sentence, I specifically had in mind complaining about Misplaced Pages's coverage of Zionism, which at the end quotes somebody as saying {{tqq|the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was the fulfillment of God’s promise to gather His people back to Zion.}} | |||
| :Bringing the Bible to a Misplaced Pages talk page as if it were a history book is a tell-tale sign of POV pushing of a very specific and uncommon POV: ]. This view, though almost unheard of in any intellectual discussion in the real world and certainly in academia, finds surprising popularity on the talk page of Misplaced Pages's articles about Israel, e.g. ] and ], where other editors also claim that because it's in the Bible, it's true. ] (]) 19:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC) | |||
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AI's threat to Misplaced Pages Late Night Live 8 October 2024. Nishidani (talk) 13:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
What you said
Hi Levivich. I don't understand why you would write this. You said there - " Not a lot of people will say with a straight face variations of "God gave the land to us." That's an outlier view."
I never said something like that and I don't know why you seem to hold this opinion about me. I'm asking you to please retract your comments. I don't know where your ideas come from but I am really really suggesting that you allow us to just coexist. I think it might do some good to you too. I don't know how this conflict met or meets you so I prefer to give your this chance. PeleYoetz (talk) 19:30, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- In my view, statements like
There were always Jews who returned to the Land of Israel and yearned to do so. Starting from the Book of Lamentations through ancient, mideaval and modern sources, this has always been a central theme in Jewish religion, history, and liturgy. It was not yet a political movement, but this fact provides vital context and is absolutely DUE.
are among the kinds of statements I had in mind when I wrotevariations of "God gave the land to us."
; in this example quote, you argue it's true and Misplaced Pages should say it's true because, in part, the Bible (Book of Lamentations) said so. - Although, when I wrote that sentence, I specifically had in mind this article complaining about Misplaced Pages's coverage of Zionism, which at the end quotes somebody as saying
the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948 was the fulfillment of God’s promise to gather His people back to Zion.
- Bringing the Bible to a Misplaced Pages talk page as if it were a history book is a tell-tale sign of POV pushing of a very specific and uncommon POV: biblical literalism. This view, though almost unheard of in any intellectual discussion in the real world and certainly in academia, finds surprising popularity on the talk page of Misplaced Pages's articles about Israel, e.g. here and here, where other editors also claim that because it's in the Bible, it's true. Levivich (talk) 19:56, 14 October 2024 (UTC)