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:in turkish wikipedia thats also a problem. if we give information, then we should give information. ----] ] <sup>]</sup> 12:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC) :in turkish wikipedia thats also a problem. if we give information, then we should give information. ----] ] <sup>]</sup> 12:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

== Random commentary from ''Psychology: A Modular Approach'' ==

I propose removing the quote {{xt|(Some cynics add, "And the other 5 percent lied!")}} from ''Psychology: A Modular Approach'' in {{section link|Masturbation|Frequency, age, and sex}} (added ), as it seems to be random commentary that doesn’t contribute to the understanding of the subject. ] (]) 13:43, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

:IMHO, it seems to show the degree of skepticism experts have in respect to men claiming they don't masturbate. ] (]) 12:14, 16 August 2024 (UTC)


== List of songs == == List of songs ==

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This article should have videos, or photos, of a man and a woman masturbating, instead of drawings. Videos are better, but photos are better than drawings. AnnaFriendly2346 (talk) 15:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

in turkish wikipedia thats also a problem. if we give information, then we should give information. ----modern_primat ඞඞඞ 12:42, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

List of songs

The list of songs lacks sources and some of the songs listed seem dubious. LordApofisu (talk) 21:27, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

Health masturbation?

Masturbation is not health-beneficial; there is merely a correlation between more frequent ejaculation and a lower risk of prostate cancer, regardless of whether the ejaculation occurred sinfully or not. This correlation could theoretically also be caused directly by hormone levels without mediation through ejaculation.

Otherwise, the risk of prostate cancer is negligible up to around the age of 50, and therefore, natural family planning through sexual abstinence does not significantly increase the risk of cancer. After around 50 years of age, women experience menopause, and the couple can engage in sexual intercourse at will. The situation is different for priests and monks, as they have completely devoted themselves to God, and any potential increased risk of prostate cancer is part of the sacrifice." 89.190.52.148 (talk) 23:05, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Cool, now where are the sources? ZZ'S 23:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Science can make no positive statements about how priests and monks should behave sexually. Many Eastern Orthodox priests are married, with children, and the same applies to many Protestant pastors. Also, many Eastern Orthodox monks have lovers or pay prostitutes.
I agree that the correlation between masturbation and the chance of prostate cancer is murky.
The correlation between having orgasms and cardiovascular health does not mean causation: both erections and cardiovascular health suffer from deposits of cholesterol.
More generally: the claim that Masturbation is not health-beneficial is utterly rejected by mainstream medicine. There are enough mainstream WP:RS WP:CITED in our article to that effect.
The only proven ill health effect of masturbation is producing Peyronie disease in men who are foolish enough to try to bend their erect penis. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:07, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
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