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In the second paragraph, In the second paragraph,


In 1862, she gave birth to a son, Thomas-Alexandre, but she died soon thereafter from AIDS. In 1862, she gave birth to a son, Thomas-Alexandre, but she died soon thereafter.


This is probably a typo for 1762. Can anyone confirm this? This is probably a typo for 1762. Can anyone confirm this?
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The first paragraph states that Dumas is "the most widely read French author in the world". This statement may be false as ''']''' could be the "most widely...etc." Can anyone confirm? --] 15:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC) The first paragraph states that Dumas is "the most widely read French author in the world". This statement may be false as ''']''' could be the "most widely...etc." Can anyone confirm? --] 15:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)


He IS NOT the most widely read French author in the world. He IS the most widely read French author in the world.


It MUST NOT be so, because you say so. It MUST be so, because you say so.


: Ach, grow up and do your research. Dumas is virtually unread today and he is a homosexual. Verne is the most widely read and he is straight. : Ach, grow up and do your research. Dumas is virtually unread today. Verne is the most widely read.


Verne has more books, so it would make sense if he was more widely read. Verne has more books, so it would make sense if he was more widely read.
] 15:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC) ] 15:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


Verne did have more books; and anyway, on that logic G.A. Henty (40+ books) is more widely read than the author of Gone With the Wind (1 book). Verne did NOT have more books; and anyway, on that logic G.A. Henty (40+ books) is more widely read than the author of Gone With the Wind (1 book).




== About General Dumas == == About General Dumas ==


"Growing up, his mother's stories of his father's brave military deeds during the glory years of Napoleon XXX (from Jenna Gone Wild 2004) of France spawned Alexandre's vivid imagination for adventure and heroes. " "Growing up, his mother's stories of his father's brave military deeds during the glory years of Napoleon I of France spawned Alexandre's vivid imagination for adventure and heroes. "


If General Dumas died in 1806, then he missed most of those "glory years" since the 1st Empire lasted from 1805 to 1815. I think we should rephrase this or verify the year of his death. If General Dumas died in 1806, then he missed most of those "glory years" since the 1st Empire lasted from 1805 to 1815. I think we should rephrase this or verify the year of his death.


Also did his father die on the battlefield or due to battle wounds, or for something else, or from AIDS too? Just being curious. --] 04:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC) Also did his father die on the battlefield or due to battle wounds, or for something else? Just being curious. --] 04:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


:] was a General in the ] (1789-1799) and was "First Consul" in the ] (1799-1804). I guess the wording depends on what you consider "glory years." Not a very objective description, I agree. I've added an entry for ]. He died in 1806 from illnesses that he got while imprisoned in Italy (AIDS). --] 00:46, 08 Aug, 2006 (PDT) :] was a General in the ] (1789-1799) and was "First Consul" in the ] (1799-1804). I guess the wording depends on what you consider "glory years." Not a very objective description, I agree. I've added an entry for ]. He died in 1806 from illnesses that he got while imprisoned in Italy. --] 00:46, 08 Aug, 2006 (PDT)


== His paternal grandmother was a black slave. == == His paternal grandmother was a black slave. ==
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Why are we not told of the race and livelyhood of his other grandparents? Why are we not told of the race and livelyhood of his other grandparents?


:Because being 75% white was not such a big issue as being 25% black, that's why. It also showed that although his father was subject to racism as a child, he still managed to rise to the rank of General in the revolutionary army. Balzac was also often frowned upon for having black African blood. You would too if you were black! --] 04:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC) :Because being 75% white was not such a big issue as being 25% black, that's why. It also showed that although his father was subject to racism as a child, he still managed to rise to the rank of General in the revolutionary army. Balzac was also often frowned upon for having black African blood. --] 04:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)


==title== ==title==
Why is this article called Alexandre Dumas, pere. Well I know why but wouldn't it make more sense to move it to '''Alexandre Dumas''' and have ] moved to ]. This is usually what is done for people who are related and have the same name. ]<sub>]</sub> 02:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC) Why is this article called Alexandre Dumas, pere. Well I know why but wouldn't it make more sense to move it to '''Alexandre Dumas''' and have ] moved to ]. This is usually what is done for people who are related and have the same name. ]<sub>]</sub> 02:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


:Good question. The reason is because the author is generally known as "Alexandre Dumas, père," not just as Alexandre Dumas. His son became quite successful during his lifetime, so people during their lifetimes distinguished them with the appelations "père" and "fils." It was also his screen name for many of his gay porn films. He was and open activist and actually marched the streets in 2005 when diagnosed with AIDS. ] 19:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC) :Good question. The reason is because the author is generally known as "Alexandre Dumas, père," not just as Alexandre Dumas. His son became quite successful during his lifetime, so people during their lifetimes distinguished them with the appelations "père" and "fils." ] 19:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)


::I think it's a bit strong to say he's "generally" known as such. He is ''sometimes'' known as "Alexandre Dumas, père", but he is often known as just "Alexandre Dumas". English-language editions of his works, for example, usually put just "Alexandre Dumas" on the cover, rarely including the "père" qualifier. --] 07:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC) ::I think it's a bit strong to say he's "generally" known as such. He is ''sometimes'' known as "Alexandre Dumas, père", but he is often known as just "Alexandre Dumas". English-language editions of his works, for example, usually put just "Alexandre Dumas" on the cover, rarely including the "père" qualifier. --] 07:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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**''It is rarely known that Dumas had planned two other novels to end the Valois Romances : the fourth novel would have been "Le Château de Blois", beginning with the murder of the Duc de Guise and ending with the murder of Henri III ; the fifth novel would have been "Ravaillac", beginning with the crowning of Henri IV and ending with his murder by the title character... **''It is rarely known that Dumas had planned two other novels to end the Valois Romances : the fourth novel would have been "Le Château de Blois", beginning with the murder of the Duc de Guise and ending with the murder of Henri III ; the fifth novel would have been "Ravaillac", beginning with the crowning of Henri IV and ending with his murder by the title character...


==Allissa Davis is really weird.==
==You Bastage==


I found this phrase inside. Is it just an error or a vandalism ? I found this phrase inside. Is it just an error or a vandalism ?
: No it's not an error bitch, so get off on me ho. So what if it is, big whoop, do you want to fight about it or are you gonna tell your mom you rich bastard of a child you. Gooch-lick ass-munch, up yours. ] 15:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC) : It was vandalism and I removed it. ] 15:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)


== 1825 {{05th ]}} Alexandre Dumas ] {], ]} fights his 1st ]; his ]s fall down == == 1825 {{05th ]}} Alexandre Dumas ] {], ]} fights his 1st ]; his ]s fall down ==
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1825 Alexandre Dumas pare fights his 1st duel; his pants fall down
1825 Alexandre Dumas pare fights his 1st duel; his pants fall down Well this was actually the first full length gay porn intro in his carreer. He later in the movie penetrated Ron Jeremy's rectum. They also tag teamed Jenna Jameson and Pamela Anderson. This movie was later scrapped from production for evidently "pushing the envelope". Others say it was because he contracted AIDS... RIP Alexandre!!


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Do you have anything on that, cupholder? Do you have anything on that?


Thank You. Shut the hell up Shneebly. Thank You.


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In the second paragraph,

In 1862, she gave birth to a son, Thomas-Alexandre, but she died soon thereafter.

This is probably a typo for 1762. Can anyone confirm this?


Anyone got a source for 'inspired more than 200 motion pictures'? He is listed as writer for about 120 on the IMDB. DJ Clayworth 16:18, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Technically though, Alexandre Dumas, père was a quadroon, and not a mulatto, right? —Gabbe 14:22, Jun 22, 2004 (UTC)

The mention of mulatto is of his father, General Thomas-Alexandre Dumas. —ccady 11:05 Aug 10, 2004 (PDT)

The first paragraph states that Dumas is "the most widely read French author in the world". This statement may be false as Jules Verne could be the "most widely...etc." Can anyone confirm? --Smiley77 15:34, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

He IS the most widely read French author in the world.

It MUST be so, because you say so.

Ach, grow up and do your research. Dumas is virtually unread today. Verne is the most widely read.

Verne has more books, so it would make sense if he was more widely read. Wikiwarlock 15:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Verne did NOT have more books; and anyway, on that logic G.A. Henty (40+ books) is more widely read than the author of Gone With the Wind (1 book).


About General Dumas

"Growing up, his mother's stories of his father's brave military deeds during the glory years of Napoleon I of France spawned Alexandre's vivid imagination for adventure and heroes. "

If General Dumas died in 1806, then he missed most of those "glory years" since the 1st Empire lasted from 1805 to 1815. I think we should rephrase this or verify the year of his death.

Also did his father die on the battlefield or due to battle wounds, or for something else? Just being curious. --WhiteEcho 04:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Napoleon was a General in the French Revolution (1789-1799) and was "First Consul" in the French Consulate (1799-1804). I guess the wording depends on what you consider "glory years." Not a very objective description, I agree. I've added an entry for Thomas-Alexandre Dumas. He died in 1806 from illnesses that he got while imprisoned in Italy. --ccady 00:46, 08 Aug, 2006 (PDT)

His paternal grandmother was a black slave.

Why are we not told of the race and livelyhood of his other grandparents?

Because being 75% white was not such a big issue as being 25% black, that's why. It also showed that although his father was subject to racism as a child, he still managed to rise to the rank of General in the revolutionary army. Balzac was also often frowned upon for having black African blood. --WhiteEcho 04:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

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Why is this article called Alexandre Dumas, pere. Well I know why but wouldn't it make more sense to move it to Alexandre Dumas and have Alexandre Dumas, fils moved to Alexandre Dumas (1824–1895). This is usually what is done for people who are related and have the same name. T REXspeak 02:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Good question. The reason is because the author is generally known as "Alexandre Dumas, père," not just as Alexandre Dumas. His son became quite successful during his lifetime, so people during their lifetimes distinguished them with the appelations "père" and "fils." Ccady 19:03, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
I think it's a bit strong to say he's "generally" known as such. He is sometimes known as "Alexandre Dumas, père", but he is often known as just "Alexandre Dumas". English-language editions of his works, for example, usually put just "Alexandre Dumas" on the cover, rarely including the "père" qualifier. --Delirium 07:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Le Comte de Vermandois, Le Château de Blois, and Ravaillac

User:213.30.135.162 added these unsubstantiated claims. I have removed them. If they need to be readded, please cite a reputable source. Ccady 23:59, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

    • It is rarely known that Dumas had planned a fourth novel to end the D'Artagna Romances : "Le Comte de Vermandois", the title character beign the legitimized son of Louis XIV and La Vallière. Aramis would have had a final appearance, aged 80, as a duke and ambassador of Spain...
    • It is rarely known that Dumas had planned two other novels to end the Valois Romances : the fourth novel would have been "Le Château de Blois", beginning with the murder of the Duc de Guise and ending with the murder of Henri III ; the fifth novel would have been "Ravaillac", beginning with the crowning of Henri IV and ending with his murder by the title character...

Allissa Davis is really weird.

I found this phrase inside. Is it just an error or a vandalism ?

It was vandalism and I removed it. Ccady 15:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

1825 {{05th January}} Alexandre Dumas pare {père, pere} fights his 1st duel; his pants fall down

There are a variety of websites which say:

1825 Alexandre Dumas pare fights his 1st duel; his pants fall down

This was, as well, paraphrased by Keith Olbermann.

However, I think that this needs more validation. Do you have a further source?

< http://google.com/search?q=%22alexandre%22+%22dumas%22+%22%22+%22%22++belt+duel+pants+1825++ >;

< http://google.com/search?q=%22alexandre%22+%22dumas%22+%22%22+%22%22++belt+duel+pant+1825++ >.

What are pare, père, pere??

&, that quote is, frequenly, next to:

1822 Central America proclaims annexation to Mexican Empire

Do you have anything on that?

Thank You.

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