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2011 Mexican drug gang attack Twitter hoax

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This is a permastub incident that took place 13 years ago. Unlike what was said at the previous AFD, it had no lasting consequences. This article is rarely visited as it is linked to nowhere since it was a minor incident. (CC) Tbhotch 21:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Keep. Disregarding all news attention, received quite a bit of academic attention for its legal considerations and relation to drug trade/ internet usage. , for a random selection. Quite a bit more if I looked harder. That it is a stub is of no consideration for notability, as stubs are not against the rules. Could very well be linked to several pages if expanded. Seems quite the unique incident and much could be written on its background/impacts/events from these sources, so it does pass WP:NEVENT. Very clearly not a permastub, as it can be expanded. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Jihad Cool

Stub breaks WP:NOTNEO; it should be a Wikitionary entry, not an article. The exception would be if it was a frequent-use neologism, whereas this term is not frequently used in WP:RSs. See WP:Misplaced Pages is not a dictionary. Essentially the entire text of this article is already repeated in the second part of the lede of Jihadism. --OrebroVi (talk) 16:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: I agree with the rationale. This was merely a fleeting neologism that never gained serious currency. The timing is probably key. A few sources mentioned it in 2014, and then ISIS took off, so there wasn't anything remotely cool about the popular conception of Jihad any more and the term swiftly died a death. If later sources existed that examined this demise, it would make for more of a subject. As it is, it's simply a meme that never really took off and doesn't really merit a standalone page. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Transwiki to wikitionary, then. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: Per nom; should be on wiktionary, if anyhere. ~Darth Stabro 03:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

The Bop House

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The house itself fails WP:GNG. Some of the sources listed in the article isn't even RS, Google News yield none RS sources. Though IDK if Elle or this Yahoo Entertainment article is RS? Nonetheless, it still fails WP:SIGCOV Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 08:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Tetr.io

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NGAME, with no independent reviews or coverage besides listacles found on this article or in my WP:BEFORE searches. Previous blank and redirects were reverted. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Merge to List of Tetris variants. Besides what's in the article, I also found and , but it's just a lot of listicles where nobody has written anything substantial or over two paragraphs about the game. ~ A412 16:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Tetris variants#Unofficial games (or an anchor, given the list's length) as it was before, where the game's already mentioned. Definitely does not meet WP:NGAME per nom. (As a disclaimer, I created Tetr.io as that redirect before it became an article.) Nyakase🐈‍⬛‍ (talk • she/her) 16:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Redirect to List of Tetris variants. No real SIGCOV here, just listicles. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect as above. Listicles can support notability though, they just tend to lack significant coverage as is the case here. ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:14, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect per all. A mention at the target could be a compromise. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

RBC Direct Investing

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Not meeting NCORP, no reliable media coverage. Taking off shortly (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Benedikt Johannes Hofer

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Non-notable person. None of the sources are reliable (tiiny.site is user-generated), and I found no reliable sources online. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 03:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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delete: previously deleted via Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Gaming Benni; doesn't this qualify for some speedy deletion criterion? Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 12:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: Fails WP: GNG, could not find sources to establish notability. HyperAccelerated (talk) 08:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete Fails WP:GNG. Needs sources that are reliable and independent. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Speedy delete - cross wiki promo spam by globally locked sock farm see file here. Many times placed via the "name game" also on this language version as Benedikt Hofer, Draft:Gaming_Benni, Gaming Benni and Coden mit Benni. This sock even created a fake ai-generated user page with nonsense. Hoyanova (talk) 17:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Personal wiki

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This is a WP:REDUNDANTFORK of List of wiki software with no useful salvageable value.

The section "Multi-user wiki software" lacks any useful inclusion criterion - MediaWiki (the software that this wiki runs on) does not have a "personal edition" in any reasonable sense. Yes, it's configurable enough you can use it for a lot of things, but the standard for when that would be would be entirely arbitrary. Most of the remaining entries do not have any mention of personal wikis in their article.

The section "Single-user wiki software" is almost entirely duplicated at List of wiki software#Personal wiki software.

The rest of this article is just a trivial definition of the concept - "a personal wiki is a wiki for personal use". And that's it. Delete or redirect to List of wiki software#Personal wiki software (since an individual instance of a personal wiki is by definition a complete nonentity with no existence outside of that of its sole user the software is the only significant bit). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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There is probably broader cleanup work needed in the broader area of: Personal wiki, Personal information manager, Personal knowledge base, Personal knowledge management, and the inevitable Digital garden. Presumably some or all of these are the same concept with terminology changing over time. Brandon (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep Valuable information with multiple references. Dujo (talk) 21:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
So no actual refutation to my multi-paragraph AfD rationale? Just WP:VALUABLE and WP:LOTSOFSOURCES? * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete per nomination. The mere existence of little blue clickly linky numbers from over a decade ago can't stop this from being cruft. XOR'easter (talk) 00:20, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to List of wiki software#Personal wiki software as suggested in the nomination. I agree with everything in the nomination rationale, and I can’t find sufficient sourcing to rework the article so that it isn’t a redundant fork. The Keep vote above contains textbook examples on arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, and I’m also dubious whether the Keep voter read the nomination at all. HyperAccelerated (talk) 02:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki version history

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This article has absolutely no reason to exist. It's an unsourced duplicate of mw:Release notes and mw:Version lifecycle. The "notable changes" column is entirely original research. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete per WP:NOTCHANGELOG. ~ A412 08:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTCHANGELOG Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: WP:NOTCHANGELOG. Those looking for the release history can just visit MediaWiki. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 15:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTCHANGELOG. Looking at the 1st AfD, I would say MediaWiki was limited in 2012. It has greatly expanded since then with the dedicated wiki (and other Wiki services) easier to access. There's a detailed log of their version updates. – The Grid (talk) 18:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
MediaWiki.org has been around since 2004. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I don't personally feel well-versed enough to evaluate this article/AFD nomination and thus don't have an opinion on it; however, if consensus is that this article shouldn't be kept, my view is that it could be redirected to MediaWiki#History or MediaWiki#Version history as an {{R from subtopic}} (the latter of which is currently only one sentence long, but could potentially be expanded with properly-sourced content) as an alternative to deletion. Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten 12:19, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

LABA IT Training Center

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Non-notable company. All sources are home pages of companies they've supposedly worked with, and I found no reliable sources online. Promotional in tone and borderline G11. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 11:11, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete, Fails WP:NCORP. I've searched Google, No reliable sources. ~🌀 Ampil 13:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: nothing more than advertising. Rahmatula786 (talk) 15:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Speedy delete: wholly promotional. . . Mean as custard (talk) 20:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

TACTIC (web framework)

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Seems to have been created by IP editors for promotional purposes. Tagged for notability. -- Beland (talk) 10:43, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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delete The only verifiable notable thing about this is the size of the project in terms of lines of code, which means nothing. No independant sources can be found. I tried looking around for people asking for support (which would give an indication re: the number of users) but all i could find was their first party forums full of literal spam Themoonisacheese (talk) 14:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Lily Phillips

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BLP of an OnlyFans model whose claim to fame is having sex with 100 men. Coverage is all from within the past week or so and largely consists of deprecated sources and low-quality tabloids. Fails WP:N, WP:SUSTAINED, WP:BLP, WP:NOT, etc. Spicy (talk) 19:19, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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I would move it to draft space then and see if she gets more coverage.

I only made this page since I read about her and saw that there was a German article about her but not an English one. Laura240406 (talk) 19:24, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
A draft already exists at Draft:Lily Phillips. Spicy (talk) 19:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
ah okay then I'm also for a deletion

(btw the German Misplaced Pages's quality standards seem to be a lot worse than the English one's) Laura240406 (talk) 19:31, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: WP:BLP1E violation, utterly non-notable other than this event. ~Darth Stabro 19:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: see my comment Laura240406 (talk) 19:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Draftify per WP:TOOSOON.--Laun chba ller 19:58, 3 January 2025 (UTC) Changed vote, see below.--Laun chba ller 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
There is already a draft that covers the main points and uses more reliable sources. Laura240406 (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

All five of the sources currently used in the draft are in yellow and red at WP:UPSD. I removed the three it highlighted in the article.--Laun chba ller 20:28, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete The subject is only notable for one event and there is a lack of reliable sources even regarding the sole reason for notability. Svenska356 (talk) 01:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep: Article has been significantly improved by User:Launchballer and passes WP:BASIC and WP:SIGCOV. Tayce Widdrington (talk) 06:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep per Tayce Widdrington and WP:HEY.--Laun chba ller 09:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep following improvements, definitely meets WP:BASIC. – Meena • 14:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep per WP:HEY and above XxLuckyCxX (talk) 14:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep per WP:HEY Laura240406 (talk) 18:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Nivi, Inc.

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Appears wholly promotional and does not established WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 15:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete clearly fails WP:NCORP. --Kej Keir (talk) 08:17, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: All the sources fail WP: GNG Ibjaja055 (talk) 10:32, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Very very promotional. Doesn't meet WP:NCORP. Safari Scribe 12:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Pure promo Megan B.... till the end of time 13:04, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Fails WP:ORGCRIT or WP:GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 18:47, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: There are no valid sources in this article to prove any type of notability. I read them all. As others have stated, this is very promotional in nature. The only "reference" with "Nivi" in the title, has no author and is not a newspaper. Mamani1990 (talk) 23:53, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTINHERITED. The use of AI, and ChatGPT and tele-health in particular, are upending the practice of medicine. 10/12 of the references are not about this company, but rather about this new technology. The only two sources about the company are not reliable. It's written in far too a promotional tone. The page would have to be completely re-written and sourced anew to be an encyclopedia article. Bearian (talk) 02:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Benjamin De Almeida

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Non-notable YouTuber. The only source is their channel, and I found no reliable sources online. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 03:39, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete - a bundle of WP:BLP violations wrapped up in a cheerful demeanor and ready to explode. If this and that were reliable, then it could be the start of a stub. I'm not opposed to userfication, but don't hand it off to me. Bearian (talk) 03:44, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Simon Brea

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Non-notable YouTuber. None of the sources are reliable, and I found none online. Large parts of the article are unreferenced. ''']''' (talk • contribs) 02:53, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: Per nom. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 03:37, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Per nom. No meaningful media coverage. Snowycats (talk) 03:54, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
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Delete: per nom Asteramellus (talk) 22:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Every single reference is to a WP:USERGEN source and no other references were found when checking. cyberdog958 10:07, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Clare Siobhan

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Does not seem to meet WP:NBIO or WP:GNG, only mention in a to me seemingly reliable publication is a mention of three sentences. Red Bull source seems to be an interview, probably not intellectually independent. AlexandraAVX (talk) 09:23, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete - fails WP:SIGCOV: an interview, blogs, and her own YouTube video are not significant coverage. Bearian (talk) 05:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Jonah Chapman

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Sources currently cited consist of IMDb and some YouTube channels published by the subject. Searching the name alone turns up unrelated individuals; with some other specifying material added, some promotional material from an agency turns up, but nothing which would indicate notability. Seraphimblade 00:11, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete Classic WP:COI! At best WP:TOOSOON, but clearly fails WP:SIGCOV. DerbyCountyinNZ 00:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC).
Delete Per nom and above, but also noting the incorrectly disclosed COI. Snowycats (talk) 00:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: No sources provided and fail WP:NACTOR. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️ 08:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. --Kinu /_c 20:15, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

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Faris Al-Hammadi

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The subject does not meet WP:GNG. The article fails to demonstrate any proof of notability and relies heavily on sources from social media platforms such as X, Instagram, and LinkedIn, which are generally not considered reliable. The few non-social media sources included are either trivial mentions or lack the depth and significance required to establish notability.

Based on my research, and after conducting a WP:BEFORE, I could not find independent, reliable sources that provide in-depth coverage of the subject. While the individual is a social media influencer with a large following, this alone does not suffice to meet Misplaced Pages's notability standards. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 08:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:ANYBIO / WP:CREATIVE). Available sources fail to support WP:V. QEnigma talk 13:49, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep. The current sourcing by the author is a major issue, but the subject seems to have relevant prominence with 750k+ followers. Per WP:BEFORE, subject also appears to be related to Hussain Al Hammadi and other UAE gov operatives. OrebroVi (talk) 16:58, 2 January 2025 (UTC)

I'd like to point out that, per WP:INVALIDBIO, notability is not inherited. A subject's relationship with notable individuals or entities doesn't automatically make them notable. According to the notability guideline, notability is determined by significant, independent, and reliable coverage of the subject, not follower counts.

If you or another editor can provide reliable sources showing significant coverage, the article may be reconsidered. ZyphorianNexus (talk) 23:55, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:19, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Untitled Web Series About a Space Traveler Who Can Also Travel Through Time

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Has a lot of sources but nothing particurly in depth. Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: as there is sufficient coverage in reliable sources, including one page in Playing Fans: Negotiating Fandom and Media in the Digital Age and one paragraph in The Last Pirate's History of Doctor Who... -Mushy Yank. 09:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
There is also a 13-page paper dedicated to the series https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505; see also https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505. Please kindly consider withdrawing this nomination as your concern seems addressed. @OlifanofmrTennant. Thank you very much. -Mushy Yank. 09:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Worth noting that the book Playing Fans reuses large portions of the paper, as confirmed by the book's acknowledgements (and a quick skimming of both sources – the paper can be viewed through Misplaced Pages:The Misplaced Pages Library), so they're basically a single source. And the mention in The Last Pirate's History is a brief mention in a long list, so I wouldn't call that mention significant. Other sources in the article may contribute to notability as well, but these by themselves aren't enough. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
I would say they are. But if you want, feel free to add Broadcast in the U.S.: Foreign TV Series Brought to America, p. 232-233. And https://collider.com/community-inspector-spacetime/ And http://braindamaged.fr/20/11/2012/web-serie-zone-inspector-spacetime/ And https://geeksofdoom.com/2014/03/12/inspector-spacetimes-untitled-web-series-needs-help-make-inspector-chronicles-movie And so on. No further comments. Still inviting the nominator to withdraw. -Mushy Yank. 12:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Why is Geeks of Doom reliable? And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion. The Collider source talks about it at the very end with nothing beyond "this cool thing happened and there was no season 2" Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Did you open the books? Read the papers? Check other existing sources? -Mushy Yank. 22:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

"And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion."=No, most of the sources I mention talk about the web series which you took for deletion, and some are "particurly in depth." So your concern that "Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV" seems totally addressed (if a page can "fail" an essay, btw). https://www.vulture.com/2012/09/not-inspector-spacetime.html (limited) https://comicbook.com/comicbook/news/communitys-inspector-spacetime-launches-his-own-untitled-webseries/ (for the history of the production) and so on. https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-inspector-chronicles-is-the-doctor-who-spoof-movie-sorta-spun-off-from-community-e844667fd8e7/ It meets the general requirements for notability even if it's only with the dedicated article and 2 of the books. Feel free to add the sources you like best to the page. Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Erratum: in my first reply to myself I linked twice the same paper; the second paper I intended to link was: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444814558907 -Mushy Yank. 12:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
(noting for anyone who can't view the article through TWL) This is another article by the same author, Paul Booth. Per WP:GNG, a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source. It's also a pretty brief mention, with only one paragraph about it in a much larger paper about a broader topic. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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2010 Duke University faux sex thesis controversy

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I am nominating this article because I do not believe it meets notability guidelines.

Note that this article was previously deleted and then undeleted.

WP:EVENT - this content has no enduring historical significance. This does not have widespread national or international impact. This is arguably routine in the sense of shock news/water cooler stories/viral phenomena.
There are no lasting effects
The geographical scope is limited to Duke
The duration of coverage is limited to 2010 with one more article a few months later
There is one NYTimes article surveying the person in question but the focus is on the aftermath rather than the event in question or even the controversy in question
WP:NOTNEWS -
Misplaced Pages considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion and Misplaced Pages is not written in news style."
In the original AFD, the author wrote

This is not an article about the faux thesis, it's an article about the controversy that the faux thesis generated.

However, after 10 years, I think it is fair to say that one of the responses to that is quite accurate

But most of the coverage was not commentary on the controversy (and "media discussion over routine privacy breaches" is also very routine and needs a fairly high standard to pass WP:NOT#NEWS. For example, is there evidence that any reliable sources have assessed this controversy within the field of "controversies over privacy" and concluding this is a significant one?). As a controversy, is this seen or will this be seen as a controversy of "enduring notability" (WP:NOT) that changed, shaped or defined the debate on privacy compared to a thousand other private communications that someone's friend posted to the world and went viral?

There are also WP:BLP considerations but I am more reluctant to specifically cite policy because this is not a biographical article. I invite others to do so if they are more confident on the matter. Transcendence (talk) 05:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Per nom, there's no indication there is lasting interest in this event, even at Duke. Campus controversies like this seem somewhat common at this point. I don't think it's even worth a mention at History of Duke University#Recent history: 1993–present, and it also seems undue weight to list at even Template:Duke University. Reywas92 18:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: the matter is properly cited to multiple reliable sources, including indeed The New York Times, which has covered the matter more than once actually: the one in the article is from 2018, eight years after the 'thesis' went viral, so the concern about a brief news event is incorrect. The matter has been covered by numerous other newspapers and news sites so its notability is not in doubt. ~~I'll add~~I have added a few more sources and descriptions of reactions by The Daily Telegraph and The New York Times (including in later years) for good measure, but the article is already correctly sourced and summarizes the story clearly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Multiple reliable sources confirms this event's lasting notability. Add doi:10.1177/1045159514558412 and this to the list of sources. Esculenta (talk) 13:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Added both of those, and came across yet more useful sources when I did so. One other point: the 2010 AfD only had sources from that year, so it was actually too early to tell if the matter had a wider effect. We now have five substantial sources from later years, in multiple disciplines, so we know that it did. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Multiple reliable sources (and artistic responses) confirm notability. However, I agree with "deletes" it probably does not belong prominently in Duke University templates any longer: the coverage and artistic response does not seem to emphasize this as a notable event for Duke specifically but rather for the Internet and contemporary sexual patterns in general, as an epitome. It may make more sense to attach this page to general Internet events or sexuality templates rather than to the Duke template. RowanElder (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Agree with user above who pointed out the event got reliable news coverage eight years after it happened, making it notable. XwycP3 (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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I'd have thought this was a SNOW KEEP by now, as we have a) transformed the article with many new sources b) demonstrated multi-year notability and c) different editors have advanced sound reasons for keeping the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep: I disagree with the nom's WP:EVENT assertion - reliable sources were citing this faux thesis years after its publication. Also, as Chiswick Chap has noted, its notability is not in doubt.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete. Per Reywas92's reasoning. desmay (talk) 20:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep: Aside from the possible BLP considerations (i see the person has apparently maintained a private life since and cannot be found via this article), alas this is plainly a notable event. Many news articles are still available on the event and I believe Misplaced Pages's rules mean we cover controversial events better on average.--Milowent • 21:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Apify

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Appears to be entirely promotional and lacks WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 06:09, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Updated the article to include Czech and Slovak sources, in which the company has sustained coverage going back to 2017. Below are examples, which show the company to be notable in the Central European startup and business community. Additionally, a search of Stack Overflow's site shows many pages of developer discussion about Apify, indicating its widespread use.

https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/finance/nakupovani/black-friday-skutecne-slevy-porovnani/r~ab190004d43d11e7984d0cc47ab5f122/

https://cc.cz/apify-nepresvedcilo-investory-miliardove-ambice-tak-vystridalo-propousteni-krizi-ale-nakonec-prezilo/

https://www.hrot24.cz/clanek/do-apify-priteklo-70-milionu-korun-prazsky-startup-se-chce-stat-dalsim-ceskym-jednorozcem-HVEEd

https://fontech.startitup.sk/umela-inteligencia-regulacia-slovensko-pre-a-proti/

https://www.zive.cz/clanky/internet-patri-botum-ne-lidem-cesti-apify-je-prodavaji-jako-aplikace-podcast-zive/sc-3-a-229824/default.aspx

https://cc.cz/tezi-data-z-webu-a-je-v-zisku-datove-apify-ma-pres-200-tisic-uzivatelu-ted-nabira-70-milionu/

https://www.lupa.cz/aktuality/cesti-scraperi-webovych-dat-apify-ziskali-od-j-t-a-fryce-desitky-milionu-na-dalsi-expanzi/

https://www.cfoworld.cz/clanky/cfo-pod-lupou-dusan-antos-apify/

https://www.e15.cz/byznys/cesky-startup-dodal-evropske-komisi-program-ktery-hlida-e-shopy-s-falesnymi-slevami-1413801

https://www.businessinfo.cz/clanky/necista-hra-se-zakazniky/

https://www.cnews.cz/clanky/cerny-patek-2017-alza-czc-mall-falesne-slevy/

https://www.trend.sk/trend-archiv/hlavne-to-nepokazit-startupy-apify-yieldigo-memsource-to-maju-nasliapnute-elitneho-klubu

https://cc.cz/startupawards2024/apify/

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Delete – The subject does not have enough news coverage.

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Keep – The subject has 13 news articles that meet the notability criteria of being significant, independent, reliable and secondary. The fact that many of them are in Czech or Slovak doesn't meet they don't meet the criteria, and a search of developer forums shows the software is widely used among English speakers in any case. ‪Ignatiusjreillythefirst‬ (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ignatiusjreillythefirst (talk • contribs) 00:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep the article contains a promotional section but has reliable sources. The page would benefit from cleanup to improve its structure and neutrality. --RodrigoIPacce (talk) 19:14, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep: The article has reliable sources and passes WP:COMPANY. XwycP3 (talk) 21:06, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep: The article passes WP:SUSTAINED notability because it has 24 references going back to 2017. Sources are reliable and independent of the subject. Additionally, another editor removed the section listing the company's products, which should take care of the WP:PROMOTION concern. Schnookums123 (talk) 18:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Licious

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Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep - with the caveat that most Indian media nowadays is spoiled (pun intended), the coverage shows this is a unicorn company. Bearian (talk) 03:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete - changed from a Keep upon second look. Created by a new editor who has splashed up articles of dubious notability. Bearian (talk) 02:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete Insufficient coverage by independent, reliable secondary sources to pass WP:GNG and WP:NCORP.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:00, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Reelmonk

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Delete - defunct streaming platform; not a unicorn; usual caveats for Indian media. This is really only of use for historical purposes. Bearian (talk) 03:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Vabbing

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Two years marked for notability. Flash-in-the-pan? Qwirkle (talk) 06:39, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep. Article needs expansion but it has received a good range of coverage ( ) and even been the subject of a systematic review (empty, with no evidence to support it). Astaire (talk) 19:08, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: Still getting coverage in 2024 , showing an extended period of critical notice. This as well .... But why, seriously, why? Oaktree b (talk) 00:51, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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Mwijaku

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After observing the article being too promotional (still is), I moved the it back to draft space hoping for improvement that would follow a regular review at AFC but the original editor moved it back direct to the mainspace also nowhere in the references show subject's (important claims) like date of birth or number of children they have, where did the editor get them? That's WP: PROMOTIONAL, WP:COIEDIT and tries to use wikipedia as WP:SOAPBOX.

No any notable work listed show subject's importance, just a bunch of gossip blogs. Just a reminder, Misplaced Pages isn't a gossip blog/newspaper WP:NOTGOSSIP.

Refs: Only The Citizen is a reliable source, the rest are blogs that cannot be trusted on WP:BLP. ANU 01:26, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete - No indication of notability. --John B123 (talk) 20:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

As the editor of this article, I have made improvements by adding additional information from sources that I believe are credible. Please review it to see if it is satisfactory and help me by correcting any mistakes. 3L3V8D (talk) 20:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

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