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::I believe that 2 should be used because of how high quality it is compared to other images ] (]) 22:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC) ::I believe that 2 should be used because of how high quality it is compared to other images ] (]) 22:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
:::4 has been used in the past and is my choice.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC) :::4 has been used in the past and is my choice.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
::7 is my pick per the SNUGGUMS arguments. I think it is more recent and more recognisable than image #4 ] (]) 14:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) ::7 is my pick per the SNUGGUMS arguments. I think it is more recent and more recognisable than image #4 ] (]) 14:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) Deleting Misplaced Pages Account
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Grammar error

There is a dangling modifier in the "Artistry" section of this article - "he later said that as a small child, his mother would wake him whenever Brown appeared on television". This error can easily be fixed - I'd suggest something like "when he was a small child..." 173.95.86.246 (talk) 16:06, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

 Done You are correct, that's a dangling modifier. Fixed. Popcornfud (talk) 16:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

Main image change

File:Michael Jackson Dangerous World Tour 1993 (cropped).jpg

I changed the main image of Michael Jackson to File:Michael Jackson Dangerous World Tour 1993.jpg. This photo is way better then the previous photo, which is low-quality, grainy and black and white. This photo is high-quality and color, along with showing Jackson during his most popular tour. Wcamp9 (talk) 18:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Seek consensus first. I have reverted this change. GSK (talkedits) 19:18, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Well then should we change it Wcamp9 (talk) 19:12, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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24.204.196.71 (talk) 14:35, 9 September 2024 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/Takis_(snack)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. GSK (talkedits) 14:45, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Infobox Image

Since my last post has not really got a response and is also kind of old, I am making a second comment also requesting that we change the image of Michael Jackson to the one on the right. A high-quality, color image taken during Michael Jackson's most popular tour. I feel this would be a good replacement to the grainy photo that is black-and-white and low quality of Jackson.

File:Michael Jackson Dangerous World Tour 1993 (cropped).jpg

Wcamp9 (talk) 01:16, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

 Not done the copyright status for that (along with File:Michael Jackson Dangerous World Tour 1993.jpg which it was cropped from) has been contested and could be deleted soon, so find something that's free instead. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:39, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Ok, I feel that this image needs to be replaced soon since it is so low quality and grainy and there is most definitely a better alternative out there since Jackson was probably the most famous person for a few years Wcamp9 (talk) 21:02, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

We should update the main image

The main image is a grainy, black and white (which I believe makes an image worse when there is color alternatives), and overall low quality. The problem is many images of Jackson on Wikimedia Commons are not really high quality. Any actually high quality ones (including two images below), are being nominated due to copyrighted issues. Here are two examples:

So here are the highest quality images I could find, from highest to lowest quality. Please know that I believe that color is better, but other factors like quality (including amount of grain, quality of image scan, and image size) also apply

  • 1 1
  • 2 (best of other Alan Light photos of Jackson) 2 (best of other Alan Light photos of Jackson)
  • 3 3
  • 4 4
  • 5 5
  • 6 6
  • 7 7
  • 8 8
  • 9 9
  • 10 10

If we are to choose another image, which I strongly believe should be the case since 1-9 are better than 10 (the current main image), which should we do? Wcamp9 (talk) 20:42, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

You're misusing the words "objective" and "objectively" here when whether certain pictures are better than others is an inherently subjective matter, so please don't treat your personal opinions as facts. Regardless, my preference of these would be image#7 for giving a clear front view of his face and isn't black-and-white like some of the other listings. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 22:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I believe that 2 should be used because of how high quality it is compared to other images Wcamp9 (talk) 22:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
4 has been used in the past and is my choice.--♦IanMacM♦ 07:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
7 is my pick per the SNUGGUMS arguments. I think it is more recent and more recognisable than image #4 TheWikiholic (talk) 14:51, 17 October 2024 (UTC) Deleting Misplaced Pages Account

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