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| *:Also, surely it should be 'employed by' or 'taken on' the expedition 'during' the war, not 'brought to ... of'. ] ] 13:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | *:Also, surely it should be 'employed by' or 'taken on' the expedition 'during' the war, not 'brought to ... of'. ] ] 13:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| *:Pinging nominator {{u|PrimalMustelid}}. ] (]) 18:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | *:Pinging nominator {{u|PrimalMustelid}}. ] (]) 18:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | ||
| :: Sorry, but that is not what the source says. It says (I quote): | |||
| :: ''The number of Pennsylvania wagons that arrived back at Wills Creek has not been definitely established. For the service of their wagons, 30 owners received payment for a period greater than the 51 days, but of these, only 10 were paid for services beyond what appears to be July 20. Only the wagon of William Douglas, out of 146 wagons involved, seems to have survived the campaign intact. Inasmuch as the other owners were reimbursed for loss of their wagons, it is likely that those few that arrived back at Fort Cumberland were so badly damaged as to render them unserviceable, and therefore not worth driving back to eastern Pennsylvania.'' | |||
| :: In short, the writer is talking about the situation ''at the end of the campaign'', where only the one appears to have survived the campaign in serviceable condition, the others being too damaged to be worth retaining. | |||
| :: Please note that I am about to log off so will not be able to respond further today. ] (]) 18:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC) | |||
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- ... that of the 156 Conestoga wagons (pictured) brought to the Braddock Expedition of the French and Indian War, only one remained intact by the campaign's end? That's not what the article seems to say. "Only a few wagons of the Braddock Expedition ultimately remained, and they were returned to their original owners when the vehicles arrived at Wills Creek in Pennsylvania." and "In total, 156 wagons are thought to have been employed for the disastrous Braddock Expedition, the only wagon to survive intact being that of William Douglas." meaning that only one wagon survives until now, but multiple survived the expedition (or else they couldn't have been sent back to their owners surely). Fram (talk) 09:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, surely it should be 'employed by' or 'taken on' the expedition 'during' the war, not 'brought to ... of'. Modest Genius 13:17, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging nominator PrimalMustelid. SL93 (talk) 18:03, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, but that is not what the source says. It says (I quote):
- The number of Pennsylvania wagons that arrived back at Wills Creek has not been definitely established. For the service of their wagons, 30 owners received payment for a period greater than the 51 days, but of these, only 10 were paid for services beyond what appears to be July 20. Only the wagon of William Douglas, out of 146 wagons involved, seems to have survived the campaign intact. Inasmuch as the other owners were reimbursed for loss of their wagons, it is likely that those few that arrived back at Fort Cumberland were so badly damaged as to render them unserviceable, and therefore not worth driving back to eastern Pennsylvania.
- In short, the writer is talking about the situation at the end of the campaign, where only the one appears to have survived the campaign in serviceable condition, the others being too damaged to be worth retaining.
- Please note that I am about to log off so will not be able to respond further today. Gatoclass (talk) 18:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
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