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Semi-protected edit request on 26 March 2024

Add to further reading: Strike, Joe. "Furry Planet: A World Gone Wild: Includes History, Costumes, and Conventions." ISBN 978-1-954641-10-5 Apollo Publishers, 2023 — Preceding unsigned comment added by NYFly (talk • contribs) 14:56, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2024

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Heyyya, I would like to add my site, furrychat.net, to the list of furry sites you have on here! Thank youuuu :33 <3 Suburbian06 (talk) 00:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources to demonstrate this site's notability. You are also advised to write the article first. Liu1126 (talk) 01:44, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

@Liu1126: The last part poses a problem due to this editor's conflict of interest. They would need to follow the policy if they were to draft an article. Jalen Folf (talk) 04:30, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

need improvement

paragraph 65 should have a link to the survey and/or be updated with a more recent survey to increase credibility. MCFY83 (talk) 12:57, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

The cite is to the research paper which conducted the survey. We don't need to show the original data here. And if you can find a newer survey that fits WP:RS, please feel free to point us in that direction. — The Hand That Feeds You: 13:20, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

i have no idea where the site is help MCFY83 (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

ID of the "pair of cartoonists" who created Vootie

Reed Waller and Ken Fletcher were the pair of cartoonists, who started it up in Minneapolis. A scan of a flyer they made to discuss it can be found here (https://www.furaffinity.net/view/19451045/), but a Google search of their names might be able to provide a better source to to reference. There's loads of pages though, so it would be great if someone who's allowed to edit this can find a more appropriate one. 2603:7080:9D40:66C1:845B:1DB7:474A:446 (talk) 21:43, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

It's a bit late where I am but it's a start to have the artists named; I added the link to the page as a primary source to confirm it. Any input by other editors is appreciated here! Reconrabbit 03:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Add an article detailing the anthropomorphic research project(Furscience)

I would like to suggest adding a page about the anthropomorphic research project, known as furscience to the majority. It should include:

• Origins of the project + History
• Types of data, maybe examples
• Effect it has had on the furry fandom as a whole
• How they collect their data
• Known members

86.22.133.69 (talk) 17:38, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Do you have reliable, independent sources demonstrating this project is notable? — The Hand That Feeds You: 17:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)

Recent edits by Waka Waka

I reverted some of the latest edits because they simply aren't supported by the source. The source does not talk about the fandom having "generally been received poorly in media". That, or I have simply missed the specific sentences in the paper that talk about it. The source also does not say that "sexual aspects and zoophilia being a main source of controversy" of the media coverage. The source does not use the word "controversy" or any variant of it at all. The paper simply talks about there being media coverage, and the fandom having sexual aspects (including zoophilia). It does not connect these two topics or make any of the claims that were added to the article.

After my revert Waka Waka added a second source, which, as far as I can tell, also does not talk about any sort of controversy and seems to be a weak source to begin with, being part of a bachelor's thesis from a Department of Art, Design, and Art History from the perspective of a furry, instead of being a scientific paper or study dealing with the subject.

In addition, Waka Waka has now added the originally used source twice. One where the pages "1-21" are cited, which just so happens to be the entire document, and another one where the pages "1349–1369" are cited, which also happens to be the entire document, just with a different page numbering. That seems like an odd attempt to make it look like the statement is supported by multiple sources when it's, well, not. I'm having a hard time finding a good faith argument for doing this.

I suggest to remove the recent addition. The sources just don't support it. Especially given the countless articles out there these days that are quite positive about the fandom (, , , , , just to take a few random examples from a 2 minute google search. All of these could reasonably be used in the article). --Conti|✉ 21:48, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

1) I didn't know I repeated the source twice so saying it was an "attempt to make it look like the statement is supported by multiple sources when it's, well, not" is presuming bad faith since it was a normal mistake, what it doesn't look like a mistake is why your first edit in more than 2 years is just to revert my edition with sources. Misplaced Pages:Ownership of content

2) You can change the content and how is structured but you CAN'T remove zoophilia allegations considering its mentioned in the source -you like it or not- and is illegal -abuse of animals- in most places, that's why is controversial, more or less the same logic applied to the similar genre known as lolicon. Not mentioning zoophilia allegations makes the article not neutral. You can't dictate what the article may or may not say if the sources mention something you maybe don't like or controversial.

3) You claim my edits "aren't supported by the source" when the source mention zoophilia and you agree it too. So, basically you are deleting sourced information so what's the problem? If you have issues with the wording I said about the fandom being "poorly received" only you can change that part.

Waka Waka (talk) 22:18, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Regarding #2 & 3, you cannot take information in the source and interpret it with your own conclusion. That is considered WP:OR. So if the source has not called it a "controversy" you cannot phrase it that way.

In addition, as Conti says, someone's thesis is not a reliable source we can use here to support this. — The Hand That Feeds You: 22:44, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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