Misplaced Pages

Talk:Bandy: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 23:59, 9 January 2025 editOve Raul (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users628 edits Bandy and field hockey← Previous edit Latest revision as of 00:06, 10 January 2025 edit undoOve Raul (talk | contribs)Extended confirmed users628 edits Bandy and field hockey 
Line 90: Line 90:


::::::In Norway, ] is the organisation ruling both bandy and field hockey. ] (]) 23:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC) ::::::In Norway, ] is the organisation ruling both bandy and field hockey. ] (]) 23:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

::::::In the Soviet Union, bandy and field hockey were both governed by the ]. ] (]) 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)


== Italy == == Italy ==

Latest revision as of 00:06, 10 January 2025

Formation (bandy) was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 12 November 2021 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Bandy. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Bandy article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.
Article policies
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
Archives: Index, 1, 2Auto-archiving period: 6 months 
This  level-5 vital article is rated C-class on Misplaced Pages's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to multiple WikiProjects.
WikiProject iconSports
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Sports, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of sport-related topics on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SportsWikipedia:WikiProject SportsTemplate:WikiProject Sportssports
To-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
WikiProject iconWinter sports (inactive)
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Winter sports, a project which is currently considered to be inactive.Winter sportsWikipedia:WikiProject Winter sportsTemplate:WikiProject Winter sportsWinter sports
WikiProject iconRussia: Sports & games / Demographics & ethnography Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Russia, a WikiProject dedicated to coverage of Russia on Misplaced Pages.
To participate: Feel free to edit the article attached to this page, join up at the project page, or contribute to the project discussion.RussiaWikipedia:WikiProject RussiaTemplate:WikiProject RussiaRussia
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the sports and games in Russia task force.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the demographics and ethnography of Russia task force.
WikiProject iconSweden Mid‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Sweden, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Sweden-related articles on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SwedenWikipedia:WikiProject SwedenTemplate:WikiProject SwedenSweden
MidThis article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconFinland Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Finland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Finland on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.FinlandWikipedia:WikiProject FinlandTemplate:WikiProject FinlandFinlandWikiProject icon
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconNorway
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Norway, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Norway on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.NorwayWikipedia:WikiProject NorwayTemplate:WikiProject NorwayNorway
???This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconCentral Asia: Kazakhstan Low‑importance
WikiProject iconBandy is part of WikiProject Central Asia, a project to improve all Central Asia-related articles. This includes but is not limited to Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Mongolia, Tajikistan, Tibet, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Xinjiang and Central Asian portions of Iran, Pakistan and Russia, region-specific topics, and anything else related to Central Asia. If you would like to help improve this and other Central Asia-related articles, please join the project. All interested editors are welcome.Central AsiaWikipedia:WikiProject Central AsiaTemplate:WikiProject Central AsiaCentral Asia
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by WikiProject Kazakhstan (assessed as Low-importance).
WikiProject iconUnited Kingdom Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Misplaced Pages. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The following references may be useful when improving this article in the future:

Bandy is the fastest team sport

Bandy is considered the fasteat played team sport in the world because the skaters move so swiftly over the ice. I think this fact is more than just a matter of curiosity and ought to be written out in the article, preferrably in the beginning where the sport is described. 2A00:801:787:6A57:0:0:481C:B011 (talk) 14:33, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

It is a good idea to have this fact in the article, but I suppose it would have to be sourced someway. There are reference literature on the subject of course, but I have none at hand at the moment, here where I am right now. Do you have any yourself? Maybe someone else has some? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bandyman Desire (talkcontribs) 19:09, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Here is a study made on the velocity of bandy players:
What is the speed of a bandy player? What speeds do they reach on the playing surface? As they are playing the games on ice with skates on their feet, I get that they are faster than someone running on grass or something like that, but as a start for this question to be answered, you need to state the speed. What is the average speed for a player on the bandy rink in KM/H? /2A00:801:7A0:A579:0:0:6888:7C04 (talk) 05:49, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
In the study linked in the post just above yours, you can find the answer. It says the ”mean skating velocity extend 16 km/h” and ”...high-velocity skating that in some cases reaches 37 km/h”. You can compare this with long-track speed skaters, who can reach over 55 km/h (”over 35 mph” according to ), but then only have to go along an oval track and not fending off players of an opposing team while doing it. A speed skating skate blade is also longer than the blade of the typical bandy skate, allowing for higher speeds but less sharp turns, while the bandy skate’s blade in turn is longer than the blade on an ice hockey skate. Ove Raul (talk) 22:50, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Using a ball rather than a puck also makes bandy faster than ice hockey. --Green leaves okay (talk) 14:59, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
What I meant to say (maybe that was not clear enough) is that the swiftness of a game in a team sport is not just about the speed of the players but also other things. One example is that a ball is used in bandy and this can be played faster than a puck as in ice hockey for instance. A bandy game can switch from one side of the firld to the other as fast as an ice hockey game and this mskes bandy faster since the playing field is larger. – Green leaves okay (talk) 02:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
The bandy ball is made to move quickly over the ice, but I hadn't really thought about that before, but the ball is of course another part which makes the sport of bandy as fast as it is. It really is a swift game, but still also technical and has its merits as a specator sport - it's not just to and fro, but intricate and interesting. It's fun to watch. Ove Raul (talk) 21:33, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Overview of international competitions

Under the headline "Overview of international competitions" in the article is a table showing the World Championships and the World Cups, but it doesn't show any of the other inernational competitions. How come? Shouldn't the European Cup be there too, for instance, even if it hasn't been played for years? There has also been bandy tournaments in some multi-sport events and they could also be noted there, I think. 2A00:801:787:6A57:0:0:481C:B011 (talk) 14:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

There is no bandy played at the Olympics, is there? So only other competitions.
What multi-sport events have had bandy tournaments as parts of the events?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 15:59, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
The Asian Winter Games has had bandy on its programme at least once. Ove Raul (talk) 13:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
I think you could add the youth world championships. Green leaves okay (talk) 16:36, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry, bad suggestion from me. The youth world cha.pionships are already there in the article. I should hsve checked before writing anything anout it here. – Green leaves okay (talk) 02:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Bandy and field hockey

There are some sections of text in this article about bandy´s relationship to association football (also known as soccer) and its relationship to ice hockey, but it is also related to field hockey. Field hockey is a form of hockey just like bandy is, and bandy and field hockey both have eleven man teams, bent sticks and balls and are played at the approximately same size of field or rink, just like association football too by the way.

There is reason to believe that not only association football with its English roots but also field hockey with its roots in the same country have given much inspiration to bandy and the rules for this game in its early days in the late 19th Century, when many modern sports were developed, while ice hockey on the other hand seems to be somewhat younger as a sport and also has its origin in Canada, not in England, but still there were already a section about bandy and ice hockey. There is reason to elaborate on this, but I cannot really do it myself since I am no expert on sports history in general nor on theses sports in particular. Who would be able to write something about it? Are there some sources you could recommend which could be used to extend the section about this?  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 16:18, 15 March 2024 (UTC)


How rude. How rude. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Droöoooo (talkcontribs) 16:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
There are some texts about the similarity of Bandy and Field Hockey you can find online if you look for it. I don't know if these sources are good enough for an encyclopedic article on the subject, but they are qutie interesting (at least in my opinion):
Do what you want with these links. I don't know how to incorporate their meanings in this Misplaced Pages article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.104.137.42 (talk) 17:39, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Nice. Thank you. I will read these linked articles when I have the time.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 08:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
There is no doubt abour the similarities bwtween bandy and field hockey, but sources are needed. Are the links posted in this discussion credible ? Ove Raul (talk) 13:47, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
While the articles describe that there are similarities between the sports of bandy and field hockey, not much is said about a common origin and the rules are identified as being more close to association football. So the similarities could just as well be coincidental. You could write something in the article about similarities, but that's not really relevant. If there are sources credibly describing a common history of the two sports, this could be something to add to the article, but sources just describing casual talk about perceived visual similarities are not really interesting. GotoGothenburg (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
I think you have a point. Even if bandy and field hockey are both defined as hockey sports, the similarities may very well be considered to lie more in the visual impression to the casual spectator (both have bent sticks and a small ball) than in the rules and nature of the game actually played. I think some national federations may have governed both sports at times, but this does not mean the sports are more related than other sports, while bandy rules on the other hand has a clear historical connection to the laws of the game of association football. If there is to be a section on the similaries between bandy and field hockey in this article, other sources than the ones already listed in this discussion are likely needed.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 10:48, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
In Norway, Norway's Bandy Association is the organisation ruling both bandy and field hockey. Ove Raul (talk) 23:59, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
In the Soviet Union, bandy and field hockey were both governed by the Bandy and Field Hockey Federation of the USSR. Ove Raul (talk) 00:06, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Italy

Italy has become a full member of the Federation of International Bandy, elected as such at the FIB Congress in June this year. Green leaves okay (talk) 11:53, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

This is not yet reflected in the map showing the member countries of the international federation. How can this map be updated? I don't have the technical skill to do it.  ; As we see the human society is liquid, we are all just running with the flow (talk) 10:31, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Categories: