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| ::Done, ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ::Done, ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| * "Several storm chasers captured the formation of a tornado south of Greensburg around 9:20 pm CDT, which apparently strengthened as it neared Greensburg and began moving due-north towards the town, and at 9:38 pm CDT, storm chasers reported that it had grown to over 0.5 miles (0.80 km) in diameter. Eyewitnesses and storm chasers reported that multiple vortices were circulating around the perimeter of the large, wedge-shaped tornado during its early stages. A short time later, at least two distinct satellite tornadoes, including a narrow rope tornado, were reported by local media and observed by multiple weather spotters and storm chasers." Source doesn't back this up at all - no ctrl+f hits for "rope". "satellite", or "chaser", nor anything regarding multi-vortex structure. | * "Several storm chasers captured the formation of a tornado south of Greensburg around 9:20 pm CDT, which apparently strengthened as it neared Greensburg and began moving due-north towards the town, and at 9:38 pm CDT, storm chasers reported that it had grown to over 0.5 miles (0.80 km) in diameter. Eyewitnesses and storm chasers reported that multiple vortices were circulating around the perimeter of the large, wedge-shaped tornado during its early stages. A short time later, at least two distinct satellite tornadoes, including a narrow rope tornado, were reported by local media and observed by multiple weather spotters and storm chasers." Source doesn't back this up at all - no ctrl+f hits for "rope". "satellite", or "chaser", nor anything regarding multi-vortex structure. | ||
| ::Done, changed reference to a research paper. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 17:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| * Would the tornado emergency text go better on WikiSource than here? The first half is boilerplate anyway. | * Would the tornado emergency text go better on WikiSource than here? The first half is boilerplate anyway. | ||
| ::Done, removed. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 14:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | ::Done, removed. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 14:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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| * I hate to say it, but I'd really like a better source than the Cincinnati Enquirer for the satellite tornadoes. | * I hate to say it, but I'd really like a better source than the Cincinnati Enquirer for the satellite tornadoes. | ||
| ::Done, the research paper also backs up the tornadoes. CE should be reliable as it's stripped from the NWS. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ::Done, the research paper also backs up the tornadoes. CE should be reliable as it's stripped from the NWS. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| * The Trousdale section should probably be given a mention in the final paragraph of the Greensburg tornado's summary, i.e. "the tornado then caused a wide tornado near Trousdale. It broke some records for Kansas. |
* The Trousdale section should probably be given a mention in the final paragraph of the Greensburg tornado's summary, i.e. "the tornado then caused a wide tornado near Trousdale. It broke some records for Kansas. | ||
| ::Done. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 17:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| * I mentioned this in the DYK review, but why is Blagojevich given more spotlight than George W Bush? All Bush gets is an image and one sentence, where Blagojevich, who isn't even from Kansas, gets a whole quote. | * I mentioned this in the DYK review, but why is Blagojevich given more spotlight than George W Bush? All Bush gets is an image and one sentence, where Blagojevich, who isn't even from Kansas, gets a whole quote. | ||
| ::Bush just said a few words, none were of long-term significance. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ::Bush just said a few words, none were of long-term significance. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
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| ::I cannot, hence why I removed it. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ::I cannot, hence why I removed it. ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| The article came from nothing a month or so ago and is already pretty darn good. You've done great here, EF5. Cheers! ] (]) 17:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | The article came from nothing a month or so ago and is already pretty darn good. You've done great here, EF5. Cheers! ] (]) 17:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC) | ||
| ::{{ping|Departure–}} How's it look now? ]<sub>]</sub><sup>]</sup> 17:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
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2007 Greensburg tornado
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- Nominator(s): EF 16:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
This article is about the massive EF5-rated tornado that hit Greensburg, Kansas on the night of May 4, 2007. The tornado directly hit he town, damaging 95% of the buildings within city limits to some degree and killing eleven people. Meetsall criteria, passed a DYK that was recently featured and GA, so trying my luck at probably only the third individual tornado FAC ever. Also successfully nommed an FP for the tornado, which can be found in the infobox. EF 16:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Comments from Departure–
Glad to see this passed GA! I'll give a bit of constructive criticism:
- Is the GT name really relevant if it was only used in studies?
- I'd say yes, because that's what it's officially named as in NWS-led and other papers. EF 14:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- "Kiowa County Memorial Hospital, destroyed in the tornado," change to "which was destroyed in the tornado"
- "As of 2024, the tornado is the most recent to receive an EF5 rating in Kansas" I don't really see this being relevant - it's the only EF5 in Kansas. This should be replaced with maybe more from earlier in the lede about how it was the first EF5 tornado, which would go better here.
- "the 2 miles (3.2 km) width estimate from the 1896 Seneca–Oneida tornado is considered unofficial" - in the text body, this sentence is entirely uncited, and is the rating unofficial at all? I'm less than convinced.
- Done, removed. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Meteorological synopsis: wasn't it a high risk day? The body only mentions a moderate risk.
- The high risk was for May 5, the day after the tornado. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- "Shortly after this circulation was first found" swap "found" with "detected" or some variant, ideally.
- "Several storm chasers captured the formation of a tornado south of Greensburg around 9:20 pm CDT, which apparently strengthened as it neared Greensburg and began moving due-north towards the town, and at 9:38 pm CDT, storm chasers reported that it had grown to over 0.5 miles (0.80 km) in diameter. Eyewitnesses and storm chasers reported that multiple vortices were circulating around the perimeter of the large, wedge-shaped tornado during its early stages. A short time later, at least two distinct satellite tornadoes, including a narrow rope tornado, were reported by local media and observed by multiple weather spotters and storm chasers." Source doesn't back this up at all - no ctrl+f hits for "rope". "satellite", or "chaser", nor anything regarding multi-vortex structure.
- Done, changed reference to a research paper. EF 17:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Would the tornado emergency text go better on WikiSource than here? The first half is boilerplate anyway.
- Done, removed. EF 14:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Inline damage photos either in the summary or damage section would be great, especially when the school being hit is mentioned in the text but the swimming pool isn't.
- Done, I've added three new images and removed the Bush one since it's not really relevant. EF 14:49, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I hate to say it, but I'd really like a better source than the Cincinnati Enquirer for the satellite tornadoes.
- Done, the research paper also backs up the tornadoes. CE should be reliable as it's stripped from the NWS. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- The Trousdale section should probably be given a mention in the final paragraph of the Greensburg tornado's summary, i.e. "the tornado then caused a wide tornado near Trousdale. It broke some records for Kansas.
- I mentioned this in the DYK review, but why is Blagojevich given more spotlight than George W Bush? All Bush gets is an image and one sentence, where Blagojevich, who isn't even from Kansas, gets a whole quote.
- Bush just said a few words, none were of long-term significance. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- "The tornado was the first in over 50 years to kill at least one person in Kiowa County." Is this really needed? Tornadoes aren't rare enough in these United States in my opinion. Killer tornadoes tend to be both unsurprising and uncommon at once.
- Over 50 years? Seems suprising to me, especially for Kansas. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Depiction in media: There was another here you removed in the GAN. Can you find it with a better source than IMDB?
- I cannot, hence why I removed it. EF 20:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
The article came from nothing a month or so ago and is already pretty darn good. You've done great here, EF5. Cheers! Departure– (talk) 17:30, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Departure–: How's it look now? EF 17:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)