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Remove all mention of Russian
All of mentions of russian versions for Ukrainian cities’ names and facts are propaganda and doesn’t carry any relevance or importance. The only effect it has - is the reminder for Ukrainians how much pain and loss we have to experience daily because of the terror from aggressor/terrorist-russia. Please be mindful and understanding for other’s request in this matters, for you it might be nothing - for somebody it’s a reminder of killed children and family members, lost homes and peace. 79.17.161.5 (talk) 18:30, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- We go by sources here. If sources use Russian names, so do we. If sources change (as they did with Kiev to Kyiv) we also change. If history used Russian names we are not going to whitewash history in an article as if it never happened. You'll have to live with that. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Would the Ukrainian government/Verkhovna Rada and the Office of the President of Ukraine's chosen names be counted as sources?
- This doesn't concern Kyiv specifically but rather the hundreds of Russian names which are being swapped out in official communication by the Ukrainian government. AuthorOfOne (talk) 15:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Materials originating from the Ukrainian government are not relevant to English usage. Nor the Russian government, the Japanese goverment, the Venezuelan government, the Saudi government, etc.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:12, 25 December 2024 (UTC)